Star Wars battle droid look-alike in Star Trek

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Well she basically said as much in the same episode, didn't she? That Data was the first (and only) android she'd ever seen, and that Data was more technologically advanced than anything she'd seen at the colony.


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Ted C wrote:
TithonusSyndrome wrote:Is there any canonical reason why droids aren't used for a wider variety of tasks as of the 24th century, other than simple Feddie incompetence?
Because, apart from Data, the Federation doesn't have the technology to get an AI into a small body. The next closest thing is the exocomps, which they didn't even realize were AIs for a long time.

Also, based on precedents involving Data and the exocomps, any AI built by the Federation would be granted citizenship rights as a sentient being. That would kind of defeat the purpose of building droids to do your scut work.
They don't need to be full-on AIs, just simple combat models that duck, shoot, protect, etc. Even if that's not possible, combat remotes controlled by human users from the safety of a ship are a possibility, or hell, simple body armor. My question extends less to the AI complications and more to the material ones.
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Darth Servo wrote:The head reminds me of a duck if anything.
I was about to say 'bird'. Both this robot and SW battle droids look vaguely avian-inspired. It's the long face and thin limbs.

Great, now I can't help but think of battle droid chatter as quacking, honking noises.
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TithonusSyndrome wrote:
Ted C wrote:
TithonusSyndrome wrote:Is there any canonical reason why droids aren't used for a wider variety of tasks as of the 24th century, other than simple Feddie incompetence?
Because, apart from Data, the Federation doesn't have the technology to get an AI into a small body. The next closest thing is the exocomps, which they didn't even realize were AIs for a long time.

Also, based on precedents involving Data and the exocomps, any AI built by the Federation would be granted citizenship rights as a sentient being. That would kind of defeat the purpose of building droids to do your scut work.
They don't need to be full-on AIs, just simple combat models that duck, shoot, protect, etc. Even if that's not possible, combat remotes controlled by human users from the safety of a ship are a possibility, or hell, simple body armor. My question extends less to the AI complications and more to the material ones.
They actually had an episode where Geordi used his visor inputs to control a small custom probe. This was in the episode where they were trying to recue the crew of a science vessel stuck inside a gas giant. Since this was supposed to be special tech, I doubt the feds have to competence to build any time of droid. Based on this episode, not even RC remotes are used in
by the feds except for that one time. Also note that they make a big deal about Geordi being jacked in directly to the remote, when a control station (or if you wanted more immersion, a holodeck based interface) would have done just as well. IN general though, feds seem to prefer to send hald a ships command staff (with a few redshirts as body shields) staight into unknown and potentially hostile situations. That's the whole point of the transporter in the Star Trek franchise, prop a main character right into the middle of a dangerous situation in with a mode of transport that doesn't let them see what's coming ahead of time (like a shuttle would).
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Winston Blake wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:The head reminds me of a duck if anything.
I was about to say 'bird'. Both this robot and SW battle droids look vaguely avian-inspired. It's the long face and thin limbs.

Great, now I can't help but think of battle droid chatter as quacking, honking noises.
Actually, I think the visual dictionary (or ISC I) says that the Battle Droids were designed to look like a dessicated Nemoidian corpse (shock value). However, It seems to me that they are a pretty close match to the Geonosians, especially the shape of the head
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I think ever since the M5 incident, Starfleet has been incredibly wary of droids, and for good reason. One subspace signal to Data and he was able to completely take over the flagship of the Federation in less than five minutes and completely prevent all attempts to stop him.

Stuff like that has to make the military planners nervous.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:I think ever since the M5 incident, Starfleet has been incredibly wary of droids, and for good reason. One subspace signal to Data and he was able to completely take over the flagship of the Federation in less than five minutes and completely prevent all attempts to stop him.

Stuff like that has to make the military planners nervous.
Well, that problem could easily be solved by their computer design not being so moronic.
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Since security onboard the flagship of the Federation is so lax that a teenager can hijack a shuttle, I think the computer is just one of many issues Starfleet needs to work out before they can be considered competent.
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