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Now if they would just cancel the proms for the next 25 years, and spend the money somewhere else useful, like better teachers or something.
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MKSheppard wrote:Now if they would just cancel the proms for the next 25 years, and spend the money somewhere else useful, like better teachers or something.
American schools actually pay for proms from their state budgets?

We had to pay for ours...
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I honestly do not know.

I mean, I didn't pay very much attention to proms when I was in school, so I don't know.

Either way, waste of money that could be put to much better use.
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Seriously, I'd agree with you. Hell, rearming yourselves with awesome 1960s Curtis LeMay hardware or small nuclear power systems or whatever you've got in graph form's probably better than crappy proms for crappy homophobic fuckeroos as well. Screw them. In the ass, for added irony too.
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People like Junior King or Lisa McLesbian should just shut the fuck up and stop mildly inconveniencing hurting homophobic shitheads normal people!
Oh no it's not racism or homophobism it's just because Rosa Parks was FAT FAT FAT just like how McLesbian's ugliness was the cause of canceling prom.

Fuck it. Who fucking cares if prom got cancelled and a bunch of emotional hormone-pumped teens didn't get to dance in shitty tuxes and slutty dresses, and where losers whine about doing their best while winners go fuck the prom queen? Aren't the homophobic discriminatory attitudes of the school or whatever more pressing issues and matters to deal with?

Oh no they didn't have their prom, innocent people were HARMED! Would homophobic fuckeroos be saying the same thing if it was Jews who ruined a prom by standing up against stahlhelm-wearing Nazi school staff? Oh no, anti-Semites! I hope the fucking black panthers punch those homophobes in the face with a race riot.
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At my highschool we had a somewhat similar problem w/ prom dates and school policy-

Tickets to a dance were, say, $40 apiece. However, couples could buy a "Couples Ticket" for $70 saving each partner $5 which was what most people did. That was until some same-sex couples tried to buy couples tickets and the result was the death of the couples tickets and full-price for everyone. I don't think anyone really cared, but we were just pissed at the administration more than anything.
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Kodiak wrote:At my highschool we had a somewhat similar problem w/ prom dates and school policy-

Tickets to a dance were, say, $40 apiece. However, couples could buy a "Couples Ticket" for $70 saving each partner $5 which was what most people did. That was until some same-sex couples tried to buy couples tickets and the result was the death of the couples tickets and full-price for everyone. I don't think anyone really cared, but we were just pissed at the administration more than anything.
I think that's because single people were just teaming up with friends to get around the discount with the result being that NOBODY was going to be paying the full ticket price. How many same-sex couples were even AT our prom?
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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:In a way this is good news...

All I can say, though, is that I deeply hope her parents have shotguns and the know-how and will to use them. (Her too, for that matter.)

She's going to catch heat for this, and if they're lucky it'll be vandalism. If not, well...

Mississipians may be the heirs of the Good Ole' Antebellum South, possibly moreso than any other part of the country. Yet, I wouldn't put it past them to have more in common with Africa than they'd ever care to admit; I honestly wouldn't put it past some of those inbred monsters who inhabit such places to try to fuck the gay out of her. Frankly, at this point I wouldn't say it's a stretch to say there's a very high probability of some kind of assault upon her person.
How is this, presuming you are correct, in any imaginable way good news?
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The good news is that if this goes through to the courts, it's very likely that the school will get smacked down and that in future, people will be less likely to try this kind of ridiculous foul bullshit as a way of (literally) bashing gays by proxy.

The bad news is, of course, that this attempt to bash gays by proxy may work, even if future attempts are deterred by the punishment that lands on the people who did it.
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The Romulan Republic wrote:
ShadowDragon8685 wrote:In a way this is good news...

All I can say, though, is that I deeply hope her parents have shotguns and the know-how and will to use them. (Her too, for that matter.)

She's going to catch heat for this, and if they're lucky it'll be vandalism. If not, well...

Mississipians may be the heirs of the Good Ole' Antebellum South, possibly moreso than any other part of the country. Yet, I wouldn't put it past them to have more in common with Africa than they'd ever care to admit; I honestly wouldn't put it past some of those inbred monsters who inhabit such places to try to fuck the gay out of her. Frankly, at this point I wouldn't say it's a stretch to say there's a very high probability of some kind of assault upon her person.
How is this, presuming you are correct, in any imaginable way good news?
Her standing up is good news.

