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Posted: 2003-08-04 06:14pm
by Sea Skimmer
Kyle wrote: Everything has been used in STGOD.
I don't think anyone had a flare pistol that could destroy the multiverse.

Posted: 2003-08-04 06:20pm
by SirNitram
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Kyle wrote: Everything has been used in STGOD.
I don't think anyone had a flare pistol that could destroy the multiverse.
We had a pistol that could create a universe around an object then collapse it, obliterating the target.

Posted: 2003-08-04 06:22pm
by Sea Skimmer
SirNitram wrote:
We had a pistol that could create a universe around an object then collapse it, obliterating the target.
I remember that thing, but it wasn't issued as part of every pilot's survival kit.

Posted: 2003-08-04 06:24pm
by SirNitram
Sea Skimmer wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
We had a pistol that could create a universe around an object then collapse it, obliterating the target.
I remember that thing, but it wasn't issued as part of every pilot's survival kit.
The question wasn't whether it was common, it was whether it was used.

Posted: 2003-08-04 06:27pm
by Sea Skimmer
SirNitram wrote:
The question wasn't whether it was common, it was whether it was used.
Picky picky, anyway creating one universe and destroying it isn't quite the same level as destroying all of them. Though I doubt even the destruction of the multiverse is damage beyond repair for the uber characters.

Posted: 2003-08-04 06:27pm
by phongn
Firepower levels still will be quite high, but nothing like superlaser-ignoring inertaless-drive superbattleships running around.

Posted: 2003-08-04 06:38pm
by Sea Skimmer
phongn wrote:Firepower levels still will be quite high, but nothing like superlaser-ignoring inertaless-drive superbattleships running around.
It things like the inertaless drives that I don't like, massive firepower and industrial capacity isn't so bad. When you look at what the Galactic Empire did in secret the huge fleets, even the planetoids aren't that bad. On the other hand, the HAB main fleet is going to be powered by steam and gas turbines along with marine diesels if I don't change my mind so I may be hypocritical.

Posted: 2003-08-04 06:44pm
by HemlockGrey
Been reading 'Foundation', Skimmer?

Posted: 2003-08-04 07:02pm
by Sea Skimmer
HemlockGrey wrote:Been reading 'Foundation', Skimmer?
No but I'm aware of it, diesel powered spaceships correct? I figure running my fleet off bunker fuel isn't any less realistic then reactor cores denser then Neutronium in vessels which can still orbit planets. Though the HAB also uses logic/anti logic annihilation for power.

Posted: 2003-08-04 07:04pm
by Crayz9000
Sea Skimmer wrote:No but I'm aware of it, diesel powered spaceships correct? I figure running my fleet off bunker fuel isn't any less realistic then reactor cores denser then Neutronium in vessels which can still orbit planets. Though the HAB also uses logic/anti logic annihilation for power.
Just don't try making offensive bozon field generators. You *will* regret it later.

Posted: 2003-08-04 08:56pm
by Beowulf
Sea Skimmer wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:Been reading 'Foundation', Skimmer?
No but I'm aware of it, diesel powered spaceships correct? I figure running my fleet off bunker fuel isn't any less realistic then reactor cores denser then Neutronium in vessels which can still orbit planets. Though the HAB also uses logic/anti logic annihilation for power.
Who says you have to burn the diesel?

Posted: 2003-08-04 09:29pm
by Sea Skimmer
Beowulf wrote:
Who says you have to burn the diesel?
:?: Are you suggesting I simply have my fleet powered by nothing? Because that's just silly. :lol:

Posted: 2003-08-04 09:55pm
by Beowulf
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Beowulf wrote:
Who says you have to burn the diesel?
:?: Are you suggesting I simply have my fleet powered by nothing? Because that's just silly. :lol:
I meant that you don't necessarily need to have your fleet powered by IC engines, while still being able to say the you use Diesel fueled ships...

Posted: 2003-08-04 10:17pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Hmm... SHould they just have to think about rending a hole n the fabric of the universe, or should they have to chant a little first... :twisted:

Just kidding...
My evil avatar character did that (him being a creature with the whole dark side at his command--every micron of despair and decay and hated in the living universe adding to his power--and the purpose and will to kill every sentient being in the universe), admittedly during a duel with the strongest single character in the arc whose energies were probably doing more work.

