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Norade wrote:So soccer players are pussies then? Which is harder, jogging a few kilometers and then standing around waiting for a pass, or skating so hard that you're done after a shift that might be less than a minute, how about running flatout and then getting crushed by a massive linebacker? Do soccer players block seventy mile an hour plus pucks of vulcanized rubber? Do they get tackled so hard they can get broken necks? I mean, fuck, aside from baseball they play the one of the pansies major sports around. Even basketball has a higher risk of injury than soccer does.

Yet these precious little twats can't jog a few extra minutes to decide a game.
Norade, shut the heck up. I played both football and soccer myself and yes, soccer was on average more exhausting simply due to a thing called the timeout not existing in soccer.

And lol at the pansy ass comment. You obviously have not seen much of European soccer, or any soccer at all.

Just take your ignorance and go stand in a corner.
I've seen a fair bit of soccer, I just find it less interesting than more intense sports such as hockey, football, I mean even baseball has more action in a given span of time that a bunch of guys firing a ball high and wide over the gaping net. They may player longer stretches at a time, but that doesn't mean they play harder minutes than other sports. They don't play through the same things people in other sports grin and bear on a daily basis. What's going to happen at worst in soccer, you get a cleat in the shin? Big fucking deal compared to a skate slicing your calf open.
thejester wrote:Dude are you fucking retarded? I love hockey but the reality is the fact they're gassed after three minutes shifts demonstrably shows they don't have the same aerobic capacity as soccer players. That's not a slight on them, it's just a reflection of the fact they play on a small playing where rotations are easy and bulk is more important than endurance. Even gun players are lucky to play more than what, 20 min TOI a game? They might got flat out for that time but they're still only going flat out for TWENTY MINUTES, less than a quarter of the time most football players are on the field.
Do soccer players sprint for that long on average? Nope, they jog, stand a bit, jog, stand some more, and maybe sprint a little then go back to standing and jogging lightly again. Besides, how many soccer players are moving a huge six foot at least over 200 pound body around at speeds sprinters would look at and say fuck that. Not to mention that top flight defensemen often play above 30 minutes a game, and much long in overtime. They do this while playing hurt for long stretches as well. How many soccer players play through a shoulder that needs surgery for 40+ games?
Big Phil wrote:You should pay some attention to what professional athletes themselves say about other sports. Hockey players don't spend their time calling soccer players pussies. Soccer players don't spend their time calling American football players fatties. Football players don't rip on tennis players for not being able to take a hit from a 300 lb. lineman.

If you had any fucking sense whatsoever you'd understand that the skills and physical gifts required to be good at each sport are different. American football and hockey players need to be bigger and stronger than soccer players. Basketball players need to be tall and quick, but don't need to run a 4.4 40 yard dash. Tennis players don't need to weight 230 lbs. None of these athletes are pussies... except in the minds of short-dick pussies like you.

Maybe you'll decide to call John McEnroe a pussy... after all, he couldn't take a body check from even Wayne Gretzky. Or maybe sumo wrestlers are pussies because they can't run for two hours without dying.
They all take fitness and skill, but saying that soccer games can't last into overtime because the players can't take it is either BS or shows that they aren't willing to really push for the sport they play. I'm sure that if you asked them to trade spots that many hockey players would do better at soccer, a game hockey players play to warm up, would do better than soccer players would at hockey.

John McEnroe was also a drug using cheat who should have been tested and tossed from more than a few tournies he won. I'd say cheating alone makes him a bitch.
xthetenth wrote:Skating is very different from jogging or running. The closest equivalent I can think of is less biking and more doing squats as aerobic exercise. I've played hockey and football (but not O
our whacked out 'football'), and hockey, and they're just very different beasts and both utterly brutal for endurance. Football has tons of running, but most is at least aerobic. Hockey is sprinting all out with few short breaks until your muscles can't push hard enough. You'd better believe you have to be in great muscular and aerobic shape to keep that up a whole game. Short version is that yeah they're done in a minute and a half or so, but it's a much harder activity than even sprinting for that long.
People also seem to ignore that hockey players jog a fuck ton as well, ever heard of the grouse grind that the Canucks run their players through a few times a year? Yeah, they do that in roughly 45 minutes so they can hang with soccer players that way.
Big Phil wrote:What is your point? Are you agreeing that hockey is different from soccer, or are you trying to argue that soccer players are pussies because they alternate between walking, sprinting and jogging for 90 minutes instead of sprinting for 2-3 minutes and then resting?
Hockey players can jog 45 minutes up a mountain, can a soccer player skate very fast for even a few seconds?
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I have to say, I was actually rooting for both teams. I love knowing that both teams are equally capable and worthy of getting a hard fought victory.

