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Posted: 2003-02-09 02:43pm
by jaeger115
I think Ted needs to be banned or at least take some time off from posting here. It isn't good to post if everyone knows that he has lost his facade.

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:31pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I'm agreeing with Knife on this.

In my opinion, Ted's behavior of late seems to reveal him as a sadist. Not the mild BDSM kind, but someone who truly hurts other people for their own pleasure.

I say he should be punnished for his heartless behavior.

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:38pm
by Ted
Zaia wrote:That makes no sense to me. Before I got to the party, you got her to tell me (me, who wasn't there yet) that you were sorry? I don't get that.
I was talking to Ewo, and she said that you were about to arrive, I decided to send you an apology then. I know it wasn't a good one, but it was all I could do at that time. I was planning on sending you another apology later on.
I also don't get how you think it's ok to have Ewo just 'pass it on.' You couldn't be bothered to say anything to me personally?! You told Ewo to tell me? What, are you in middle school still? Would it have been too hard to send me a PM? You didn't seem to have a hard time sending those out when you were begging for my picture, Ted. Why is it so hard to do now?
I would have done so, if you were online at that time. But you weren't.
One more thing: why did you ignore the other half of my post? Do you have some secret reason why you think I deserve to be treated in this manner, or did you realize that I don't deserve this and that you have no justification for what you said?
Quote:
Maybe those people dont deserve my being mean to them, but then again, maybe they do.

WTF does that mean? What the hell have I done to you to warrant this, Ted? What? What have I done that can make your hurtful comments justified?
That bit.

I never stated you.

People like Iggy, who flamed me for no reason, they deserve it. You didn't, yes, but others did.[/quote]

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:46pm
by Stormbringer
Ted wrote:
Zaia wrote:WTF does that mean? What the hell have I done to you to warrant this, Ted? What? What have I done that can make your hurtful comments justified?
That bit.

I never stated you.

People like Iggy, who flamed me for no reason, they deserve it. You didn't, yes, but others did.
If you think a comment like that means she deserves your malicious and hurtful comments then you are indeed a pathetic excuse for a human being.

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:47pm
by HemlockGrey
I'm thinking that a week-long vacation might do you some good, Ted.

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:49pm
by J
Ted, listen, there is no way for you to justify or talk your way out of the mess you're in right now. Quit making excuses and stop trying to justify yourself, it's not going to work because there's no substance behind it. Face the fact that you screwed up, you are at fault, no ifs, ands, or buts, and deal with it. This is not a time for pride or arguing, admit that you're wrong, apologize, and most importantly think and reflect on your actions as of late so this doesn't happen again.

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:49pm
by Ted
HemlockGrey wrote:I'm thinking that a week-long vacation might do you some good, Ted.
I've suggested to Mike that he ban me, so considering that, and the general opinion, I probably wont be here for much longer. Probably good thing.

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:50pm
by HemlockGrey
No, I don't think a perm ban would do that much good. Rather, apologize to all parties, give it a week for tempers to cool, and then calm down and start to think before you type, instead of coming off so callous/uninformed.

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:54pm
by J
Ted wrote:I've suggested to Mike that he ban me, so considering that, and the general opinion, I probably wont be here for much longer. Probably good thing.
And that is running away from the problem and taking the easy way out. Listen, ask yourself this, what exactly will you accomplish by leaving?

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:56pm
by Knife
Ted wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:I'm thinking that a week-long vacation might do you some good, Ted.
I've suggested to Mike that he ban me, so considering that, and the general opinion, I probably wont be here for much longer. Probably good thing.
NO, that is the easy and quite frankly the bullshit way out of it. If you get banned, weather you actually ask for it or not, you are side stepping your responsibility of standing up and acting like a man and APOLOGIZING. Don't try to slime your way out of it with excusses and such.

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:57pm
by Stormbringer
jmac wrote:
Ted wrote:I've suggested to Mike that he ban me, so considering that, and the general opinion, I probably wont be here for much longer. Probably good thing.
And that is running away from the problem and taking the easy way out. Listen, ask yourself this, what exactly will you accomplish by leaving?
If he wants to go then I see no reason to stop him given his behaviour.

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:57pm
by Knife
jmac wrote:
Ted wrote:I've suggested to Mike that he ban me, so considering that, and the general opinion, I probably wont be here for much longer. Probably good thing.
And that is running away from the problem and taking the easy way out. Listen, ask yourself this, what exactly will you accomplish by leaving?
Damn, you beat me too it and wow we agree. :shock:

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:59pm
by Knife
Stormbringer wrote:
jmac wrote:
Ted wrote:I've suggested to Mike that he ban me, so considering that, and the general opinion, I probably wont be here for much longer. Probably good thing.
And that is running away from the problem and taking the easy way out. Listen, ask yourself this, what exactly will you accomplish by leaving?
If he wants to go then I see no reason to stop him given his behaviour.
No, he needs to take responsibility for his actions, instead of the bullshit that has come out of his mouth/typing fingers.

Posted: 2003-02-09 03:59pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
An apology from a sadist is a hollow one.