The rest, well, do note the caveat I stated about hoping she and her family were well-armed. That would not be good news in the slightest, though I wouldn't be sad to see "lesbian teenager at center of controvery shoots dead would-be rapist(s)" next up in the thread.
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whackadoodle wrote: AP Story Link
AP wrote:In 2002, a gay student sued his school district in Toronto to allow him to attend a prom with his boyfriend. A judge later forced the district to allow the couple to attend and stopped the district from canceling the prom.
Turns out bigotry can pop out all over. This kind of discrimination happens to a greater extent in the South in large part because the small towns here are used to getting away with it. In other words, the victims don't fight it. This young lady and her family are fighting it, and as I expect that the court will likely rule in her favor, other schools in the U.S. will think twice before trying this shit again.
Oh bullshit. This kind of battle will have to be fought over and over and over for years as every little shithole of a fiefdom of a bumblefuck school district thinks they're going to make the Big Epic Stand Against the Gays or whatever and tries to ban same-sex couples at their proms or homecoming dances or graduations or whatever else their underused brains can think of. It'll be just like all those podunk schools which banned dances when there was a chance there might be an interracial couples. Every time one got smacked another three thought they'd be really, really clever by doing the same thing.
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whackadoodle wrote: AP Story Link
AP wrote:In 2002, a gay student sued his school district in Toronto to allow him to attend a prom with his boyfriend. A judge later forced the district to allow the couple to attend and stopped the district from canceling the prom.
Turns out bigotry can pop out all over. This kind of discrimination happens to a greater extent in the South in large part because the small towns here are used to getting away with it. In other words, the victims don't fight it. This young lady and her family are fighting it, and as I expect that the court will likely rule in her favor, other schools in the U.S. will think twice before trying this shit again.
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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:Isn't it funny how it's always the ones screaming about how it will "make a scene" or "cause a disruption" that are in fact the ones causing the disruptive scene?
Well, my mom once told me that the teachers who shout at their students are the insecure ones and that has kept being true in any other instance of someone "making a scene", too. I like to use dogs as an example: the smaller they are, the more (frantic) they bark - the bigger dogs are allways cool and confident.

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MKSheppard wrote:Now if they would just cancel the proms for the next 25 years, and spend the money somewhere else useful, like better teachers or something.
American schools actually pay for proms from their state budgets?

We had to pay for ours...
Students pay for it by fundraising and by buying tickets, at least in our district. Student funds in California are supposed to be kept completely separate from district funds. PDF alert! FCMAT ASB accounting manual.
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whackadoodle wrote:AP Story Link
AP wrote:In 2002, a gay student sued his school district in Toronto to allow him to attend a prom with his boyfriend. A judge later forced the district to allow the couple to attend and stopped the district from canceling the prom.
Turns out bigotry can pop out all over. This kind of discrimination happens to a greater extent in the South in large part because the small towns here are used to getting away with it. In other words, the victims don't fight it. This young lady and her family are fighting it, and as I expect that the court will likely rule in her favor, other schools in the U.S. will think twice before trying this shit again.
Oh bullshit. This kind of battle will have to be fought over and over and over for years as every little shithole of a fiefdom of a bumblefuck school district thinks they're going to make the Big Epic Stand Against the Gays or whatever and tries to ban same-sex couples at their proms or homecoming dances or graduations or whatever else their underused brains can think of. It'll be just like all those podunk schools which banned dances when there was a chance there might be an interracial couples. Every time one got smacked another three thought they'd be really, really clever by doing the same thing.
You might also want to check out this link to a news story from 2002 about the Toronto incident: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2002/05/ ... 20510.html

whackadoodle's description of the incident in Toronto conveniently leaves out a critical piece of information: the particular school in question was a Roman Catholic school. You expect that sort of thing from a Roman Catholic school, even in Toronto, but despite their pleas of religious privilege, the judge told them to go fuck themselves. Don't expect to see that kind of outcome in the US south. Here's a telling excerpt from the news article about the 2002 Toronto incident:
Hall said he's not worried about encountering anyone at the prom who might be upset about the judge's decision.

"Most them support me anyway, so I'm just going to go have fun with them," he told reporters.
Compare that to the girl who is now being ostracized by her peers.