Good for Japan! They've needed some good news. And good for the US as well. A victory would have been awesome, but there's no shame in a hard fought loss to a team that you made earn the win.
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Norade, why don't you just post a picture of your 2" dick and be done with it.
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Thanas wrote:Norade, quit shitting up every thread you touch.
I'm arguing that either soccer players are pussies for not playing in OT, or that the people claiming they couldn't do OT are full of shit. You haven't done shit to back up your claim either Thanas, anecdotes aren't evidence of how tough something is.
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Big Phil wrote:Norade, why don't you just post a picture of your 2" dick and be done with it.
Why don't you post some actual evidence that soccer is tougher than other sports or that they can't play overtime because they need a nap after each match.
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Big Phil wrote:What is your point? Are you agreeing that hockey is different from soccer, or are you trying to argue that soccer players are pussies because they alternate between walking, sprinting and jogging for 90 minutes instead of sprinting for 2-3 minutes and then resting?
I'm arguing that hockey players aren't in anything other that great aerobic shape. I didn't think I'd have to prune the quote and I'm on my phone but here's what I really responded to:
I love hockey but the reality is the fact they're gassed after three minutes shifts demonstrably shows they don't have the same aerobic capacity as soccer players.
I'm arguing that hockey is a very taxing sport so it's a valid comparison to football, that's it, I haven't come up with a real better alternative for the current way even if I'm not too fond of it. But whatever, the maybe interesting discussion of what could be done differently is well and truly overshadowed anyway.
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Norade wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Norade, why don't you just post a picture of your 2" dick and be done with it.
Why don't you post some actual evidence that soccer is tougher than other sports or that they can't play overtime because they need a nap after each match.
Nah... I'd rather you just show us all that your dick is tiny. You're at that stage of thinking, especially with your "Canadian high school soccer = professional soccer" mentality.
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Thanas wrote:Norade, quit shitting up every thread you touch.
I'm arguing that either soccer players are pussies for not playing in OT, or that the people claiming they couldn't do OT are full of shit. You haven't done shit to back up your claim either Thanas, anecdotes aren't evidence of how tough something is.

Ok, little boy, try this one for size: My evidence is the last world cup.
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thejester wrote:Dude are you fucking retarded? I love hockey but the reality is the fact they're gassed after three minutes shifts demonstrably shows they don't have the same aerobic capacity as soccer players. That's not a slight on them, it's just a reflection of the fact they play on a small playing where rotations are easy and bulk is more important than endurance. Even gun players are lucky to play more than what, 20 min TOI a game? They might got flat out for that time but they're still only going flat out for TWENTY MINUTES, less than a quarter of the time most football players are on the field.
This is actually demonstrably untrue, there have been a number of studies done, unless ESPN was lying to promote a sport they don't cover, that show hockey players actually do have aerobic fitness on average that's slightly higher than that of any other sport. It's not a big difference, but it is there. Personally I have a lot of respect for all professional athletes physical abilities, they're all in rediculous shape.
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Big Phil wrote:What is your point? Are you agreeing that hockey is different from soccer, or are you trying to argue that soccer players are pussies because they alternate between walking, sprinting and jogging for 90 minutes instead of sprinting for 2-3 minutes and then resting?
I'm arguing that hockey players aren't in anything other that great aerobic shape.
I'm not sure anyone was arguing otherwise. I just can't tell if you're joining with Short Dicks's My Sport is Better Than Your Sport stupidity.
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Big Phil wrote:Nah... I'd rather you just show us all that your dick is tiny. You're at that stage of thinking, especially with your "Canadian high school soccer = professional soccer" mentality.
The dick crack jokes are juvenile. You should be able to do better.

