[STGOD 2] Nations and Military

[Raxmei]

Pablo, I intend on making my nation's primary export high-tech electronics (computers, fledgeling A.I.s, that sort of thing.) I would like to declare that as my "civilization advantage-" superior electronics (think Japan In Space.) Since you are taking the "Largest Trading Power" civilizatrion advantage, would you mind if I took the "Best Electronics" civ advantage?

My civ and Seggybop's are composed of sentient artificial intelligences. I had been planning to have a lead there.

[Alyrium Denryle]

I take Best Biotech(our food is high quality, and we can genemod you into fish people should we so choose ) and Highly Above Average Particle Acceleration Tech as my nations advantages.

[Thirdfain]

Ok, how about consumer/military stuff- tactical computers, targetting computers, intricate stuff like magnetic field redirection Particle Beam turrets...

[Pablo Sanchez]

Since you are taking the "Largest Trading Power" civilizatrion advantage, would you mind if I took the "Best Electronics" civ advantage?

That's fine with me, but I don't think that's mine to give. You have to flesh it out with the others. The trading state thing came easy, I guess

[Sea Skimmer]

Well, our food requirements are minimum(oh the glory of being ectothermic and 1 fourth the size of the average human) and

And you still can match the brainpower of other species?

our ships refuel themselves....

Please do explain how they manage that. Need I remind you of your pervious "onboard anti matter manufacturing" nonsense?

[Raxmei]

Interstellar hydrogen is a lot more rarefied than Alyrium thinks it is. Ramscoops aren't worth the bother except in highly specialized circumstances.

EDIT: A cubic kilometer of interstellar medium will get you a whole 2 grams of fuel.

[Sea Skimmer]

Its fine for people to claim these advantage just as long as you keep in mind that while you might be OVERALL better in a field other powers WILL be able to beat you at a more specific level.

The Federation of the Shadow has a considerable advantage in construction and heavy manufacturing. The manufacturing and construction is a natural outgrowth of the vast numbers of mindless commie Nerubian and the fact that they've lived in giant underground cities for thousands of years while having the help of lots of technologically innovative Scythian. The Federation also has several mithrail based alloys of exceptional strength.

[Sea Skimmer]

Interstellar hydrogen is a lot more rarefied than Alyrium thinks it is. Ramscoops aren't worth the bother except in highly specialized circumstances.

If that is his plan, I can't find anything in his OOB to say what it is, then it will not work. You'd need to move at fraction C speeds to collect enough just to keep life support running.

That's fine with me, but I don't think that's mine to give. You have to flesh it out with the others. The trading state thing came easy, I guess

Indeed it is a natural outgrowth of your civilizations history. Which is what any claimed advantage should be.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Well, our food requirements are minimum(oh the glory of being ectothermic and 1 fourth the size of the average human) and

And you still can match the brainpower of other species?

our ships refuel themselves....

Please do explain how they manage that. Need I remind you of your pervious "onboard anti matter manufacturing" nonsense?

I was going with the ramscoop idea for refueling. But...Again , I am in the conseptual stage of some of this

But, we are warm bodied ecotherms. We can go into a torpor should we need to, and simply require less food due to small size

Note on warm bodied ectotherms: It is completely possible for a species to be warm bodied and still ectothermic. They generate some body heat that is produced through shivering and physical activity. Through this process they manage to keep their body temperature more or less constant(within 1 or 2 degrees of optimal), and these activities are automatic, and hardly noticed. Allowing for bain development

Note: Roleplaying idea, I plan on having them make first contact with few of the star nations. Roleplay it when they start quivering for no apparant reason.

Essentially they are 1 step away from being fully endothermic.

I may have to rework the specifis of their dimensions, but their bones are hollow to allow for gliding, and they. I may change their stature a little(disproportionally large heads and all)

[Sea Skimmer]

I was going with the ramscoop idea for refueling. But...Again , I am in the conseptual stage of some of this

Do not attempt to use that unless you wish to run out of fuel after a few days of gameplay, use tankers and properlly fuel you vesses like everyone else.

I may have to rework the specifis of their dimensions, but their bones are hollow to allow for gliding, and they. I may change their stature a little(disproportionally large heads and all)

An oversized head would unbalance you in flight.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Interstellar hydrogen is a lot more rarefied than Alyrium thinks it is. Ramscoops aren't worth the bother except in highly specialized circumstances.

