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Posted: 2003-07-02 07:30am
by Crazy_Vasey
That cannot be legal. Even children have SOME rights, surely?

Posted: 2003-07-02 08:36am
by Tosho
:cry: :cry: This is sick, horrible, monsterous these people need to die!!!!!!!!!!!:evil: :cry: :evil: :cry:

Posted: 2003-07-02 08:42am
by InnerBrat
Crazy_Vasey wrote:That cannot be legal. Even children have SOME rights, surely?
Well, apparently, as it's happening in another country, it's fine...

...but I don't think forceably abducting your kid in the US is...

Posted: 2003-07-02 09:43am
by Xenophobe3691
Ah, I've heard of this. A friend I met on the March of the Living went here...

Posted: 2003-07-02 09:44am
by JodoForce
This reads like the Cultural Revolution (Revulsion) :shock:

Posted: 2003-07-02 09:58am
by Crazy_Vasey
innerbrat wrote:
Crazy_Vasey wrote:That cannot be legal. Even children have SOME rights, surely?
Well, apparently, as it's happening in another country, it's fine...

...but I don't think forceably abducting your kid in the US is...
Well no-one seems to be getting in legal trouble over it. It said in the article they might try and target the UK next, wonder how it'll go here...

Posted: 2003-07-02 10:04am
by Spyder
Maybe this is the height of wishful thinking, but is there anything we can do about this?

Maybe publicise this somehow?

Posted: 2003-07-02 10:22am
by InnerBrat

Posted: 2003-07-02 10:27am
by Spyder
Hmmm...

Signup page

Any ideas?

Posted: 2003-07-02 10:44am
by InnerBrat

Posted: 2003-07-02 11:09am
by Hethrir
That is amazingly sick! It's inhumane to treat people like that, no matter what they've done.

Posted: 2003-07-02 11:13am
by Yuri Prime
Edi wrote::shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Words fail...
Really, I've rarely felt an urge to actually really kill someone, but I'd be completely okay with burying that Jay Kay fucker tied up and facedown in an anthill.

Edi
I had in mind dropping them from helicopters in burning outhouses...

Posted: 2003-07-02 11:34am
by HemlockGrey
That is unspeakably disgusting.

Posted: 2003-07-02 11:36am
by Yuri Prime
HemlockGrey wrote:That is unspeakably disgusting.
That's the idea.

Posted: 2003-07-02 12:05pm
by Baron Mordo
You are walked to a classroom to watch an 'EG' - a 30-minute video intended to promote 'emotional growth' - on a theme such as why you shouldn't smoke.
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Posted: 2003-07-02 02:40pm
by Jadeite
I can honestly say I would shoot any one of those staff members without a second thought.

Posted: 2003-07-02 02:48pm
by EmperorMing
Need to shut this place down...Pronto!!

The fact that it is outside the US removes a lot of obstacles for them to operate.

Posted: 2003-07-02 06:31pm
by Soontir C'boath
From First article wrote:Rule-breaking is classified into categories of offence. A 'Cat 1' offence, ie rolling your eyes, is consequenced by a modest loss of points. A 'Cat 3' offence, eg swearing, costs a significant number, and may drop the student's score beneath their current level's threshold, thus demoting them and removing privileges.
Man even rolling the damn eyes....those fuckers...
Another one wrote:Why would students want to stand up and share, or give this kind of feedback? Scott Burkett, a student who left two years ago, explains: 'You can only move forward in the programme if you share intimate details of your life. If you don't share, you're not "working the programme", and they'll take away your points. In a meeting, your rep will suddenly pick on you and say, "Right, I want to hear something private, right now. Come on. Or do you want to go to OP?" And I'm going through this inventory in my head real fast, thinking what will hurt least to say? Because you tell her secrets and then she uses them against you later. Like, say a guy mentions problems with his girlfriend, a month later she'll have him up, and she's saying, "You don't think she's waiting, do you?" She's laughing at you behind your back. "How many of your friends do you think she's sleeping with right now?" So I start telling her something, and she just says, "I'm not listening to that, that's not deep," and she calls for the guard to take me to OP. And I've got until he gets in the room to give her something better, or he's taking me.'
ARRRGGGGGG Now that's really a breaking point right there. There's no justification for it!!!! KILL!!!

Cyaround,
Jason

Posted: 2003-07-02 07:06pm
by El Moose Monstero
And the reason this treatment works? Is because the kids are so terrified that their parents will send them back there, that they wont step out of line. Last time I checked, there were similar policies with a certain moustachi'o'd Austrian nutball...

Posted: 2003-07-02 07:10pm
by Sea Skimmer
Crazy_Vasey wrote:That cannot be legal. Even children have SOME rights, surely?
Courts have ruled that minor's in the US are not entitled to the same rights as adults several times, so don’t count on it.

Posted: 2003-07-02 07:20pm
by Traceroute
Since when does good behavior mean your a well-adjusted person?

Cart before the horse ...

Posted: 2003-07-02 07:22pm
by Howedar
However, we do know that children have the right to not be physically and mentally abused. Parents can be sent to jail for that, and by extension, so could the people in this camp.

Posted: 2003-07-02 07:34pm
by HemlockGrey
Certainly kidnapping children and flying them out to shit like this has got to violate some law or ordinance or something. Something you can send in the Rangers for.

Posted: 2003-07-02 07:42pm
by LT.Hit-Man
I am beyond enraged.
Later.

Posted: 2003-07-02 10:03pm
by Iceberg
Howedar wrote:However, we do know that children have the right to not be physically and mentally abused. Parents can be sent to jail for that, and by extension, so could the people in this camp.
Kidnapping is a felony.
Kidnapping across state lines is a FEDERAL felony.

End of story.