I played hockey in high school asshole. I was in track before that, and in soccer at a much younger age. I can still watch soccer as easily as you can though and it doesn't take a genius to see that they stand around or jog lightly much more than they sprint.
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Thanas wrote:Norade, quit shitting up every thread you touch.
I'm arguing that either soccer players are pussies for not playing in OT, or that the people claiming they couldn't do OT are full of shit. You haven't done shit to back up your claim either Thanas, anecdotes aren't evidence of how tough something is.
Ok, little boy, try this one for size: My evidence is the last world cup.
What about it, besides the god awful location and droning noise was so special? Who played through it with herniated discs, broken bones, and separated shoulders? How many came back early from eye surgery to play in important games? Face it, soccer players are weaker and in worse shape than hockey players, don't play through as much pain, and should be able to gut out overtime.
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Norade wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Nah... I'd rather you just show us all that your dick is tiny. You're at that stage of thinking, especially with your "Canadian high school soccer = professional soccer" mentality.
The dick crack jokes are juvenile. You should be able to do better.

I played hockey in high school asshole. I was in track before that, and in soccer at a much younger age. I can still watch soccer as easily as you can though and it doesn't take a genius to see that they stand around or jog lightly much more than they sprint.
Soccer is much more physical than you give it credit for.
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Norade wrote:I mean even baseball has more action
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You are a fucking tool if you think any span of baseball has more action going on than a soccer game.

Even a TRIPLE PLAY is only one guy hitting then running, while another guys gets the ball then trows it to two more guys that are just standing there. (OOOOHHH they moved three feet to the base really fast! ) while two more guys run. OMG!! FOUR GUYS RUNNING AT ONCE!!! OH ACTION PACKED!!!

Fuck dude. Learn the difference between "exciting" and "action".


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Good for Japan. I second Flagg's, surprisingly kind and heartfelt, sentiment that Japan could use a nice moral boost like this.
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Norade wrote:What about it, besides the god awful location and droning noise was so special? Who played through it with herniated discs, broken bones, and separated shoulders? How many came back early from eye surgery to play in important games? Face it, soccer players are weaker and in worse shape than hockey players, don't play through as much pain, and should be able to gut out overtime.

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Block wrote:Soccer is much more physical than you give it credit for.
Hardly, they rarely get hit, don't run flat out for very long, they don't play through injury at the same level. Name one thing they are better or tougher at than a hockey player?

Could you imagine if hockey players floated about on he ice like soccer players do? Or if they had nets at the same ratio of object you need to get in the net to net size? How about if they dove at the same rate? (Though these lats playoffs were bad for that.)
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Norade wrote:I mean even baseball has more action
:lol: :lol: You are a fucking tool if you think any span of baseball has more action going on than a soccer game.

Even a TRIPLE PLAY is only one guy hitting then running, while another guys gets the ball then trows it to two more guys that are just standing there. (OOOOHHH they moved three feet to the base really fast! ) while two more guys run. OMG!! FOUR GUYS RUNNING AT ONCE!!! OH ACTION PACKED!!!

Fuck dude. Learn the difference between "exciting" and "action".

To quote John Kruck: "I'm a Baseball player, not an athlete." :lol: :lol:
I'll give you that one. Baseball is still more watchable than soccer at any rate, hell so is curling for that matter.
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Norade wrote:What about it, besides the god awful location and droning noise was so special? Who played through it with herniated discs, broken bones, and separated shoulders? How many came back early from eye surgery to play in important games? Face it, soccer players are weaker and in worse shape than hockey players, don't play through as much pain, and should be able to gut out overtime.
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So you have no actual argument then? I expect better from you Thanas given how you run the History forum.
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When was it magically decided that the more potential injury, fatigue and pain endured automatically makes for a better sport? Just because a sport is more taxing on the players does not mean it is superior. You'd have to account in a lot of things such as rules, tactics, systems, the individual skills required to good at the sport in question. Sure if you prefer Hockey over Soccer/Football, then well no one here can stop you.