I'm sick of US southern apologists trying to pretend the confederacy is no worse than anyone else when it comes to racism and homophobia. They always rely on the same idiotic black/white fallacies, ie- "it's not zero elsewhere, so we're no worse than anyone else!".
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whackadoodle'sAP's description of the incident in Toronto conveniently leaves out a critical piece of information: the particular school in question was a Roman Catholic school. You expect that sort of thing from a Roman Catholic school, even in Toronto, but despite their pleas of religious privilege, the judge told them to go fuck themselves. Don't expect to see that kind of outcome in the US south. Here's a telling excerpt from the news article about the 2002 Toronto incident:
But yeah, you're right - I should have dug into that bit of the story a little further. Although, I do expect to see that kind of outcome, even in the South. ACLU 2009
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Alabama: Assisted attorney for two girls to win state court ruling ordering Scottsboro City Board of Education to allow them to attend their prom together

Arkansas: Persuaded Twin Rivers School District to allow students to attend prom with dates of their choice, regardless of gender

California: Assisted gay student couple in successful effort to persuade Simi Valley High School officials to allow them to go to the prom

Illinois: Successfully challenged decision of high school in Spring Valley not to allow student to take a date of the same sex to prom

Oklahoma: Helped students resolve favorably prom dispute at Eisenhower High School in Lawton

Texas: Helped student in Pflugerville persuade principal to change school’s policy of only opposite-sex dates for prom

Wisconsin: Advocated unsuccessfully on behalf of gay male senior at Racine Park High School whom school officials prevented from running for Prom Queen
I'm sick of US southern apologists trying to pretend the confederacy is no worse than anyone else when it comes to racism and homophobia. They always rely on the same idiotic black/white fallacies, ie- "it's not zero elsewhere, so we're no worse than anyone else!".
What?? I clearly stated that this shit was more prevalent in the South, attempting to explain why that it was. I simply wanted to point out that it also occurs elsewhere, as well. Where in the hell in my statement did I attempt to claim/imply that the South is not any worse than anywhere else. I live here; I KNOW it's worse. I just get annoyed when others seem to think that discrimination doesn't happen where they live (see ACLU link above).
Researching this further, I learned that homosexual rights was added to the Canadian Human Rights Act in 1996. Until similar protections are enacted in the US on the federal level, LGBT discrimination will continue to occur institutionally in small towns throughout the US. It's my belief that high profile cases like the one in Mississippi move us closer to achieving that. It's the personal stories of stupid needless bigotry wrecking people's lives that will convince the majority that something needs to be done.
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Just to be clear, I was calling bullshit on this line:
This young lady and her family are fighting it, and as I expect that the court will likely rule in her favor, other schools in the U.S. will think twice before trying this shit again.
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Darth Wong wrote: I'm sick of US southern apologists trying to pretend the confederacy is no worse than anyone else when it comes to racism and homophobia. They always rely on the same idiotic black/white fallacies, ie- "it's not zero elsewhere, so we're no worse than anyone else!".
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Mayabird wrote:Oh bullshit. This kind of battle will have to be fought over and over and over for years as every little shithole of a fiefdom of a bumblefuck school district thinks they're going to make the Big Epic Stand Against the Gays or whatever and tries to ban same-sex couples at their proms or homecoming dances or graduations or whatever else their underused brains can think of. It'll be just like all those podunk schools which banned dances when there was a chance there might be an interracial couples. Every time one got smacked another three thought they'd be really, really clever by doing the same thing.
Smack enough of them, and the remnant do start to learn, but it can't be done in one battle.
Mayabird wrote:Just to be clear, I was calling bullshit on this line:
This young lady and her family are fighting it, and as I expect that the court will likely rule in her favor, other schools in the U.S. will think twice before trying this shit again.
True. But with luck, instead of thinking zero times they might think once, or think 1.01 times instead of once. It's an incremental process; you can't expect dropping the hammer on one group of assholes in one place to affect all assholes everywhere.
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Humanists Prepare to Hold LGBT-Inclusive Prom in Mississippi
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(Washington, DC, March 12, 2010) The American Humanist Association (AHA) stepped forward today and offered to plan and fund a prom for the Itawamba County Agricultural High School in Mississippi. The Itawamba County School District made headlines earlier this week by cancelling their prom rather than letting a lesbian student, Constance McMillen, bring her girlfriend as her date.