But the Clone Sanchez was probably up there at #3 or so, power wise (discounting omnipotents and near omnipotents).

Posted: 2003-08-05 02:05am
by Alyrium Denryle
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Hmm... SHould they just have to think about rending a hole n the fabric of the universe, or should they have to chant a little first... :twisted:

Just kidding...
My evil avatar character did that (him being a creature with the whole dark side at his command--every micron of despair and decay and hated in the living universe adding to his power--and the purpose and will to kill every sentient being in the universe), admittedly during a duel with the strongest single character in the arc whose energies were probably doing more work.

But the Clone Sanchez was probably up there at #3 or so, power wise (discounting omnipotents and near omnipotents).
I am thinking... Mages and/or psionicists.

No ships, so much as such ndividuals(with power varrying by classification/allowed tech level) moving through space using spells/abilities.

This is what happened if A. Netheril continued to grow and/or B. The Psi corp trancended :twisted:

Posted: 2003-08-06 05:59am
by Raxmei
phongn wrote:The spectrum for inventory went from (1) copper ring to exquisitely detailed orders of battle for imperial warfleets.

Not coincidentially, the person with the ring happened to be the most powerful within his sphere of influence.
If you're referring to brother Kynes, he had a bit more than that in his inventory.

> > One (1) copper ring
> > One (1) brown robe
> > One (1) Universe, and its associated children


Mustn't forget the robe.

Posted: 2003-08-06 12:26pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Raxmei wrote:
phongn wrote:The spectrum for inventory went from (1) copper ring to exquisitely detailed orders of battle for imperial warfleets.

Not coincidentially, the person with the ring happened to be the most powerful within his sphere of influence.
If you're referring to brother Kynes, he had a bit more than that in his inventory.

> > One (1) copper ring
> > One (1) brown robe
> > One (1) Universe, and its associated children


Mustn't forget the robe.
That was after the arms race started.

Posted: 2003-08-06 12:50pm
by phongn
Pablo Sanchez wrote:But the Clone Sanchez was probably up there at #3 or so, power wise (discounting omnipotents and near omnipotents).
Who was the most powerful of the "mortal" characters? Graeme? Halite?

Posted: 2003-08-06 12:51pm
by phongn
Pablo Sanchez wrote:That was after the arms race started.
Yes, before then he wore normal clothes. The robe came later when he could consider himself a cranky old man.

Posted: 2003-08-06 01:05pm
by Pablo Sanchez
phongn wrote:Who was the most powerful of the "mortal" characters? Graeme? Halite?
Probably Uranus (being able to destroy everyone counts highly), followed by Halite, followed by Graeme. So I was maybe #4.

Posted: 2003-08-06 01:21pm
by phongn
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
phongn wrote:Who was the most powerful of the "mortal" characters? Graeme? Halite?
Probably Uranus (being able to destroy everyone counts highly), followed by Halite, followed by Graeme. So I was maybe #4.
Uranus? You mean Saturn?

I might put Graeme over Halite - the latter was only powerful because she turned the souls of a lot of worlds into a powersource for herself. Certainly, if Graeme did that he'd likely be more powerful.

Posted: 2003-08-06 02:01pm
by Pablo Sanchez
phongn wrote:Uranus? You mean Saturn?
Opps.
I might put Graeme over Halite - the latter was only powerful because she turned the souls of a lot of worlds into a powersource for herself. Certainly, if Graeme did that he'd likely be more powerful.
Sure, sure.

Posted: 2003-08-06 02:43pm
by phongn
I might start up a Saturn death cult like your power had in the STGOD2 for awhile.

Posted: 2003-08-06 03:11pm
by Kyle
phongn wrote:
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
phongn wrote:Who was the most powerful of the "mortal" characters? Graeme? Halite?
Probably Uranus (being able to destroy everyone counts highly), followed by Halite, followed by Graeme. So I was maybe #4.
Uranus? You mean Saturn?

I might put Graeme over Halite - the latter was only powerful because she turned the souls of a lot of worlds into a powersource for herself. Certainly, if Graeme did that he'd likely be more powerful.
I'd have to include Kynes in that group too, he always seemd on a par with Graeme.

Posted: 2003-08-06 03:17pm
by phongn
I put Kynes on the low-end of the omnipotents rather than on the superpowered mortals.