Don't mess with Aunt May.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2006-11-10 11:54am

ThatGuyFromThatPlace wrote:
Praxis wrote:<snip>

Almond tasting and fast is cyanide
Okay, how can anyone possibly know that?
<snip>
Because its possible to slowly build up an immunity to cyanide, thats how.

IIRC, the almond taste is because its extracted from almond trees - "guns germs and steel" talks about how it took several hundred tree generations to seperate the posion from the food.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2006-11-10 08:02pm

Jason von Evil wrote:
Tsyroc wrote:Does this take place in their apartment in Stark Tower?

You'd hope that Tony Stark would have better security.
Good scotch ain't cheap.

To shamelessly rip off Frank Cho:

"'Hey guysh, I jusht traded Parker'sh new shecurity shystem to a crazy cow for a crate of Whishkey!'

'Tony, you really need help'"

Stormin · Post by **Stormin** » 2006-11-11 12:04pm

TheDarkling wrote:The Iron Spider costume isn't going to last long now that Parker and Stark are on the outs,

Indeed. Peter suspects that the costume has been transmitting data to Tony about himself, and now Tony knows such things as the "spider sense" which Peter hadn't told very many people about. I would not be surprised if there was a command Tony could use to take control of the costume's features, such as the eyes and the robotic arms.
It would suck in a fight to have ones own costume turn against you.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2006-11-11 12:17pm

Stormin wrote: Indeed. Peter suspects that the costume has been transmitting data to Tony about himself, and now Tony knows such things as the "spider sense" which Peter hadn't told very many people about. I would not be surprised if there was a command Tony could use to take control of the costume's features, such as the eyes and the robotic arms.
It would suck in a fight to have ones own costume turn against you.

Yay continuity, what with Peter having told the Avengers as well as Tony about his spider sense multiple times years ago.

Considering how Stark's being treated outside his own title and CW, I'd be amazed that it hasn't implanted nanobots to turn peter into a slave while brainwashing him and threatening to destroy Aunt may's heart after replacing it with a robotic pace maker...
That hasn't happened yet, right?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-11-11 02:29pm

I've always wondered why comic book "villians" dont just say "fuck it" and just shoot someone in the head. Far simpler and more effective than screwing around like that.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2006-11-11 03:11pm

MKSheppard wrote:I've always wondered why comic book "villians" dont just say "fuck it" and just shoot someone in the head. Far simpler and more effective than screwing around like that.

Most are insane perhaps?
Just look at the Joker in "The killing Joke", he has a gun and uses it, the question is what comes out.
Not to mention, Villians who kill Named characters are going to find the hero's (possibly more powerful) friends gunning for them, but in a blood lusted rage (Who wants Superman after you for killing Robin).
Additionally guns do Jack & shit against higher up hero's

(Though strangulation or massive physical pounding would do the trick).

Last but not least, it'd boring pretty fast if every arc ended up with someone being killed

(Hell look at Punisher's rogue gallery then Batman's. Guess which makes more money

)

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2006-11-11 03:24pm

MKSheppard wrote:I've always wondered why comic book "villians" dont just say "fuck it" and just shoot someone in the head. Far simpler and more effective than screwing around like that.

In this case, Aunt May is living inside Stark Towers with a legion of bodyguards outside. He was escorted to the elevator with Aunt May by two armored guards.

You don't go on a shooting spree in front of Stark Towers, the home base of the Avengers.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-11-11 04:27pm

Praxis wrote:In this case, Aunt May is living inside Stark Towers with a legion of bodyguards outside. He was escorted to the elevator with Aunt May by two armored guards.

You don't go on a shooting spree in front of Stark Towers, the home base of the Avengers.

So you wait until you're alone with the target. Jesus, am I the only one who thinks this way? Instead of sitting around eating cookies and crumpets like some stereotypical villian until the most dramatic moment

"HA HA I AM NOT YOUR SON! *manical laugh*"

just drink some milk or something to put the target at ease, then shoot them.

The Grim Squeaker · Post by **The Grim Squeaker** » 2006-11-11 04:34pm

MKSheppard wrote: just drink some milk or something to put the target at ease, then shoot them.

