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Ford Prefect wrote:

adam_grif wrote:console with free HDMI cables (PS3)

Eh? Since when? All the people I know who have PS3s have purchased HDMI cables separately.

They've recently started bundling new PS3s & 360s with HDMI cables. Not that it matters much since you can get the cables off Amazon for like $3.00.

adam_grif wrote:Schatten is essentially complaining because the PS3 bundles aren't catered to his specific situation, and that he has to buy something separately.

No, I'm complaining that a PS3 is $100 dollars more expensive than it's 360 counterpart and whilst it does include a rechargeable controller in the box it does not include a headset. This was a minor gripe about Sony regrettably not realizing how big online play would become to the players like myself and then back onto MAG, but we can turn it into a 'bash the PS3' thread if your retarded ass wants to. Even though I've spent most of my free time for the past three days playing this console, I'm spiteful & vindictive enough to accommodate calling you a moron if you so choose.

General Schatten wrote:

adam_grif wrote:Schatten is essentially complaining because the PS3 bundles aren't catered to his specific situation, and that he has to buy something separately.

No, I'm complaining that a PS3 is $100 dollars more expensive than it's 360 counterpart and whilst it does include a rechargeable controller in the box it does not include a headset. This was a minor gripe about Sony regrettably not realizing how big online play would become to the players like myself and then back onto MAG, but we can turn it into a 'bash the PS3' thread if your retarded ass wants to. Even though I've spent most of my free time for the past three days playing this console, I'm spiteful & vindictive enough to accommodate calling you a moron if you so choose.

On the other hand you have to pay like $100 extra to get wireless connectivity with the 360 at all, so it balances out.

General Schatten wrote:No, I'm complaining that a PS3 is $100 dollars more expensive than it's 360 counterpart and whilst it does include a rechargeable controller in the box it does not include a headset.

What's odd is, I haven't seen ANY PS3 bundles besides the old Advent Children and MGS4 bundles, and both of the 120 GB incarnations for both systems are now the same price. Are you referring to the hard drive-less 360 Arcade?

General Zod wrote:

General Schatten wrote:

adam_grif wrote:Schatten is essentially complaining because the PS3 bundles aren't catered to his specific situation, and that he has to buy something separately.

No, I'm complaining that a PS3 is $100 dollars more expensive than it's 360 counterpart and whilst it does include a rechargeable controller in the box it does not include a headset. This was a minor gripe about Sony regrettably not realizing how big online play would become to the players like myself and then back onto MAG, but we can turn it into a 'bash the PS3' thread if your retarded ass wants to. Even though I've spent most of my free time for the past three days playing this console, I'm spiteful & vindictive enough to accommodate calling you a moron if you so choose.

On the other hand you have to pay like $100 extra to get wireless connectivity with the 360 at all, so it balances out.

While that's lame, it again doesn't impact multi or the community the way bundled headsets do. MS had experience with Xbox and Live that is probably why PSN sucked so bad for ages.

General Zod wrote:On the other hand you have to pay like $100 extra to get wireless connectivity with the 360 at all, so it balances out.

Ethernet cable.

Indeed its not like you are going to be moving your console around constantly.

General Schatten wrote:

General Zod wrote:On the other hand you have to pay like $100 extra to get wireless connectivity with the 360 at all, so it balances out.

Ethernet cable.

Turns out not everyone keeps their console near their routers or wants to run a bunch of ugly looking wire through their house? Sort of how not everyone cares about multi.

People who don't care about multi don't use headsets, so what's your point?

General Zod wrote:
Turns out not everyone keeps their console near their routers or wants to run a bunch of ugly looking wire through their house? Sort of how not everyone cares about multi.

Roll up the cable if you don't need it?

If you have a laptop just connect wireless through that and LAN bridge the connection when you wanna play 360

That is exactly what I do. I don't know anybody in person who is serious about multiplayer over Live that uses a wireless connection. Not bundling something as cheap as a headset is just ridiculous, that pretty much says it all about priorities. Online play the 360 is hands down better than what I've seen from people playing playstation network, but I don't actually own a ps3 so grain of salt this paragraph I suppose.

My 360 came with an HDMI cable, an ethernet cable, a rechargeable controller and some crappy games. There are various bundles of 360 though, you can get cheaper bundles with less stuff, right down to one without a hard drive. The difference in price between an Arcade, which I think is the stripped down one and the Elite is something like 25 ~30%, I really don't get why anybody wouldn't just buy the all inclusive one if you have the disposable income to buy a console in the first place.

Kind of like people whining about paying 5 bucks a month for xbox live. Seriously if you can afford a console AND a good TV AND games you should be able to afford the equivelant of two coffees a month.