Posted: 2003-02-09 04:03pm
by Stormbringer
Knife wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
jmac wrote:If he wants to go then I see no reason to stop him given his behaviour.
No, he needs to take responsibility for his actions, instead of the bullshit that has come out of his mouth/typing fingers.
But I highly doubt he will. If he won't, and I see no evidence that he will, then I say good riddance.

Posted: 2003-02-09 04:03pm
by Sea Skimmer
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:An apology from a sadist is a hollow one.
And even more meaningless if it's only given because others are driving him too do so. If an apology isn't offered freely its worth nothing.

Posted: 2003-02-09 04:06pm
by Zaku-chan
Um. Wow, I guess I missed something pretty bad. What happened?
Knife wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:If he wants to go then I see no reason to stop him given his behaviour.
No, he needs to take responsibility for his actions, instead of the bullshit that has come out of his mouth/typing fingers.
Knife, Stormbringer has a point: there's no way you can force Ted into apologizing for whatever he's done. Whether Mike bans him or not, all he has to do is stop posting and his problem's over.

Posted: 2003-02-09 04:08pm
by Stormbringer
Zaku-chan wrote:Um. Wow, I guess I missed something pretty bad. What happened?
Ted made an incredibly jack assed remark to Zaia. It was a horrible, horrible remark at the worst possible time and he knew it.

Posted: 2003-02-09 04:09pm
by Zaku-chan
Stormbringer wrote:
Zaku-chan wrote:Um. Wow, I guess I missed something pretty bad. What happened?
Ted made an incredibly jack assed remark to Zaia. It was a horrible, horrible remark at the worst possible time and he knew it.
Is that why it seems like the whole board is up in arms here?

Posted: 2003-02-09 04:10pm
by Stormbringer
Zaku-chan wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Zaku-chan wrote:Um. Wow, I guess I missed something pretty bad. What happened?
Ted made an incredibly jack assed remark to Zaia. It was a horrible, horrible remark at the worst possible time and he knew it.
Is that why it seems like the whole board is up in arms here?
Partially. That was part of a large multi-front flame war.

Posted: 2003-02-09 04:11pm
by Master of Ossus
Ted, look, Zaia didn't in any way deserve what you said to her. You can't justify what you said just by saying that someone else who is DISTANTLY related to her ended up hurting your feelings. Your behavior has not been acceptable in the last few days, and I think that you owe Zaia (if no one else) an apology for what you said.

Posted: 2003-02-09 04:12pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Zaku-chan wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Zaku-chan wrote:Um. Wow, I guess I missed something pretty bad. What happened?
Ted made an incredibly jack assed remark to Zaia. It was a horrible, horrible remark at the worst possible time and he knew it.
Is that why it seems like the whole board is up in arms here?
It kinda merged with whatever the fuck was going on in ATJ and AIIF, and Ted and Ando threw some insults at Kelly as well, then everyone pretty much exploded for a second time.

Posted: 2003-02-09 04:28pm
by Knife
Zaku-chan wrote:Um. Wow, I guess I missed something pretty bad. What happened?
Knife wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:If he wants to go then I see no reason to stop him given his behaviour.
No, he needs to take responsibility for his actions, instead of the bullshit that has come out of his mouth/typing fingers.
Knife, Stormbringer has a point: there's no way you can force Ted into apologizing for whatever he's done. Whether Mike bans him or not, all he has to do is stop posting and his problem's over.
True, but to have Ted come in and type blantent, heart shredding posts and then to have him throw out some bullshit excusses and get banned just leaves the impression that that kind of shit is acceptable. A statment must be made to dissude other from doing the same.

While a forced apology is not a honest apology, it serves to make a statement that you can not do the shit that he did and not suffer any consquences. If Mike justs banns him, he gets away scott free with his actions and attitudes. He already stated that he suggested to Mike that he should be banned, which shows that he already calculated that factor into his decision to be a dick. By being forced by peers to apologize, he is made to suffer consquences that he did not already pre-accept in order to be an ass.

Posted: 2003-02-09 04:40pm
by HemlockGrey
Further, Ted's flagrant anti-Americanism certainly didn't win him any points with Skimmer, Stravo and I.

However, a perm ban is not the solution, I don't think. It may suprise some of you to learn this, but once, on a board far, far away, I was once an enormous troll and jackass of massive proportions. However, I was bitchslapped and given a chance to reform. I did, and hence you have before the I of today.

Therefor, I believe Ted should be bitchslapped, temp banned, given a while to calm down. If he thinks he can control himself, honestly apologize, and stop acting like a dick, I think he should be allowed to remain. If he does not wish this opportunity, I'm not sure how we can force an apology out of him, so, if he wishes to simply leave, he can, and good riddance in that case.

Posted: 2003-02-09 05:52pm
by LT.Hit-Man
Stormbringer wrote:Ted: You did that to simply to hurt Zaia and that's totally unacceptable. You deliberatly set out to hurt a woman that has done nothing to do it and you did it in the cruelest way possible. Your malicious attempt is absolutely contemptible.

And your gutless apology, which I doubt even exists, is simply another low and miserable action. You owe Zaia an apology. A real and direct apology not bullshit and excuses.
*SNAP-HISS! *
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