Or eat some cookies

then strangle them (Since weapons would be detected and out of character for the unlicensed spiderman). Y'know like Chameleon planned to do

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Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2006-11-11 04:53pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Praxis wrote:In this case, Aunt May is living inside Stark Towers with a legion of bodyguards outside. He was escorted to the elevator with Aunt May by two armored guards.

You don't go on a shooting spree in front of Stark Towers, the home base of the Avengers.
So you wait until you're alone with the target. Jesus, am I the only one who thinks this way? Instead of sitting around eating cookies and crumpets like some stereotypical villian until the most dramatic moment

"HA HA I AM NOT YOUR SON! *manical laugh*"

just drink some milk or something to put the target at ease, then shoot them.

That's what he was doing. He had cookies and milk to put her at ease.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2006-11-11 05:16pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Praxis wrote:In this case, Aunt May is living inside Stark Towers with a legion of bodyguards outside. He was escorted to the elevator with Aunt May by two armored guards.

You don't go on a shooting spree in front of Stark Towers, the home base of the Avengers.
So you wait until you're alone with the target. Jesus, am I the only one who thinks this way? Instead of sitting around eating cookies and crumpets like some stereotypical villian until the most dramatic moment

"HA HA I AM NOT YOUR SON! *manical laugh*"

just drink some milk or something to put the target at ease, then shoot them.

Sure, because Parker usually carries a gun on his person.

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » 2006-11-11 06:54pm

This discussion of Stark's relationship with Parker has got me thinking: Why did they turn Tony Stark into such a nutter?

That said, Aunt May rocks socks.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2006-11-11 07:03pm

Ford Prefect wrote:This discussion of Stark's relationship with Parker has got me thinking: Why did they turn Tony Stark into such a nutter?

He's honestly always been. Some writers tend to downplay Stark's whacko control freak persona, but others accentuate it. What got to me is that Parker trusts Tony so easily because JMS forced the story in that direction.

The differences between the two are rather large and gaping when looking at their histories.

That said, Aunt May rocks socks.

It was fun to see a May that didn't fucking get a stroke for the 187th time

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Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » 2006-11-12 05:59am

Ghost Rider wrote: He's honestly always been. Some writers tend to downplay Stark's whacko control freak persona, but others accentuate it. What got to me is that Parker trusts Tony so easily because JMS forced the story in that direction.

The differences between the two are rather large and gaping when looking at their histories.

Yeah, you have a point, but since the Civil War, he's seemed less of a control freak and more of a complete and utter nutbag. I mean, has he cackled yet? Seriously. If what I'm reading is correct, Tony Stark having a good long cackle while pushing his finger tips together Mr. Burns style would be highly appropriate.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2006-11-12 06:51am

erm Tony why exactly are we building a new avenger's complex insdie a volcano with tanks of gentically engineered parahna?

shut up more Bushmills, and get me friggin sharks with laser beams not mutated pirahnas.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2006-11-12 07:27am

I believe Tony has failsafes in all his armors, so they can be shutdown in emergencies. Not sure about the Extremis armor though. He's had armor stolen and used to commit crimes atleast once, had a baddie take control of one while Tony was wearing it, atleast once, and has had to fight his best friend in one once. His secretary has the control to shut his armors down. Let's hope she gets her raises.

And they made Tony nutty because the alcoholism angle isn't edgey anymore. That and after he lost his business, his friends, his fortunes and ended up as a bum on the streets of NYC, its kind of hard to go any lower.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2006-11-12 11:28am

TheDarkling wrote:The Iron Spider costume isn't going to last long now that Parker and Stark are on the outs, the word is that we are seeing a return to the black costume around the time of the film coming out.

Is Spiderman taking back the black costume design from Venom? I've always liked that costume.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2006-11-12 12:59pm

Lord Poe wrote:
TheDarkling wrote:The Iron Spider costume isn't going to last long now that Parker and Stark are on the outs, the word is that we are seeing a return to the black costume around the time of the film coming out.
Is Spiderman taking back the black costume design from Venom? I've always liked that costume.