However proclaiming that Football/Soccer is inferior because players don't get hurt as badly, are stressed as far (that's up for debate) or have to catch a puck would be like me, saying that Hockey is for thick minded brutes. I mean, look how stupid they are getting all their injuries in their bone headed sport. If I said that then rightfully I'd get jumped on by many (including you) who'd enjoy the sport and know jack shit about it.

So, are you going to keep up what is either a sport chest beating contest or a flat troll or are you going to just admit that your arguments are just opinion?

PS: Congratulations for Japan. A sporting victory is always nice for a nation that has recently being struck by tragedy.
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Thank you, Bluewolf. Apparently you have more patience than I do.
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Bluewolf wrote:When was it magically decided that the more potential injury, fatigue and pain endured automatically makes for a better sport? Just because a sport is more taxing on the players does not mean it is superior. You'd have to account in a lot of things such as rules, tactics, systems, the individual skills required to good at the sport in question. Sure if you prefer Hockey over Soccer/Football, then well no one here can stop you.

However proclaiming that Football/Soccer is inferior because players don't get hurt as badly, are stressed as far (that's up for debate) or have to catch a puck would be like me, saying that Hockey is for thick minded brutes. I mean, look how stupid they are getting all their injuries in their bone headed sport. If I said that then rightfully I'd get jumped on by many (including you) who'd enjoy the sport and know jack shit about it.

So, are you going to keep up what is either a sport chest beating contest or a flat troll or are you going to just admit that your arguments are just opinion?

PS: Congratulations for Japan. A sporting victory is always nice for a nation struck by tragedy.
Sorry, but by all metrics Hockey is a more physical sport with better athletes. A pro hockey player could do well at soccer, a pro soccer player would fail hard at hockey lacking in size, strength, and ability. The pace and skill level in hockey is higher than soccer, goals involve more than simply hitting the oversized net, and you have to score while fighting through people who are hitting you and trying to do anything they can to stop you getting there.

The one thing soccer has going for it is a larger fan base thanks to having been played longer as well as being played across territories that are former colonies. However being more popular doesn't make it a better sport. The corruption, drama, and general lack of excitement in the sport do however make it a poorer one.
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Thanas wrote:Thank you, Bluewolf. Apparently you have more patience than I do.
He also managed a better argument than you ever did. I mean you're just acting like a typical Euro who likes soccer because he was born watching it and can't give a real reason.
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Sorry, but by all metrics Hockey is a more physical sport with better athletes. A pro hockey player could do well at soccer, a pro soccer player would fail hard at hockey lacking in size, strength, and ability. The pace and skill level in hockey is higher than soccer, goals involve more than simply hitting the oversized net, and you have to score while fighting through people who are hitting you and trying to do anything they can to stop you getting there.
Which is not relevant at all to how good or bad a sport is. Just because a sport requires it's players to have more endurance or be better athletes does not automatically raise it over another. Again you honestly seem to just dislike Football and how it's played. That's fine. This only means that you have an opinion that Hockey is a better sport, not some sort of cold hard facts.

The one thing soccer has going for it is a larger fan base thanks to having been played longer as well as being played across territories that are former colonies. However being more popular doesn't make it a better sport. The corruption, drama, and general lack of excitement in the sport do however make it a poorer one.
So again, in your opinion you prefer Hockey and feel like it's attributes are superior to Football. Again you are fine to carry that opinion but it doesn't make it some sort of truth. Some people do find it exciting, some don't. That's the magic of individuals. The corruption and drama are more due to management than the sport itself. Hockey could also have corruption and drama in it but that wouldn't mean it was something wrong with the game and it's concept. Just how it's managed.

As I've said, If you feel like Hockey is better then that's fine but I am not sure what you hope to achieve by barging into a Football/Soccer thread and saying this like it's truth.

