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Darth Servo wrote:

Master of Ossus wrote:

Ender wrote:So what, what is he gonna do, write nasty posts in his blog while you are busy fucking your girlfriend?

Dark Moose banned me at the drop of a hat after I accused him of misquoting me (with evidence, I might add). He's not above using the ban function in an effort to remove people who he doesn't like.

THATS why you were banned? What an asshole. Isn't there ANY way to report this abuse of power?

Something like that came up once. The defense of the mods thee was that there was nothing in their terms that said they were held to higher standards of integrity or some such and thus they could do as they please.

Darth Servo wrote:THATS why you were banned? What an asshole. Isn't there ANY way to report this abuse of power?

I did report it, actually. What happened was this:

He misquoted me and used that misquote to accuse me of flaming another member.

I replied that he was misquoting me, and my comments were not intended as a flame, but apologized for any offense I might have caused.

Dark Moose ordered me not to talk about the moderation of the website on the thread, and instructed me to go to Forum Feedback if I wanted to discuss it.

I brought it up in forum feedback, and pointed out that I had been misquoted.

Dark Moose became MASSIVELY belligerent and started saying that I had been running around the boards flaming everyone in sight, using sock puppets, etc.

I said that I hadn't done any of that, and asked him to quote me when I was flaming someone.

Dark Moose brough up the misquote (again).

I pointed out that I had disputed that claim.

Dark Moose said I was never going to understand.

I said that his stating that violated their TOS regarding flaming (ie. accusing another member of being incapable of understanding something).

Dark Moose banned me.

I appealed the ban by beginning another thread.

Dark Moose pointed out that the TOS allowed for mods and admins to ban people at any time for any reason.

Dark Moose IP banned me.

The thread in which the original incident happened was deleted.

Ender wrote:Something like that came up once. The defense of the mods thee was that there was nothing in their terms that said they were held to higher standards of integrity or some such and thus they could do as they please.

was this the site admin saying this or the DM himself?

Since when does "no higher standards" mean "no standards at all"?

Darth Servo wrote:

Master of Ossus wrote:

Ender wrote:So what, what is he gonna do, write nasty posts in his blog while you are busy fucking your girlfriend?

Dark Moose banned me at the drop of a hat after I accused him of misquoting me (with evidence, I might add). He's not above using the ban function in an effort to remove people who he doesn't like.

THATS why you were banned? What an asshole. Isn't there ANY way to report this abuse of power?

Nope. If you make any mention of it in Forum Feedback, you get laughed down as "calling abuse of power on the Mods." Either you get mocked by the Mod community in general, or their legions of cronies do it for them (this assuming you don't get banned for speaking out.) Believe me, this seems to happen a lot, and I used to be one of the deriders, making fun of the people who called foul. Only now do I understand that they actually had real complaints and greviances, covered up by the Administrators and other Mods. In short, I can't think of anyway you could actually effectively get a point across to those who could do something about it. Pabawan is almost as bad as DM, Bonnie seems to believe Moderators in favor of their decryer's most of the time. The other Admin, Ghent, is hardly ever around, although he does seem to be the most reasonable of the lot.

Darth Servo wrote:

Ender wrote:Something like that came up once. The defense of the mods thee was that there was nothing in their terms that said they were held to higher standards of integrity or some such and thus they could do as they please.

was this the site admin saying this or the DM himself?

Since when does "no higher standards" mean "no standards at all"?

Apparently since their TOS state:

StarWars.com TOS wrote:Lucas reserves the right to prevent you from submitting Materials to Forums and to edit, restrict or remove such Messages for any reason at any time.

And:

You agree that Lucas, in its sole discretion, may terminate any account (or any part thereof) you may have with us or use of the Site and remove and discard all or any part of your account or any Submissions, for any reason whatsoever in Lucas’s sole discretion.

Yeap. That's the only thing DM cited when he banned me. He couldn't even find a violation that I had committed.

You've got to be fucking kidding me with this. I had no idea you got banned MoO, did this happen just today or something?

Deep down, I think they all know they're full of shit, except they're either too proud or too bitter to admit it. Hell, the god-damned authors know it as well. Both Traviss and Kaufman haven't posted in that thread for several pages now, and the only time they did was when RK acted like a spoiled brat over the mis-spelling of his name.

apocolypse wrote:You've got to be fucking kidding me with this. I had no idea you got banned MoO, did this happen just today or something?