You actually think Petey's going to start wearing the symbiont again? He did don a a regular version of that costume after losing the symbiont, but stopped wearing it because MJ was creeped out.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2006-11-12 01:48pm

Lord Poe wrote: Is Spiderman taking back the black costume design from Venom? I've always liked that costume.

It is supposed to represent his mood because of the events of the civil war.

Since Venom now works for the US government maybe could trademark the look and sue Parker.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2006-11-12 03:36pm

TheDarkling wrote:
Lord Poe wrote: Is Spiderman taking back the black costume design from Venom? I've always liked that costume.
It is supposed to represent his mood because of the events of the civil war.

Since Venom now works for the US government maybe could trademark the look and sue Parker.

Sure, and then Carol Danvers will counter-sue.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2006-11-12 08:36pm

Damnit, I LIKE the red-and-gold Spidey costume! It's shiny!

Why does nothing ever change? Is the new costume unpopular or something? The cloaking-ability so it could look like the original was a nice touch for fans of the classics, too...

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2006-11-12 09:22pm

My problem with the new suit is what writers have done with it. I don't mind the design so much, but it has basicly made Peter nigh-invulnerable and lets writers pull powers out of a hat.

For example, in Sensational Spider-Man #30, he fights Electro, and is able to use the suit to loop back Electro's electricity into himself.

Heck, it seems all the recent issues have been excuses to throw old villains at Spidey and have them kick their butt with ease because of some gimmick the new suit has. Doc Ock? They both have arms. Molten Man? Beat him up with the robot arms from a distance. Scarecrow? Mysterio? The suit filters out gas so he can't be drugged or knocked out and the eyes have sensors so he can pick out the real Mysterio.

It doesn't remain consistant, either; his suit sensors can pick up Electro from a couple city blocks away, but he can't detect Molten Man, Wil-O'-The-Wisp, and Scarecrow sitting in the next room waiting for him.

I don't mind the suit itself, but they've taken the swiss-army-knife mentality to the extreme, with the suit developing a new ability every other issue.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2006-11-12 10:47pm

Praxis wrote:My problem with the new suit is what writers have done with it. I don't mind the design so much, but it has basicly made Peter nigh-invulnerable and lets writers pull powers out of a hat.

For example, in Sensational Spider-Man #30, he fights Electro, and is able to use the suit to loop back Electro's electricity into himself.

Heck, it seems all the recent issues have been excuses to throw old villains at Spidey and have them kick their butt with ease because of some gimmick the new suit has. Doc Ock? They both have arms. Molten Man? Beat him up with the robot arms from a distance. Scarecrow? Mysterio? The suit filters out gas so he can't be drugged or knocked out and the eyes have sensors so he can pick out the real Mysterio.

It doesn't remain consistant, either; his suit sensors can pick up Electro from a couple city blocks away, but he can't detect Molten Man, Wil-O'-The-Wisp, and Scarecrow sitting in the next room waiting for him.

I don't mind the suit itself, but they've taken the swiss-army-knife mentality to the extreme, with the suit developing a new ability every other issue.

Ah...all I'd seen was the gliding, armor, arms and cloaking.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2006-11-13 03:16pm

Also, those spider legs aren't supposed to be combat capable. Tony claimed that they were too delicate for that stuff. Yet, Spidey used them to smash the Titanium Man's helmet sensors.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2006-11-13 04:26pm

Not to mention crush the Molten Man's throat. The guy who's body tissues are metallic, who can lift 40 tons easily, and whose skin emits enough heat to ignite on fire. And the robot arms had him pinned against the wall strangling him till he begged for mercy. "Fragile robot arms" my foot.

Ah...all I'd seen was the gliding, armor, arms and cloaking.

Don't get me wrong- I actually like the new suit as well. If they had stuck with just those powers I'd be fine with it. As it is I hope he keeps the new design. But the way he's pulling new abilities out of his hat and easily kicking the butt of even his most feared villains is just ridiculous.

I mean, he took out THREE Mysterios, Electro, Chameleon, Molten Man, Wil-O-The-Wisp, Scarecrow, Swarm, Doctor Octopus, and Rhino with ease over the course of a few issues, and most of the time with complete ease while laughing about it. Doc Ock and Molten Man were the only ones that actually succeeded in hitting him once...