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Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 04:36pm
by SCRawl
Maybe try to hand Wallace the win as Nixon.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 05:13pm
by Purple
SCRawl wrote:Maybe try to hand Wallace the win as Nixon.
That's brilliant! I'll go and do that right away.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 05:39pm
by Elheru Aran
Well I tried a Bryan vs. McKinley campaign. I think I won, but the damn thing locked up before it went past 10% results. Oh well.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 06:18pm
by The Romulan Republic
Darth Nostril wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:Someone posted a link to this on another forum I post on.

http://www.americanhistoryusa.com/campaign-trail/

I ran as Obama in 2012. I ran a good Left wing campaign. I got crushed. :cry:

I find the choices for the questions rather restrictive, but I guess that's inevitable.

Can't decide weather to play as a liberal Romney next for laughs or try again as Obama.
I ran as a brutally honest left wing Obama.
Told Arizona to fuck off, no fence or wall; defended AFA, it would reduce everyone's healthcare costs and pointing out that Romney was out of touch & spent more maintaining a horse than the average hard working American made in a year.

I won 308 to 230, got Florida, Pennsylvania and Virginia, lost Ohio by 0.8%.
How?

I just can't win as Obama.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 10:03pm
by Shinn Langley Soryu
You do know that the site saves all your game results, right?

Obama/Clinton, 272-266-0-0 (victory)
Humphrey/Connally, 310-182-45 (victory)

If the game lets you play as George Wallace in the 1968 campaign, why not let you play as Gary Johnson or Jill Stein in the 2012 campaign, if only for shits and giggles?

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 10:17pm
by The Romulan Republic
You managed to win without Ohio, Florida, or Virginia. I'm impressed.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 10:22pm
by AniThyng
If this game http://www.americanhistoryusa.com/campa ... game/15474 had came to pass in the real world, I wonder what would have happened...

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 11:05pm
by The Romulan Republic
How do you link to a saved game?

Edits: Never mind. I think I figured it out.

Me as McKinley vs Bryan and Palmer:

http://www.americanhistoryusa.com/campa ... game/16064

I actually lost the popular vote but won by a healthy margin in the electoral college.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 11:12pm
by Jub
I ran a Humphrey/Connally ticket on normal and managed to get a pretty interesting result.

http://www.americanhistoryusa.com/campa ... game/16063
Results wrote:Wow! No candidate achieved a majority in the electoral college.

For the first time since 1824, the election will be thrown to the House of Representatives. Fortunately for you the Democrats have won a majority of the nation's Congressional delegations.

Unfortunately, you also have to deal with George Wallace. He will not allow the Southern states to support any candidate who advocates desegregation. As a lifelong Civil Rights advocate, this rules you out.

Your best chance, sadly, is to try to broker a deal with Nixon or with other moderate Republicans. The alternative is for you to sit and watch as Wallace and Nixon strike a bargain amongst themselves.

You are the likely winner, but who knows where this all ends?
I lost Ohio by ~16,000 votes, but even that wouldn't have given me the majority; talk about your tight races. Could you imagine if this had been the result broadcast November 5, 1968?

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 11:51pm
by AniThyng
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but didn't Nixon have the majority by 2 votes in your results

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-10 11:56pm
by Jub
AniThyng wrote:Maybe I'm misunderstanding but didn't Nixon have the majority by 2 votes in your results
He had 2 more votes, but he didn't have the 268 (269?) votes needed to form a government with over 50% of the electoral college votes. Basically nobody had enough votes to form a government so you'd have to pick your poison in who's votes you're going to go after and what changes to your platform you have to make to secure them.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-11 12:17am
by Jub
Double post.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-11 06:39am
by Purple
I wonder what would have happened if Wallace had made it historically.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-11 10:21am
by Civil War Man
Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:If the game lets you play as George Wallace in the 1968 campaign, why not let you play as Gary Johnson or Jill Stein in the 2012 campaign, if only for shits and giggles?
He was the last third party candidate to win any electoral votes, and had the potential to win enough of them to affect the outcome of the election. Playing as Johnson or Stein would mostly just result in the same electoral map as the actual election since they really didn't have the support to swing any of the states in any meaningful way. There really isn't anything to accomplish playing as them other than "can you build up enough support to swing a state from Obama to Romney or vice versa?" The candidates you can play as in the elections have defined victory conditions. Either win the election outright for most or win enough states to prevent an electoral vote majority for Wallace.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-11 10:30am
by The Romulan Republic
You know, I really wish this game had an 1860 and/or 1864 mode. I'd love to play as Lincoln.

