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Batman wrote:[Um-there's no such thing as the standard RAM. In fact prior to RIM-166 there was no such thing as RAM, period, where the USN was concerned. I can't recall a single real life missile ever being downed by CIWS.]

I think he meant the 21-cell RAM launcher.

Ar-Adunakhor wrote:In that vein, are your modifications adequate? Poke.

Uh, that should be 36 F-35B, probably 12 MV-22 and 6 CH-53K or so (and 3-odd LCACs)

Please come with us, Comrade; we already have a complementary suite prepared for your stay in the Motherland. During your visit you will learn of the glory of both our Battlecruisers and our superiority to the West.

Don't make us replace one of our ships with a CSGN, now, or a refitted BB.

Uraniun235 wrote:

Noble Ire wrote:[Speaking of which, Admiral, I'm assuming Colonel Tychu and I have the entire Brigade at our disposal (I believe around fifteen hundred men) at sea? Or would we keep some units at a base in port?]

[Unless it's infeasible for a reason I'm unaware of, the entire brigade is at your disposal.]

Taking that into consideration, Admiral, I believe I can put forth a tentative distribution roster for the 10th Marines.

LHA-6 Omaha:1,800 Marines
LPD-30 Alamo: 700 Marines
L16 Renown: 480 Marines
CVN-78 Arcadia: 120 Marines
BCGN-5 Harbinger: 80 Marines
D38 Indefatigable: 40 Marines
CG-74 Arclight: 40 Marines
DDG-105 Vengeance: 40 Marines

Colonel Tychu will have direct command over the Marines onboard the Omaha (I assume there will be no problem with assigning him to command from your ship, Captain Phong), Renown, and Alamo. The CO of each ship, of course, will maintain direct jurisdiction over their detachments, although the Colonel and I will retain nominal authority over them as well. Please inform me if there are questions about this arrangement.

[Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for you to report in Tychu.]

phongn wrote:Uh, that should be 36 F-35B

I thought the short takeoff F-35 was deployed in 20-plane squadrons? And the lack of MV-22s was purely due to the massive number of JSFs.

phongn wrote:Don't make us replace one of our ships with a CSGN, now, or a refitted BB.

Bah! Neither can match the superior engineering of the People's battlecruisers! *hurredly plugs leak*

Ar-Adunakhor wrote:[I thought the short takeoff F-35 was deployed in 20-plane squadrons? And the lack of MV-22s was purely due to the massive number of JSFs.

On the real-life LHA(R), maybe - but in our alternate timeline and their huge ships they're getting normal configuration airwings. I don't get any of the fun support aircraft, though, just multirole mud movers.

Bah! Neither can match the superior engineering of the People's battlecruisers! *hurredly plugs leak*

Years ago on SB, IXJac posted a story about a Harpoon game involving the Iowa and Kirov battlegroups. In a series of crazy events he managed to close to gun range (with a somewhat radioactive and half-working battleship)

phongn wrote:On the real-life LHA(R), maybe - but in our alternate timeline and their huge ships they're getting normal configuration airwings. I don't get any of the fun support aircraft, though, just multirole mud movers.

Ah, kay. Fixed up.

phongn wrote:Years ago on SB, IXJac posted a story about a Harpoon game involving the Iowa and Kirov battlegroups. In a series of crazy events he managed to close to gun range

ZomgZ, no way. How in the hell?

phongn wrote:(with a somewhat radioactive and half-working battleship)

Addendum/Edit: There is something that I have been wondering; where is the rest of the HAB? One would think they would be battering down the gates and storming in to rule the task force.

Failing the openings for Supreme Lazy Gunner, Master of Knife Missles and Walking Nuke, I'm up for taking command of a small group of marines (company or some such) seeing as I have no clue as to any navy vessels, helos or fighters.

Tasoth wrote:Failing the openings for Supreme Lazy Gunner, Master of Knife Missles and Walking Nuke, I'm up for taking command of a small group of marines (company or some such) seeing as I have no clue as to any navy vessels, helos or fighters.

I'd invite you to the Vengeance, but from the looks of General Ire's plans, my detachment is only platoon-sized, which is a bit too small if you are looking for a whole company.

Too bad for you. Won't find better rum than on the Vengeance. Unless you want a mojito or some other girly drink. Then you'd have to go to the Hedonism.

Tasoth wrote:Failing the openings for Supreme Lazy Gunner, Master of Knife Missles and Walking Nuke, I'm up for taking command of a small group of marines (company or some such) seeing as I have no clue as to any navy vessels, helos or fighters.