Edit: Something came to mind while I was making some tea. Let's look at Golf. Now a lot of people dislike this sport for various reasons including pace, throwing into question the lack of skill or talent etc etc. Some also bringing up issues around the sport such as it being a rich white mans sport etc. However, some find it exciting, some enjoy the pace, some enjoy watching to see if someone can get a hole in one. Golfers are not exactly unskilled but you probably wouldn't describe them as athletes of iron. Yet, some people have the opinion that it's a more enjoyable sport to watch that say Football/Soccer or Hockey. This is what it largely comes down to in my mind. "I like this sport due to X attributes that appeal to me over another sport which has Y attributes I dislike"/
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Bluewolf wrote:
Sorry, but by all metrics Hockey is a more physical sport with better athletes. A pro hockey player could do well at soccer, a pro soccer player would fail hard at hockey lacking in size, strength, and ability. The pace and skill level in hockey is higher than soccer, goals involve more than simply hitting the oversized net, and you have to score while fighting through people who are hitting you and trying to do anything they can to stop you getting there.
Which is not relevant at all to how good or bad a sport is. Just because a sport requires it's players to have more endurance or be better athletes does not automatically raise it over another. Again you honestly seem to just dislike Football and how it's played. That's fine. This only means that you have an opinion that Hockey is a better sport, not some sort of cold hard facts.
I came in here to start with when people started saying that the poor soccer players couldn't handle overtime. I think having to resort to a shoot out, or free kicks is retarded. Finish the game the way it's actually played.

The one thing soccer has going for it is a larger fan base thanks to having been played longer as well as being played across territories that are former colonies. However being more popular doesn't make it a better sport. The corruption, drama, and general lack of excitement in the sport do however make it a poorer one.
So again, in your opinion you prefer Hockey and feel like it's attributes are superior to Football. Again you are fine to carry that opinion but it doesn't make it some sort of truth. Some people do find it exciting, some don't. That's the magic of individuals. The corruption and drama are more due to management than the sport itself. Hockey could also have corruption and drama in it but that wouldn't mean it was something wrong with the game and it's concept. Just how it's managed.

As I've said, If you feel like Hockey is better then that's fine but I am not sure what you hope to achieve by barging into a Football/Soccer thread and saying this like it's truth.
Management effects the on field or on ice game a large amount. Soccer is demonstrably more corrupt than any hockey league barring perhaps the KHL in Russia. This isn't an opinion thing, this is a fact that reduces the casual enjoyment of the game. many soccer fans themselves complain about this fact and how it ruins the game. The diving is another thing even real fans bitch about. Are you going to deny that diving and corruption aren't more prevalent in soccer?
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I came in here to start with when people started saying that the poor soccer players couldn't handle overtime. I think having to resort to a shoot out, or free kicks is retarded. Finish the game the way it's actually played.
I would note that for certain sporting events such as the main World Cup. If no one has won, the teams do, do overtime. Two smaller mini halves. This is often a point of excitement as the players are getting worn down and this allows for mistakes that not only allow for a chance of scoring. but for chances to be squandered.

Even if this didn't happen though, this doesn't mean the sport is automatically worse as some sort of godly truth. It simply means you do not like the methods employed. Some may enjoy free kicks or a shoot out over overtime, some may not. Again, it's largely down to preference. In your case, the lack of it bodes unwell for the sport in you eyes.

Management effects the on field or on ice game a large amount. Soccer is demonstrably more corrupt than any hockey league barring perhaps the KHL in Russia. This isn't an opinion thing, this is a fact that reduces the casual enjoyment of the game. many soccer fans themselves complain about this fact and how it ruins the game. The diving is another thing even real fans bitch about. Are you going to deny that diving and corruption aren't more prevalent in soccer?
Football/Soccer is a bigger sport, therefore there is a lot more room for corruption, yes. On top of that how it's been managed has not been at it's best. However what I am trying to point out is that A. This is not something inherently related to the concept of the actual game. B. For many, it's an annoyance but doesn't ruin the game, it still has millions upon millions of fans. C. Though it may be a fact, it really all comes down to the individual as to if it makes the game inferior to another.

You didn't come here saying that Football/Soccer was worse than Hockey over corruption. You talked about how Football/Soccer was worse due to the assumption of a lack of endurance and willingness to enter people into fatigued situations.
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