EDIT: A cubic kilometer of interstellar medium will get you a whole 2 grams of fuel.

eek...scratch that idea

[Alyrium Denryle]

I was going with the ramscoop idea for refueling. But...Again , I am in the conseptual stage of some of this

Do not attempt to use that unless you wish to run out of fuel after a few days of gameplay, use tankers and properlly fuel you vesses like everyone else.

I may have to rework the specifis of their dimensions, but their bones are hollow to allow for gliding, and they. I may change their stature a little(disproportionally large heads and all)

An oversized head would unbalance you in flight, and it would be extremely disproportionate.

I know, I am reworking their dimensions.

[Thirdfain]

Primary description rewritten, changed to largest exporter of military weapons and technology, due to the TSC's history of intense conflict. Advantages, slightly more efficient combat electronics and readily available munitions for trade or usage.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Thirdfain, I would like to have made first contact with an alien species with your nation...seeing as how you are one of the closest to us..

[Sea Skimmer]

Who is what in this STGOD

I think I'm missing a few so those not on the list please say something.


The Federation of the Shadow: Sea Skimmer
United Communist Sector: JediNeophyte
GENEGINEER PROTECTORATE: Stravo
The Caliphate: Pablo Sanchez
The Hive: Spyder
New Krytosian Star Empire: Darksider
The Ul'Syrdyn: The Yosemite Bear
Draconis Republic: Alyrium Denryle
Several: Raxmei
The guu: Seggybop
Three Suns Commonwealth: Thirdfain

[Beowulf]

Who is what in this STGOD

I think I'm missing a few so those not on the list please say something.


The Federation of the Shadow: Sea Skimmer
United Communist Sector: JediNeophyte
GENEGINEER PROTECTORATE: Stravo
The Caliphate: Pablo Sanchez
The Hive: Spyder
New Krytosian Star Empire: Darksider
The Ul'Syrdyn: The Yosemite Bear
Draconis Republic: Alyrium Denryle
Several: Raxmei
The guu: Seggybop
Three Suns Commonwealth: Thirdfain

Star Empire of Rokugan: Beowulf
Sota 'Rhi: Stormbringer

[Sea Skimmer]

Primary description rewritten, changed to largest exporter of military weapons and technology, due to the TSC's history of intense conflict. Advantages, slightly more efficient combat electronics and readily available munitions for trade or usage.

That not an advantage that would last very long. The demands of peacetime, and even the demands of other nations at war are a small fraction of what a developed nation would be churning out for its own wartime needs.

[Thirdfain]

That not an advantage that would last very long. The demands of peacetime, and even the demands of other nations at war are a small fraction of what a developed nation would be churning out for its own wartime needs.

Tell that to the USA- huge income from munitions sales, and plenty of guns and ammo when the war comes around.

Never the less, you are right. Factories would still need to be put on a wartime footing.

[Stravo]

Have updated the Genegineer Protecorate entry to now include Ground troops and units and the naval portion now includes escort vessels. now all I need to do is update for actual weapons loadouts on the warships.

[Raxmei]

I take Best Biotech(our food is high quality, and we can genemod you into fish people should we so choose ) and Highly Above Average Particle Acceleration Tech as my nations advantages.

The Genegineer Protectorate might challenge your claim to best biotech.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Perhaps they will. And if they do, negotiations will take place.

[Sea Skimmer]

Tell that to the USA- huge income from munitions sales, and plenty of guns and ammo when the war comes around.

The US produced munitions in 1943 worth over 500 times what it produced in 1941, and that’s counting quite a bit of lend lease related equipment. Currently US arms exports are less then 10 billion a year.

You see the disparity?

[Thirdfain]

The produced munitions in 1943 worth over 500 times what it produced in 1941, and that’s counting lend lease. Now a days US arms exports are less then 10 billion a year.

Ok. So, I have a slighly better infrastructure in that respect- a small advantage.

[Sea Skimmer]

Ok. So, I have a slighly better infrastructure in that respect- a small advantage.

And you can sell of whatever surplus stocks you have left over for an almost pure profit, though I doubt anyone would be interested.

[Brother-Captain Gaius]

Well, I guess I'll jump on the bandwagon and look at "civ advantages". As an extension of Russia (and to some extent China) I'd like to have relatively advanced spaceflight technology. The Kremlin system is also wartorn and is thus highly militaristic and pumps out conscripts and guns, as noted in my declaration.