I thought that magicians always got their powers from chaos while psykers were merely vulnerable to chaos.Also, I'm under the impression that psykers do not equal mages, and vice versa. They're two separate things. Both are warp-related, but psykers are born while most mages can be trained.
[40k] Inquisitorial Purge BD-4992 "The Hogwarts Purge&q
Moderator: NecronLord
-
- Jedi Master
- Posts: 1090
- Joined: 2006-11-18 10:55am
- Location: Europe
- Hawkwings
- Sith Devotee
- Posts: 3372
- Joined: 2005-01-28 09:30pm
- Location: USC, LA, CA
The way I understand it...
Magic is something anyone can do if they worship the Chaos gods and get powers. That's what many cultists do, since the vast majority of them aren't psykers. magicians can be powerful, but it's pretty hard. Magic is a gift from the gods, basically, that many people can receive.
Psykers draw their power directly from the Warp. They are born with their power, and can use it without any assistance from warp entities. However, their nature makes them very susceptible to daemonic possession, seeing as how they're a conduit for warp energy to get into the real universe.
Generally, all magicians = bad, since the powers are from Chaos. Haven't heard of any Emperor-sanctioned magicians, and there probably won't be any, since he hates magic. Psykers can be good, but only if they're trained and protected.
Magic is something anyone can do if they worship the Chaos gods and get powers. That's what many cultists do, since the vast majority of them aren't psykers. magicians can be powerful, but it's pretty hard. Magic is a gift from the gods, basically, that many people can receive.
Psykers draw their power directly from the Warp. They are born with their power, and can use it without any assistance from warp entities. However, their nature makes them very susceptible to daemonic possession, seeing as how they're a conduit for warp energy to get into the real universe.
Generally, all magicians = bad, since the powers are from Chaos. Haven't heard of any Emperor-sanctioned magicians, and there probably won't be any, since he hates magic. Psykers can be good, but only if they're trained and protected.
-
- Sith Marauder
- Posts: 4736
- Joined: 2005-05-18 01:31am
- The Grim Squeaker
- Emperor's Hand
- Posts: 10319
- Joined: 2005-06-01 01:44am
- Location: A different time-space Continuum
- Contact:
That isn't exact, since nearly all humans have psychic potential, its just that it is negligible in the vast majority of cases. What he gained was a major power boost. (The most famous example of this being Horus).Adrian Laguna wrote:Actually it's possible for Chaos to make a non-psyker into a psyker. One of the villains in the Eisenhorn trilogy is a very powerful psyker, but his backstory makes it obvious it wasn't always that way.
Photography
Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up.
To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.
Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up.
To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.
- Imperial Overlord
- Emperor's Hand
- Posts: 11978
- Joined: 2004-08-19 04:30am
- Location: The Tower at Charm
Mostly correct. Here's where it gets tricky: magic can be granted by the gods but it can also be learned. The early Thousands Sons and radical Inquisitors are the best examples of psykers who learn sorcery without worshiping the gods of chaos. Since sorcery is essentially the manipulation of warp energy associated with a chaos god, the practice carries with it the danger of corruption. This is why sorcery is forbidden, but used by Inquisitors of the Thorian and Xanthite factions.Hawkwings wrote:The way I understand it...
Magic is something anyone can do if they worship the Chaos gods and get powers. That's what many cultists do, since the vast majority of them aren't psykers. magicians can be powerful, but it's pretty hard. Magic is a gift from the gods, basically, that many people can receive.
Psykers draw their power directly from the Warp. They are born with their power, and can use it without any assistance from warp entities. However, their nature makes them very susceptible to daemonic possession, seeing as how they're a conduit for warp energy to get into the real universe.
Generally, all magicians = bad, since the powers are from Chaos. Haven't heard of any Emperor-sanctioned magicians, and there probably won't be any, since he hates magic. Psykers can be good, but only if they're trained and protected.
The Excellent Prismatic Spray. For when you absolutely, positively must kill a motherfucker. Accept no substitutions. Contact a magician of the later Aeons for details. Some conditions may apply.
- Stormbringer
- King of Democracy
- Posts: 22678
- Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm
Pontius Glaw?Adrian Laguna wrote:Actually it's possible for Chaos to make a non-psyker into a psyker. One of the villains in the Eisenhorn trilogy is a very powerful psyker, but his backstory makes it obvious it wasn't always that way.
It's likely that he was a psyker. The most notable evidence for this is of course his offspring, who is a psyker herself. Psykers are a mutation which is strongly hereditary. It's likely Glaw simply concealed it well and didn't let on that he was a psyker.
Horus is a bad example. All the Primarchs were psykers, if mostly latent ones. Their super-human powers and legendary deeds are a pretty common place type of manifestation of latent psyker abilities.DEATH wrote:That isn't exact, since nearly all humans have psychic potential, its just that it is negligible in the vast majority of cases. What he gained was a major power boost. (The most famous example of this being Horus).
It's more likely that Horus in making the pact with Chaos got a huge boost in his active abilities, which is not uncommon at all. It does mean essentially easier access to the warp.
There are also little things like astropathic rituals, certain Navigator's rituals, and of course things like the Emperor's Tarot that are probably Emperor-aligned magical practices.Imperial Overlord wrote:Mostly correct. Here's where it gets tricky: magic can be granted by the gods but it can also be learned. The early Thousands Sons and radical Inquisitors are the best examples of psykers who learn sorcery without worshiping the gods of chaos. Since sorcery is essentially the manipulation of warp energy associated with a chaos god, the practice carries with it the danger of corruption. This is why sorcery is forbidden, but used by Inquisitors of the Thorian and Xanthite factions.

- Imperial Overlord
- Emperor's Hand
- Posts: 11978
- Joined: 2004-08-19 04:30am
- Location: The Tower at Charm
Living Saints and Sensei abilities (however many survive) would fall under the same umbrella.Stormbringer wrote:
There are also little things like astropathic rituals, certain Navigator's rituals, and of course things like the Emperor's Tarot that are probably Emperor-aligned magical practices.
The Excellent Prismatic Spray. For when you absolutely, positively must kill a motherfucker. Accept no substitutions. Contact a magician of the later Aeons for details. Some conditions may apply.