More Trektardism

Aratech · Post by **Aratech** » 2008-04-21 08:26pm

Good freaking God. Our dear little Husker, ever the Troll, decided to go and 'bump' the original, 227 page long thread... in spite of the fact that there are three other threads on the exact same subject going.

Jesus, that kid needs a life. This little vendetta of his cannot possibly be healthy.

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2008-04-21 08:59pm

For future reference, how strong are the Daleks? I have heard that they have ships that can destroy planets, but I dont know anything about them individually, I have heard that one Dalek can conquer a planet, but I dont know much beyond that.

I dont question that they would win against Trek, I just would like a bit more info is all.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2008-04-21 09:00pm

Um-welcome to the Trek side of the vs debate these days?

Aratech · Post by **Aratech** » 2008-04-21 09:23pm

Darth Ruinus wrote:For future reference, how strong are the Daleks? I have heard that they have ships that can destroy planets, but I dont know anything about them individually, I have heard that one Dalek can conquer a planet, but I dont know much beyond that.

I dont question that they would win against Trek, I just would like a bit more info is all.

A standard Dalek trooper in "Dalek" casually slaugthered several hundred American Marines unloading G-3 rifles at it, and that's the least impressive feat in that episode. The Dalek was hurled through a time vortex that the Doctor says should have destroyed it, went through atmospheric reentry, hit the earth, and burned in its crater for three days. It then spent the next fifty years being passed around to private collectors who had no idea what the hell it was, aside from the fact that it was an alien.

Upon acquiring the energy to escape, the Dalek busts out of its containment unit, hacks a 1,000,000,000 combination lock in half a second, before draining 1/3rd of the Continental U.S. of power and downloading the internet in its entirety in about five seconds. The Doc sums the situation up pretty well in this conversation:

American Cloak and Dagger type: "How bad's the situation?"

Doctor: "Nearest city?"

ACD: "Salt lake."

Doc: "Population?"

ACD: "Two million."

Doc: "All dead."

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2008-04-21 09:31pm

Aratech wrote:
American Cloak and Dagger type: "How bad's the situation?"

Doctor: "Nearest city?"

ACD: "Salt lake."

Doc: "Population?"

ACD: "Two million."

Doc: "All dead."

I need to watch this show.

Aratech · Post by **Aratech** » 2008-04-21 09:46pm

Darth Ruinus wrote:
I need to watch this show.

It's a good show. The important thing to remember though, is that that was a rank and file grunt. Higher end ones, like the Cult of Skareo Daleks, were hinted to have star cracking power, as well as personal time travel machines built into their armor.

And, well, see for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYARnv2F ... re=related

EnterpriseSovereign · Post by **EnterpriseSovereign** » 2008-04-21 09:51pm

Aratech wrote:Good freaking God. Our dear little Husker, ever the Troll, decided to go and 'bump' the original, 227 page long thread... in spite of the fact that there are three other threads on the exact same subject going.

Jesus, that kid needs a life. This little vendetta of his cannot possibly be healthy.

Funny thing is, he ran there and declared victory even though he never answered my latest set of rebuttals

Aratech · Post by **Aratech** » 2008-04-21 09:54pm

EnterpriseSovereign wrote:
Aratech wrote:Good freaking God. Our dear little Husker, ever the Troll, decided to go and 'bump' the original, 227 page long thread... in spite of the fact that there are three other threads on the exact same subject going.

Jesus, that kid needs a life. This little vendetta of his cannot possibly be healthy.
Funny thing is, he ran there and declared victory even though he never answered my latest set of rebuttals

You know, I wanna have at this little turd. I'll challenge him to a live, recorded debate between the two of us, in the company of a neutral panel of judges. Think he'll bite?

EnterpriseSovereign · Post by **EnterpriseSovereign** » 2008-04-21 09:57pm

Aratech wrote:
EnterpriseSovereign wrote:
Aratech wrote:Good freaking God. Our dear little Husker, ever the Troll, decided to go and 'bump' the original, 227 page long thread... in spite of the fact that there are three other threads on the exact same subject going.