I've been banned for ages from that website. IIRC, it was about the Executor length. I swear it's like the whole board over there had a hard-on for the "fact" that the Executor was only five miles long, and that no visual evidence could possibly debunk.

Deep down, I think they all know they're full of shit, except they're either too proud or too bitter to admit it. Hell, the god-damned authors know it as well. Both Traviss and Kaufman haven't posted in that thread for several pages now, and the only time they did was when RK acted like a spoiled brat over the mis-spelling of his name.

That was RIDICULOUS. What does he care?

I still say you should slam the authors from the continuity and self-consistency angle. Don't say, "It's not realistic!" tell the morons that what they are saying flies in the face of everything else that is shown in most other EU sources. Not to mention the movies, novelizations, and Clone Wars cartoon. Say that the laws of physics are well established within the world, and that it degrades the story when these are not kept self-consistent. Lightsabers exist, as does FTL travel, and incredible power generation and materials science capabilites (see Death Star). However, people don't fly, chopping someone's head off is lethal, Clones are not inmensely superior to Droids, and the bullshit they are spewing out does not jive with everything else.[/i]

Master of Ossus wrote:I've been banned for ages from that website. IIRC, it was about the Executor length. I swear it's like the whole board over there had a hard-on for the "fact" that the Executor was only five miles long, and that no visual evidence could possibly debunk.

Oh, I thought that they perma-banned you. Still, even a temp ban over something they can't even prove is pretty childish.

That was RIDICULOUS. What does he care?

I don't think he really does. He just knows that the numbers are bunk, you've consistently proved this in the thread yourself. I think the whole post was just purely out of spite.

apocolypse wrote:

Master of Ossus wrote:I've been banned for ages from that website. IIRC, it was about the Executor length. I swear it's like the whole board over there had a hard-on for the "fact" that the Executor was only five miles long, and that no visual evidence could possibly debunk.

Oh, I thought that they perma-banned you. Still, even a temp ban over something they can't even prove is pretty childish.

No, I am perma-banned. In fact, my entire IP is perma-banned, so I can't even start another account.

Master of Ossus wrote:

apocolypse wrote:

Master of Ossus wrote:I've been banned for ages from that website. IIRC, it was about the Executor length. I swear it's like the whole board over there had a hard-on for the "fact" that the Executor was only five miles long, and that no visual evidence could possibly debunk.

Oh, I thought that they perma-banned you. Still, even a temp ban over something they can't even prove is pretty childish.

No, I am perma-banned. In fact, my entire IP is perma-banned, so I can't even start another account.

Wait...my bad. I just figured that the Master of Ossus posting over at TFN was actually you. I guess that's my n00b moment of the day.

apocolypse wrote:

Master of Ossus wrote:

apocolypse wrote: Oh, I thought that they perma-banned you. Still, even a temp ban over something they can't even prove is pretty childish.

No, I am perma-banned. In fact, my entire IP is perma-banned, so I can't even start another account.

Wait...my bad. I just figured that the Master of Ossus posting over at TFN was actually you. I guess that's my n00b moment of the day.

He was banned at TOS. No idea about TFN

Ender wrote:

apocolypse wrote:Wait...my bad. I just figured that the Master of Ossus posting over at TFN was actually you. I guess that's my n00b moment of the day.

He was banned at TOS. No idea about TFN

I'm schooling them at TFN, but I was banned from SW.com. Dark Moose, to my knowledge, does not post at SW.com.

Master of Ossus wrote:

Ender wrote:

apocolypse wrote:Wait...my bad. I just figured that the Master of Ossus posting over at TFN was actually you. I guess that's my n00b moment of the day.

He was banned at TOS. No idea about TFN

I'm schooling them at TFN, but I was banned from SW.com. Dark Moose, to my knowledge, does not post at SW.com.

I thought you were talking about being banned from TFN this whole time. Sorry for the mistake.

apocolypse wrote:I thought you were talking about being banned from TFN this whole time. Sorry for the mistake.

Actually, you shouldn't have a lot of confidence in the TFN mod team either, and there had been innocent victims. Still, compared to SW.com as I hear it, it seems like TFN is heaven itself.