Lord Zentei wrote:Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:I still believe that the civs from the Stryker-verse should be on that list, namely the Illithids somewhere between the Galactic Empire and the IoM, the Alliance of Free Peoples under the Peacekeepers, and the Corthai Combine just under them.
I won't stretch my luck and try to include the Noah-verse or the New World trilogy...
I have no objection to including any of them; it's just that I haven't read them, and am hoping to go on more than gut feeling. Do you have some data on number of planets, firepower and tactical range of ships and FTL speeds? Any special limitations (like the IoM not really knowing how their tech works or the Zentraedi not being able to build/repair their toys)?
The Illithid Empire has naval weapons that range from 60 Gigatons with a 1-second refire rate, to 1 Teraton main guns, and engage at ranges of a few hundred kilometres normally.("The Warrior, the Pawn, Vol. 1").
They have fast enough FTL to cross the Milky Way in six months("Stryker's Standoff"), but the new Wormhole Network within their territory allows travel between any core worlds and many colony-worlds within minutes("The Warrior, the Pawn, Vol. 2").
They have in the hundreds of thousands of vessels, the industrial capacity to build 3,000 ships in about 4 months during wartime even while repairing other fleets, and between 20 and 50 thousand planets.("The Warrior, the Pawn, Vol. 2")
Their STL drives csan actually accelerate in FTL, twice the speed of light.("Stryker's Gambit")
In addition, they have excellent ground combat technology, above Star Wars, with hordes of genetically-engineered, perfectly loyal warriors who can survive kiloton-level explosions a couple hundred yards away, and super-soldiers capable of recovering from direct megaton-level explosions and be at full combat efficiency within hours.("Skirmish")
They are all incredibally intelligent, with the retarded miner smarter than most humans, and natural psychic powers good enough to control most peoples' minds, levitate, and stun creatures near them(Generic canonical information).
The Alliance of Free Peoples, while much weaker than the Illithids, can reasonably fight individual skirmishes and win while sustaining greater casualties(Generic canonical information), suggesting low-gigaton naval weaponry. They can cross the galaxy in a couple years, and get to 75% of the speed of light with their STL drives, though they can only engage in combat reasonably at up to 40% of c. They have a few thousand worlds, and ten of thousands of ships.(Generic canonical information)
The Corthai Combine was formerly equal to the Alliance, however, since the Saurons joined the Alliance and the Alliance's subsequent counter-attack on them, they are about half the strength of the Alliance.
As for the Noah-verse and New World, the Noah-verse has lightminute-sized ships, the strength to destroy and build stars as a mundane task, galaxy-destroying superweapons, and quadrillions of ships which can survive indefinitely within the heart of a star and can fire at eachother from different galaxies.
The New World-trilogy humanity has about 100 ships with kiloton-level nukes, multi-gigawatt X-Ray lasers, and though they have only just reverse-engineered FTL tech, it seems to be able to travel 1 lightyear per minute. They engage at the range of a few kilometres. Their current flagship has a main gun which converts 750 grams of matter and anti-matter into energy with 99.999% efficiency. Their enemies, the Rajha, are more advanced, but their industrial capacity, territory, ship-count, etc. are unknown so I can't really include them.
-- Asuka