“It’s shameful that closed-minded members of the school board are prepared to deprive an entire class of students their prom over their outdated religious mores.” said Roy Speckhardt, Executive Director of the AHA. "People can hold to any belief or no belief in this nation, but the school board misuses their position when they try to impose their beliefs on the student population in Itawamba.”

McMillen was barred from the prom after making it known that she intended to bring a same-sex date. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Mississippi became involved and demanded the school reverse its policy. The school board responded by cancelling the prom.

“The ACLU is doing good work in Mississippi, and we humanists can also bring resources to the table that will defend students from a repressive school board,” added Speckhardt. “Prom is a special event for teens across America; we’ll make sure it’s a special night for these students as well.”

AHA members Todd and Diana Stiefel made a $20,000 grant available to the AHA for the purpose of holding a prom in Itawamba County. The AHA will be discussing logistics with the pertinent parties today.

Humanists and freethinkers have a history of speaking up for the rights of all. The AHA was among the first to support civil rights, equal pay for equal work, and the right of same-sex couples to marry. Recently the AHA launched the LGBT Humanist Council to advance equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people and their families. (http://www.lgbthumanists.org).

The American Humanist Association (http://www.americanhumanist.org) advocates for the rights and viewpoints of humanists. Founded in 1941 and headquartered in Washington, D.C., its work is extended through more than 100 local chapters and affiliates across America.

Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without theism, affirms our responsibility to lead ethical lives of value to self and humanity.
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I shudder to think what those folks would do if you just showed them some Dietrich movies from the 40's...

And I recall my own senior year 22 years ago, when the local fundies raised a stink about a couple who wanted to show up, cross dressed, made a simular stink, until the whole of the Theater/Chior group showed up in their Saturday Night Midnight Movie coustumes.

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There's been an update:
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Judge: No school prom but lesbian's right violated
By SHELIA BYRD, Associated Press Writer Shelia Byrd, Associated Press Writer 34 mins ago

JACKSON, Miss. – The prom's still off at a Mississippi high school that canceled it instead of letting a lesbian student bring her girlfriend, but a federal judge ruled Tuesday that the district's actions did violate the teen's constitutional rights.

U.S. District Judge Glen H. Davidson refused the American Civil Liberties Union's demand to force the Itawamba County school district to put on the April 2 prom. However, he said canceling it did violate 18-year-old Constance McMillen's rights and that he would hold a trial on the issue.

That would come too late for the prom to be salvaged at Itawamba Agricultural High School. Still, Kristy Bennett, ACLU Mississippi legal director, called the decision a victory.

The American Civil Liberties Union sued the district to force it to put on the prom and allow McMillen to bring her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo. School officials said in U.S. District Court this week that they decided to cancel it because McMillen's challenge to the rules had caused disruptions.

The judge noted that McMillen has been openly gay since she was in the eighth grade and that she intended to communicate a message by wearing a tuxedo and escorting a same-sex date.

"The court finds this expression and communication falls squarely within the purview of the First Amendment," Davidson said.

As for McMillen, she said she was happy about the ruling but doesn't know what to expect when she returns to school. She attended classes a day after the March 10 decision to cancel the prom. But she said the hostility and comments from other students led her to miss school. She skipped class on Tuesday to go to the doctor and the fight is taking a toll, she said.

"My nerves are shot," she said.

District officials said in a statement that they were ready to get back to educating students.

Davidson said a private prom parents are planning will serve the same purpose as a school-sponsored one. He wrote that "requiring defendants to step back into a sponsorship role at this late date would only confuse and confound the community on the issue."

McMillen isn't sure if she'll go to the dance.

"I'm going to school tomorrow (Wednesday) and will get a feel of how everybody feels about me. That will help me make my decision about whether I'm going to the private prom," McMillen said. "I want to go because all my junior and senior class will be there, but I don't want to be somewhere I'm not welcomed."

Ben Griffith, the school district's attorney, said his clients were pleased with the ruling.

"What we're looking at now is the fact that the case is still on the docket for a trial on the merits," Griffith said.