We'll be glad to have you.

I'll wait a bit longer before placing you, though, just to see where you are the most needed. Hell, if Tychu doesn't show up soon, I might give you command of most of the Brigade, if you want it.

Batman wrote:[Um-there's no such thing as the standard RAM. In fact prior to RIM-166 there was no such thing as RAM, period, where the USN was concerned. I can't recall a single real life missile ever being downed by CIWS.]

[I meant to RAM that was attached to the Phalanx radar. I couldn't for the life of me recall what the name of it was.]

phongn wrote:

Vicious wrote:Personally, I carry a 20/72/30 (2x61 VSL cells) loadout, 20 Harpoons/Tomahawks, 72 SAMs/ESSMs and 30 ASROC torpedoes. I never argued that a Tico outgunned the Kirov-class, only that they are comparable in effective offensive armament.

Actually, probably more like 2x64 - the USN deleted the reload crane because it didn't work at sea. You already have 8 Harpoons in canisters; I don't know if you'd need anymore via VL-Harpoon. ESSMs are quadpacked in a cell - and that is a lot of ASROCs.

[Hmm, I wasn't aware of the non-VLS harpoons, nor that ESSM comes quadpacked. As to why so many ASROCs, I don't know why I chose that, really. Just felt like a good number. Still, perhaps I could shuffle it around some. 2x64 = 128 cells. If ESSMs come quad-packed, that means I could probably go 8 cells of ESSMs, 30 Tomahawks, 20 ASROCs, 70 SAMs*. That should give the ship a fair bit of ASuW capability, with a hellacious AAW punch (no offense to the flyboys, but I take AEGIS seriously: Arclight is dedicated to keeping hostiles away from Arcadia. That's her first job. Exacting vengeance is her second. ) and enough ASW coupled with my SH-60Bs that I can plink subs.

Besides, since I can change the loadout if I find that I've got too much of one thing or too little of another, there's not too much to worry about.

Oh, and while we're at it upgrading our ships, I'm gonna go ahead and add a pair of Sea-RAM launchers in place of the Phalanx CIWS.

*SAMs can also be employed against inbound cruise/ballistic ordinance, though not as effectively.]

EDIT: General Ire, it'll be a pleasure to host a platoon (I think that's right) of your fine Marines about Arclight.

I would like to officially request that my class and name be altered on our roster, to better suit the good of the group. I'd like to transfer over to a Seawolf class ship, and re-name her Silence.

Modification details forthcoming...

[Finally came up with a decent last name for my pirate character. Something a bit more dread-inducing than my own name. Got it from a Sims 2 character someone made based off of me, and then got him married to someone with a more threatening last name in order to give Sim-me more cred as a Criminal Mastermind]

Anyway, short history. Currently omitting specific names until the history is finalized. [ally] refers to my character's patron, a yet-to-be-determined somewhat shady ally of the USA. [enemy] refers to whoever the Arcadia will be fighting, which my character's sponsor would be very interested in defeating.

Captain Marcus Langarek of the Pirate ship Vengeance
The presence and deeds of Captain Langarek conjure up pictures of some of the more vicious corsairs of the Americas' colonial days, and his head would fetch a fairly considerable bounty if it were brought to [enemy]. His ship, the Vengeance, was originally the USS Dewey, which the American government loaned out, along with a large amount of other military equipment, to [ally], officially for the purpose of protecting [ally]'s national security. Through the vagaries of paperwork, the Dewey eventually found its way under the command of Marcus Langarek, where she was rechristened with her current name. Officially, Captain Langarek is an officer of [ally]'s navy, though those in the know are well aware that it is little more than a front to give his privateering legitimacy. In truth, [ally] exerts little hold over Langarek's activities, so long as he continues his work in disrupting [enemy]'s activities. And considering the money Captain Langarek receives under the table from the [ally] government, he has little reason not to fulfill his contract.

Will be updated as the universe's backstory gets fleshed out.

First of all:

Surlethe wrote:[I feel obligated to remind you that if your boomer (which may or may not have enough nuclear firepower to glass a sizeable Baltic state) so much as sneezes without the written personal consent of Admiral Christy or his delegated authorities, you will realize just how effective a task force with dedicated ASW ships can be at hunting submarines.]