For that matter, I'd like to be able to reply 2000 and see if I can best Bush.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-11 12:09pm
by Elheru Aran
Purple wrote:I wonder what would have happened if Wallace had made it historically.
A pile of conservative fucktardness, is what would've happened. As a third-party candidate he never really had a major chance; his strategy was mainly to try and game the system, force an electoral dead-lock which would have to be resolved in the House of Representatives and hopefully garner him enough votes that way to win. Fortunately his backward attitudes towards segregation, vocal disdain of liberal policies and running mate of St. Curtis Lemay pretty much shot his chances to hell given time. He knew how to stir up the rednecks and Southern conservatives, and it's notable that he did manage to carry the Deep South in the election.

Politically he was somewhat of a strange mix-- old-style conservative Southern Democrat, pro segregation and outspoken racist, but supportive of organized labor, and isolationist. He wanted to get the US out of Vietnam and less involved in NATO and such. All told he was one of the last real Southern Democrats of the post-Civil War, pre-Civil Rights era.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-11 10:29pm
by SCRawl
I've tried this game twice now, and both times it's barfed right at the end. Seems kind of pointless to try again.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-11 10:39pm
by The Romulan Republic
It works fine for me. I think the biggest problem I've had with it was it freezing when I clicked to see the final results. I found that if I just click okay instead it'll show me the final results anyway and works fine.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-11 11:47pm
by Thanas
Liberal ideas live.
I went full out with a defence of liberal ideas (though avoided slagging Eisenhower), pressed Nixon on debate and in general acted like I would in reality.
Humphrey/Kennedy btw.





Also, it is real easy to beat Obama. First try and ended up with a 299 to 239 majority by simply not sounding like a nutjob.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-12 03:26pm
by Purple
Elheru Aran wrote:
Purple wrote:I wonder what would have happened if Wallace had made it historically.
A pile of conservative fucktardness, is what would've happened. As a third-party candidate he never really had a major chance; his strategy was mainly to try and game the system, force an electoral dead-lock which would have to be resolved in the House of Representatives and hopefully garner him enough votes that way to win. Fortunately his backward attitudes towards segregation, vocal disdain of liberal policies and running mate of St. Curtis Lemay pretty much shot his chances to hell given time. He knew how to stir up the rednecks and Southern conservatives, and it's notable that he did manage to carry the Deep South in the election.

Politically he was somewhat of a strange mix-- old-style conservative Southern Democrat, pro segregation and outspoken racist, but supportive of organized labor, and isolationist. He wanted to get the US out of Vietnam and less involved in NATO and such. All told he was one of the last real Southern Democrats of the post-Civil War, pre-Civil Rights era.
Do you think that if he had made it he could have pushed desegregation back or was that a lost battle?

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-12 08:59pm
by Elheru Aran
Purple wrote: Do you think that if he had made it he could have pushed desegregation back or was that a lost battle?
While he would probably have made an effort towards that end, I doubt he would have achieved much in the long run given that the Supreme Court was set against it for the most part. He would have absolutely hindered it for a long time though and it's quite possible that race relations would be in a far messier state. Economically, he might have managed to actually improve things if organized labor didn't turn into the second coming of the Mafia or something. Apart from that, he most likely would not have been all that different from how, say, Barry Goldwater or Richard Nixon turned out.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-13 09:43am
by Purple
So basically there was no chance of restoring segregation? Thanks. That's what I needed to know.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-14 07:40pm
by The Romulan Republic
I got no majority in the electoral college while playing as Humphrey with Fred Harris as my running mate.

www.americanhistoryusa.com/campaign-trail/game/16939

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-16 02:07pm
by Lolpah
I can't get the game to work. I get to the year selection but then the game won't continue despite me clicking "continue" and when I change the year the description doesn't change.

Re: The Campaign Trail (fun little online game).

Posted: 2014-12-16 09:33pm
by The Romulan Republic
This is embarrassing.

www.americanhistoryusa.com/campaign-trail/game/17333

I'm not sure how it happened.