McMillen first approached school officials about bringing her girlfriend in December, and again in February. Same-sex prom dates had been banned in the past, but she had hoped school officials would grant her request.

"I thought maybe the policy had been in place for a different reason," McMillen testified at a hearing on the ACLU lawsuit. "I wanted to let them know how it made me feel. I felt like I couldn't go to the prom."

She was told two girls couldn't attend together and she wouldn't be allowed to wear a tuxedo, court documents show. The ACLU issued a demand letter earlier this month and the district responded by canceling the event. McMillen, who lives with her grandmother and has a 3.8 grade point average, has kept her 16-year-old girlfriend out of the spotlight at the request of the girl's parents.

District officials said they felt not hosting the prom was the best decision "after taking into consideration the education, safety and well being of our students." Superintendent Teresa McNeece said it was "a no-win situation."

The 715-student high school is located in Fulton, a town of about 4,000 in rural, north Mississippi. The entire county school district has 3,588 students.

The case is typical of what's happening in schools across the country, said Charles Haynes, senior scholar for The Freedom Forum First Amendment Center.

"This case is different because this is not just dress, it is a higher claim of personal identity," Haynes said. "I think that if the student prevails in this case, it will send a message to school districts that they need to accommodate students now who are openly gay and lesbian and want to participate in student activities," Haynes said.

Her case has become a cause celebre.

She has appeared on the "The Early Show," "The Wanda Sykes Show" and "The Ellen DeGeneres Show" to talk about how she is fighting for tolerance. DeGeneres presented her with a $30,000 college scholarship from Tonic, a digital media company. A Facebook page set up by the ACLU for McMillen has over 400,000 fans.
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This is good news. What's going on with that privately-sponsered prom that was vowing to let her and her date come, in a tux or otherwise? Seems like they're still on, but she's nervous.


I love the message the school is trying to send, though. It's very clearly "the nail that sticks up gets hammered." Yet another reason the Deep South sucks. Does anyone have a Lousiana.gif match for Florida.gif?
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Samuel wrote:
spaceviking wrote:Maybe it’s because I’m from the crazy Soviet Republic of Kanukistan, but the schools is entirely creating an issue when they could just ignore it. Where I’m from it’s not uncommon for heterosexual girls to go to the prom together as friend, or for guy and a girl to attend prom together despite no romantic involvement. Can’t the school just treat them as if they were simply two friends?
No, because she was wearing a tuxedo. Nontraditional gender roles scare these people.
Why couldn't she just where a non-tuxedo or a dress?

Why do certain lesbian have an adversion to clothing that accentuates the female form?

Here's some news. This happens a lot. But most of the time, the girl or guy in question will just wear clothing and shit so they don't make an uproar. The girl knew shit would hit the fan over her whereing a guys clothing to a Prom, an event heavily steeped in tradition. I guess the word tact is appropiate.

I am not on the school's side here, I am just pointing out that utter obvoiusness that she wanted to cause a damn ruckus. IT had to be damn freakin clear what the reaction would be, especially if she grew up in those parts. Honestly, what's wrong with wearing a dress if it is so you be with someone you love ? I don't see why lesbian have to rebel against something so simple as this. Part of the real-world is that sometimes, you have to do shit you don't like. Period. Just be who you are, stuff your pride down your throat, and get on with it. Then again, this is Mississippi, common sense and basic tact are lost on these people.

Again, not taking the Schools side, just pointing out that she would have known a veritable shitstorm would erupt. I doubt the homosexual thing would have that much of a problem. It never was when I was in school and Alabama is just above Mississippi. Then again, I don't think we had that many falmers amongst the High School gay crowd. Or atleast they weren't at school. Disruptive behavior and all. Honestly our Emo kids were more effiminate than the gays we had.
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Samuel wrote:
spaceviking wrote:Maybe it’s because I’m from the crazy Soviet Republic of Kanukistan, but the schools is entirely creating an issue when they could just ignore it. Where I’m from it’s not uncommon for heterosexual girls to go to the prom together as friend, or for guy and a girl to attend prom together despite no romantic involvement. Can’t the school just treat them as if they were simply two friends?
No, because she was wearing a tuxedo. Nontraditional gender roles scare these people.
Why couldn't she just where a non-tuxedo or a dress?

Why do certain lesbian have an adversion to clothing that accentuates the female form?