[As this is a task force made up of several nations' forces, I can guarantee that there will be a great deal of leeway in matters that don't directly compromise the security or effectiveness of the force. The relevent facts about me forming my own independent country were said OOC, and IC I haven't said anything to that effect to anyone who's not on my boat. As far as the rest of the fleet (and almost everyone not aboard the boomer) knows, I'm a loyal officer in the Russian navy, and I can guarantee that they will not look kindly upon you sinking one of their very expensive ships over the disobediance of some minor order (or whatever). IC I will be very careful to keep up appearances, and OOC, I can say that my intentions are entirely honorable. Yes, I intend to eventually seize some land for myself, but it doesn't have to be at the expense of anyone; some uninhabited tropical island will do. But that's far in the future. For now it is very much in my best interests to cooperate with the task force, and I will be doing so. IC you should regard me as a loyal officer unless I do something ridiculous, which I won't. I'm only adding these provisions so that somewhere down the line, someday, there are more possibilities for story. For the foreseeable future, I will definitely be complying with what is expected of me. I'm not going to be running off and going rogue anytime soon at all.]

Ar-Adunakhor wrote:[I feel obligated to inform you that there is no fucking way in hell the US or Russia/USSR would allow you to run around with your very own personal boomer. You would be hunted down like a 17th century fox.]

[And as for you, the day when I finally do declare my independance is the day when the forces of both Russia and America are fallen far from their current levels. Don't gain any misconception that I'm going to be running around merrily nuking people, or even giving that impression. As far as everyone IC is concerned, I'm a good little boy.]

Civil War Man wrote:[And I feel obligated to inform you that the Vengeance and her crew are much closer to being rogue than the Gnisial or whatever you call it, but even the illustrious Captain of the Vengeance would not be stupid enough to go "Eh, I'm not going to follow some of your orders" in the face of a much superior naval force. Now, as a businessman, I may act unilaterally to serve my own interests, but not if it contradicts a direct order coming down from command. There's the Code to consider.]

[I suppose I worded my original post poorly. Rogue is one thing that we're not, right now. However, if I were to be given the order to, say, glass some country, I would have to be very certain that that is exactly what I want to do, as well as confirming it with my Russian masters. There are some things I don't take lightly, even as a fictional character, and massive loss of life is one of those.]

DesertFly wrote:[As this is a task force made up of several nations' forces, I can guarantee that there will be a great deal of leeway in matters that don't directly compromise the security or effectiveness of the force. The relevent facts about me forming my own independent country were said OOC, and IC I haven't said anything to that effect to anyone who's not on my boat. As far as the rest of the fleet (and almost everyone not aboard the boomer) knows, I'm a loyal officer in the Russian navy, and I can guarantee that they will not look kindly upon you sinking one of their very expensive ships over the disobediance of some minor order (or whatever). IC I will be very careful to keep up appearances, and OOC, I can say that my intentions are entirely honorable. Yes, I intend to eventually seize some land for myself, but it doesn't have to be at the expense of anyone; some uninhabited tropical island will do. But that's far in the future. For now it is very much in my best interests to cooperate with the task force, and I will be doing so. IC you should regard me as a loyal officer unless I do something ridiculous, which I won't. I'm only adding these provisions so that somewhere down the line, someday, there are more possibilities for story. For the foreseeable future, I will definitely be complying with what is expected of me. I'm not going to be running off and going rogue anytime soon at all.]

[I would have thought the OOC brackets made it clear that my post was in jest. IC, I do regard you as a loyal member of the task force. Your conquest intentions are interesting, but I don't intend to ruin the game by bringing OOC moments into character.]

Meanwhile, spending most of his time underwater listening to "Ping.... Ping.... Ping... Hey Dude Want To Play Five Card Draw... Shaddap We're Being Stealthy Right Now...", Commander Metaxis is completely oblviious to both the idea of modifying his Russian-made Sub or the idea of infighting in the so-far-aimless taskforce...

phongn wrote:

Surlethe wrote:I just figure, though, that if those damn dirty pinko commies with their big-and-mighty "Heavy Cruiser" decide to do something funny, I'd better be prepared to dish out a can of all-American whooop ass.

I had originally wanted the mighty "maximal" CSGN, complete with mini-flight-deck, but that was veto'ed after we determined that we had way too many surface combatants.

I wish I'd been around here to follow that thread, instead of hiking in the Rocky Mountains -- nahh, actually, I don't. I do wish it hadn't been deleted in Testing, so I could've played a bit of catch-up with the current situation.

Ar-Adunakhor wrote:Please come with us, Comrade; we already have a complementary suite prepared for your stay in the Motherland. During your visit you will learn of the glory of both our Battlecruisers and our superiority to the West.

Admiral Christy, sir: in light of the recent developments in the CIS, may I recommend we obtain a refitted Iowa-class battlewagon for service in CTF-81?