Jesus, that kid needs a life. This little vendetta of his cannot possibly be healthy.
Funny thing is, he ran there and declared victory even though he never answered my latest set of rebuttals
You know, I wanna have at this little turd. I'll challenge him to a live, recorded debate between the two of us, in the company of a neutral panel of judges. Think he'll bite?

Given that he challenged me then left my response unanswered, I think he'll bite, then run away and declare victory. And he'll accuse anyone who disagrees with him of being an uber-warsie

Aratech · Post by **Aratech** » 2008-04-21 09:59pm

EnterpriseSovereign wrote: Given that he challenged me then left my response unanswered, I think he'll bite, then run away and declare victory. And he'll accuse anyone who disagrees with him of being an uber-warsie

Ahh, but that's where the recorded part comes in. We're free to stick it up on youtube and humiliate him till Armageddon cometh.

EnterpriseSovereign · Post by **EnterpriseSovereign** » 2008-04-21 10:02pm

Aratech wrote:
EnterpriseSovereign wrote: Given that he challenged me then left my response unanswered, I think he'll bite, then run away and declare victory. And he'll accuse anyone who disagrees with him of being an uber-warsie
Ahh, but that's where the recorded part comes in. We're free to stick it up on youtube and humiliate him till Armageddon cometh.

Ah, I get it, this I've got to see

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2008-04-21 10:11pm

Aratech wrote:It's a good show. The important thing to remember though, is that that was a rank and file grunt. Higher end ones, like the Cult of Skareo Daleks, were hinted to have star cracking power, as well as personal time travel machines built into their armor.

And, well, see for yourself.

Please. The Doctor's hyperbole is not evidence, and the time travel they have is dodgey and totally fucks their power supply. They're a race of evil genius nazis, they're not Superman.

Aratech · Post by **Aratech** » 2008-04-21 10:14pm

Stark wrote:
Aratech wrote:It's a good show. The important thing to remember though, is that that was a rank and file grunt. Higher end ones, like the Cult of Skareo Daleks, were hinted to have star cracking power, as well as personal time travel machines built into their armor.

And, well, see for yourself.
Please. The Doctor's hyperbole is not evidence, and the time travel they have is dodgey and totally fucks their power supply. They're a race of evil genius nazis, they're not Superman.

Hmmm, valid point.

....Oh dear, it seems as though spending too much time around the trektards may be rubbing of on me. Do we have a sci-fi equivalent of holy water handy?

The fact remains however, that if you were to stick one or two Dalek soldiers on a UFP ship, my money's going on the moving pepperpots with the tinny British accents.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2008-04-21 10:44pm

Aratech wrote:Good freaking God. Our dear little Husker, ever the Troll, decided to go and 'bump' the original, 227 page long thread... in spite of the fact that there are three other threads on the exact same subject going.

Jesus, that kid needs a life. This little vendetta of his cannot possibly be healthy.

The moron obviously thinks you win a debate by getting in the last word.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2008-04-21 11:08pm

Aratech wrote:The fact remains however, that if you were to stick one or two Dalek soldiers on a UFP ship, my money's going on the moving pepperpots with the tinny British accents.

That's not hard: they're probably immune to smallarm phasers on regular settings and would probably subvert the computer system pretty fast. They don't need time travel to do it.

Ryushikaze · Post by **Ryushikaze** » 2008-04-22 12:54am

Wait, did Freedo just argue that 3D blueprints for a 160 Km station with resolution down to the meter aren't storage intensive?

And are LESS so because they are holographic?

I've got to just sit lie down and laugh for a minute at that. I can understand these people not knowing physics and chemistry, but to fail so badly at the concept of data storage is just...

I also like how Starfleet being locked out of their own computers by Larry Darryl, Darryl, and Clyde on a regular basis is evidence of GOOD computer security.

If a hacker changes my password, I had shit security. Same principle applies.

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2008-04-22 01:16am

Dude, fucking Freedo is arguing with me that the Romulan Bird of Prey is the same size as the Millenium Falcon, and can therefor do the "hide behind the sensors" trick that it pulled off in TESB.