Here's some news. This happens a lot. But most of the time, the girl or guy in question will just wear clothing and shit so they don't make an uproar. The girl knew shit would hit the fan over her whereing a guys clothing to a Prom, an event heavily steeped in tradition. I guess the word tact is appropiate.

I am not on the school's side here, I am just pointing out that utter obvoiusness that she wanted to cause a damn ruckus. IT had to be damn freakin clear what the reaction would be, especially if she grew up in those parts. Honestly, what's wrong with wearing a dress if it is so you be with someone you love ? I don't see why lesbian have to rebel against something so simple as this. Part of the real-world is that sometimes, you have to do shit you don't like. Period. Just be who you are, stuff your pride down your throat, and get on with it. Then again, this is Mississippi, common sense and basic tact are lost on these people.

Again, not taking the Schools side, just pointing out that she would have known a veritable shitstorm would erupt. I doubt the homosexual thing would have that much of a problem. It never was when I was in school and Alabama is just above Mississippi. Then again, I don't think we had that many falmers amongst the High School gay crowd. Or atleast they weren't at school. Disruptive behavior and all. Honestly our Emo kids were more effiminate than the gays we had.

I'm going to add to this.

Her whereing the Tux distracted the struggle or stand about her homosexuality and it briefly became about what she wore. If she had worn a dress and then gave a kiss to her mate or danced during a couples dance then the attention would have been solely on her homosexuality and she wouldn't have ruined the Prom for the rest of the class. Again, she should have thought it through and again not on the schools side. Also, to whoever thought Coreective Rape would happen, WTF? Really, so they're aweful to you and must thus use the worst thing imaginable instead of just, I don't know, ignoring her ass and refusing to socialized with her at all? Vandalism maybe but that? The hell are you smoking?
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Why couldn't she just where a non-tuxedo or a dress?

Why do certain lesbian have an adversion to clothing that accentuates the female form?

Here's some news. This happens a lot. But most of the time, the girl or guy in question will just wear clothing and shit so they don't make an uproar. The girl knew shit would hit the fan over her whereing a guys clothing to a Prom, an event heavily steeped in tradition. I guess the word tact is appropiate.
Maybe she was trying to make a statement about the oppression that is heteronormative culture for those who do not fit inside the little box.

Would you like me to go into the statistics for what bigoted straight people do to gay people on a regular basis? Perhaps this is fitting protest.
I am not on the school's side here, I am just pointing out that utter obvoiusness that she wanted to cause a damn ruckus.
Of course. That is the point of a political protest.
I don't see why lesbian have to rebel against something so simple as this. Part of the real-world is that sometimes, you have to do shit you don't like.
In other words, it is OK to be a lesbian so long as you hide in the closet while we straight people treat you like you are subhuman. Dont rock the boat, and maybe, just maybe, we wont make your life a living hell.
Just be who you are, stuff your pride down your throat, and get on with it.
Sacrifice your dignity on the altar of mindless conformity.
doubt the homosexual thing would have that much of a problem.
You are an idiot then.
It never was when I was in school and Alabama is just above Mississippi.
When and in how large a city?

I was beaten a few times, and once sexually assaulted. That was Arizona. Alabama and Mississippi are worse statistically. Maybe you just turned a blind eye to it and have since forgotten because the gays who were suffering all around you were beneath you.
If she had worn a dress and then gave a kiss to her mate or danced during a couples dance then the attention would have been solely on her homosexuality and she wouldn't have ruined the Prom for the rest of the class.
No. She would have been prohibited from entering the prom with said girlfriend regardless of what she wore.

And it was not her that ruined the prom. It was the bigotry and self-righteousness of the administration that ruined prom.
Vandalism maybe but that? The hell are you smoking?
It happens to lesbian girls all the time. Gay guys too actually. Oddly enough, other guys rape us in order to victimize and humiliate us. I find the irony somewhat comforting when I am forced to remember that coke bottle someone tried to insert into my rectum in the cafeteria while others stood around and laughed. Thankfully, I am fairly scrappy and fought the bastard off. But that was done in public.

Or how about that time an acquaintance of mine was murdered and the cops wrote it off as a suicide (Kind of hard to tie yourself to a chair and asphyxiate yourself with a plastic bag, wouldn't you agree?)
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