MRDOD wrote:Meanwhile, spending most of his time underwater listening to "Ping.... Ping.... Ping... Hey Dude Want To Play Five Card Draw... Shaddap We're Being Stealthy Right Now...", Commander Metaxis is completely oblviious to both the idea of modifying his Russian-made Sub or the idea of infighting in the so-far-aimless taskforce...

Meanwhile, aboard Arclight Captain Wash listens intently to a pair of headphones being fed from a dipping sonar sitting 10 feet off V. K. Konovalov's port bow. Captain Wash smiles as he hears, faintly, "...being stealthy right now..." come through the headset. His hand inches towards the controls which would trigger the dipping sonar's "active" mode ...

[What? I'm bored and I do have a pair of SH-60Bs for a reason, y'know. ]

Surlethe wrote:

phongn wrote:

Surlethe wrote:I just figure, though, that if those damn dirty pinko commies with their big-and-mighty "Heavy Cruiser" decide to do something funny, I'd better be prepared to dish out a can of all-American whooop ass.

I had originally wanted the mighty "maximal" CSGN, complete with mini-flight-deck, but that was veto'ed after we determined that we had way too many surface combatants.

I wish I'd been around here to follow that thread, instead of hiking in the Rocky Mountains -- nahh, actually, I don't. I do wish it hadn't been deleted in Testing, so I could've played a bit of catch-up with the current situation.

Ar-Adunakhor wrote:Please come with us, Comrade; we already have a complementary suite prepared for your stay in the Motherland. During your visit you will learn of the glory of both our Battlecruisers and our superiority to the West.

Admiral Christy, sir: in light of the recent developments in the CIS, may I recommend we obtain a refitted Iowa-class battlewagon for service in CTF-81?

Honestly, we've got plenty of surface power, and the Iowa would be a big liability without providing enough of a general use to the fleet to make it worthwhile.

Vicious wrote:Honestly, we've got plenty of surface power, and the Iowa would be a big liability without providing enough of a general use to the fleet to make it worthwhile.

[Christ, that's twice today a facetious post of mine hasn't been taken that way.] Captain Schilling, don't you believe we need a nice, big battlewagon flying a nice, big American flag to counteract the influence those damn pinko commies have on our honest seamen? (:P, if you still don't get it ... )

Surlethe wrote:

Vicious wrote:Honestly, we've got plenty of surface power, and the Iowa would be a big liability without providing enough of a general use to the fleet to make it worthwhile.

[Christ, that's twice today a facetious post of mine hasn't been taken that way.] Captain Schilling, don't you believe we need a nice, big battlewagon flying a nice, big American flag to counteract the influence those damn pinko commies have on our honest seamen? (:P, if you still don't get it ... )

Captain Wash, if you please. (Since it looks like we might actually go somewhere with this, I've decided to adopt a fictional name/persona.) As to my misinterpretation of your comment, well the brackets only convey OOC, not necessarilly humor/sarcasm. (smilies are your friend! )

Vicious wrote:Captain Wash, if you please.

My apologies, Captain Wash. [The first page of the thread is decidedly out of date -- hint, hint, Uraniun]

(Since it looks like we might actually go somewhere with this, I've decided to adopt a fictional name/persona.) As to my misinterpretation of your comment, well the brackets only convey OOC, not necessarilly humor/sarcasm. (smilies are your friend! )

[Of course; I was going for dry humor and building off of Phongn's joke above about bringing in a refitted BB. Besides, it's very easy to overuse smilies; I tend to be of the minimalist smiley school.]

Surlethe wrote:
[Of course; I was going for dry humor and building off of Phongn's joke above about bringing in a refitted BB. Besides, it's very easy to overuse smilies; I tend to be of the minimalist smiley school.]

While I quite understand and don't care much for the overuse of smilies, it can be very hard to distinguish between a sarcastic comment and one meant in sincerity without some form of non-textual expression.

Surlethe wrote:

Vicious wrote:Captain Wash, if you please.

My apologies, Captain Wash. [The first page of the thread is decidedly out of date -- hint, hint, Uraniun]

ye gods some of you folks are fickle

I think most of it is still pretty up to date. I changed 'Schilling' to 'Wash', and got the Gnome a Seawolf. What else am I missing?

Uraniun235 wrote:I think most of it is still pretty up to date. I changed 'Schilling' to 'Wash', and got the Gnome a Seawolf. What else am I missing?

You gonna get me my Tico? Pcm and I switched boats about three pages back.