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2008-04-22 01:36am

Darth Ruinus wrote:Dude, fucking Freedo is arguing with me that the Romulan Bird of Prey is the same size as the Millenium Falcon, and can therefor do the "hide behind the sensors" trick that it pulled off in TESB.

Despite the fact that it doesn't even have the proper shape to hide against the side of the Star Destroyer's bridge, let alone is small enough to go unnoticed, nor would it be very well hidden, considering the fact that its bright green and the Star Destroyer is bone white.

Of course, it could use the cloak, but they can't exactly keep the cloak on forever and there's still going to be energy emmissions.

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2008-04-22 01:47am

Peptuck wrote:Despite the fact that it doesn't even have the proper shape to hide against the side of the Star Destroyer's bridge, let alone is small enough to go unnoticed, nor would it be very well hidden, considering the fact that its bright green and the Star Destroyer is bone white.

Of course, it could use the cloak, but they can't exactly keep the cloak on forever and there's still going to be energy emmissions.

Also never mind the fact that a few shots from the ISDs would cripple and kill it, but hey, that doesn't stop people from arguing it anyways.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2008-04-22 02:08am

Damn it, can't ANY of those retards think rationally? (rhetorical question) What is it though that they think the ISD can't scan ANYTHING behind the bridge tower? Even though Captain Needa explicitly ordered his officers to track the Falcon after it flew over the tower.

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-04-22 02:12am

Looking at Huskers post, it really does seem to me like it supports Mike's theory that they think this is some epic duel.

"This is where I come in and vanquish the tide of darkness!"

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2008-04-22 02:19am

Zablorg wrote:Looking at Huskers post, it really does seem to me like it supports Mike's theory that they think this is some epic duel.

"This is where I come in and vanquish the tide of darkness!"

NEVER!

We shall cover the land in darkness and plunge the world in a new million year dark age!

Blargh! The warsie conspricacy lives on forever! All hail Satan!

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2008-04-22 02:25am

Darth Ruinus wrote:
Peptuck wrote:Despite the fact that it doesn't even have the proper shape to hide against the side of the Star Destroyer's bridge, let alone is small enough to go unnoticed, nor would it be very well hidden, considering the fact that its bright green and the Star Destroyer is bone white.

Of course, it could use the cloak, but they can't exactly keep the cloak on forever and there's still going to be energy emmissions.
Also never mind the fact that a few shots from the ISDs would cripple and kill it, but hey, that doesn't stop people from arguing it anyways.

The worst problem is how the hell they think its going to matter even if the BOP can pull it off. What kind of advantage is it going to give the Klingons or anyone else? Military intelligence? That's the only thing that stowing cloaked ships on the backs of ISDs would give them, and that would just give the intelligence gatherers a much clearer picture of just how absolutely boned they are.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2008-04-22 02:28am

Darth Ruinus wrote:Dude, fucking Freedo is arguing with me that the Romulan Bird of Prey is the same size as the Millenium Falcon, and can therefor do the "hide behind the sensors" trick that it pulled off in TESB.

...

What? That's ten million flavours of stupid.

Peptuck wrote:Despite the fact that it doesn't even have the proper shape to hide against the side of the Star Destroyer's bridge, let alone is small enough to go unnoticed, nor would it be very well hidden, considering the fact that its bright green and the Star Destroyer is bone white.

I'm going to assume he's talking about the far smaller (than the Andy Probert TNG warbird) and white-coloured TOS bird of prey.

Aratech · Post by **Aratech** » 2008-04-22 08:22am

Zablorg wrote:Looking at Huskers post, it really does seem to me like it supports Mike's theory that they think this is some epic duel.

"This is where I come in and vanquish the tide of darkness!"

Clearly suffering from delusions of grandeur. However, you may wish to double check your figures. I think 1.5k worth of antimatter will make a significantly larger than 200 kilojoule bang, considering that's less than one tenth of what an Abrams 120mm has at its disposal.