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Posted: 2003-04-21 10:43pm
by Crayz9000
Well, first post again. Hah.

OK, this time I have a nitpick: Oberths, as described in ST4, are too small to have proper shuttlebays. They are only 120 meters long at a maximum.

And why weren't the phase-cloaked ships simply called by their Japanese name?

Posted: 2003-04-21 10:45pm
by Captain Cyran
SECOND!

Great chapter Stravo, loved what you did with Vader, loved all the memorable lines "Intensify forward fire power!" "The power of ____ is nothing compared to the power of the force."

Loved the fight as well, very very well done. Can't wait to see if the Shadow Fleet makes it out of this one.

Posted: 2003-04-21 10:50pm
by Ghost Rider
Awesome...loved how you used Vader(the bit about his anger against Luke and yet his love for him...and that being the focus of what he used) As well as his thoughts to killing Thrawn.

Liked how you instituted various federation uber tech as well as the ending.

Keep it coming. :D

Posted: 2003-04-21 10:57pm
by Stravo
Crayz9000 wrote:Well, first post again. Hah.

OK, this time I have a nitpick: Oberths, as described in ST4, are too small to have proper shuttlebays. They are only 120 meters long at a maximum.

And why weren't the phase-cloaked ships simply called by their Japanese name?
These are modified Oberths, and well it just sounds cool.

As to the names, its a treat for those who know what the word means.

Posted: 2003-04-21 11:31pm
by FireNexus
Hehe. Wild Weasel. I like that. :-) Good chapter, Stravo. I can't wait to see the transphasic torpedos fail miserably.

Posted: 2003-04-21 11:35pm
by Ender
So Thrawn brough two SSDs with him, and now the second one was destroyed, or was this the old Victory class Iron Fist?

Posted: 2003-04-21 11:42pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Iron Fist the Victory.

Iron Fist wasn't rechristened by Zsinj until he went Warlord, IIRC.

Posted: 2003-04-21 11:53pm
by Ender
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Iron Fist the Victory.

Iron Fist wasn't rechristened by Zsinj until he went Warlord, IIRC.
Nope, NEGC says he christened it Iron fist and ruled for several years; then says that the Emperor died and he went warlord. Brawl was renammed first.

I'm fine with it being the Vic though. Means my favorite villian isn't dead yet.

Posted: 2003-04-22 12:46am
by Kuja
Hmmm...the Grapple. That's a good name for an Interdictor. :D



It's nice to see Piett in action, Strav. Now he, Jerjerrod, and Thrawn seem to be acting as a better team than earlier.

Posted: 2003-04-22 01:27am
by Darth Yoshi
Wow. Excellent chapter, Stravo.

Nothing like pressure to bring people together, right Iggy?

Posted: 2003-04-22 04:08am
by PeZook
This one was VERY good, Stravo. Few minor nitpicks, though:

1) Wild Weasel is a name for sam-hunting operations. Of course, the Shadow Fleet can simply use the term for something else (it is the 24th century after all ;) )

2) Couldn't imperial ships use their tractor beams against phase-cloaked vessels? They still generate gravity and are influenced by it, as far as I remember.

Posted: 2003-04-22 04:26am
by Vympel
IG-88E wrote:Hmmm...the Grapple. That's a good name for an Interdictor. :D
It's in TIE Fighter, IIRC.

Posted: 2003-04-22 05:42am
by Darth Fanboy
Ender wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Iron Fist the Victory.

Iron Fist wasn't rechristened by Zsinj until he went Warlord, IIRC.
Nope, NEGC says he christened it Iron fist and ruled for several years; then says that the Emperor died and he went warlord. Brawl was renammed first.

I'm fine with it being the Vic though. Means my favorite villian isn't dead yet.
Zsinj was give then SSD Brawler as his command as a reward for interdicting the planet Dathomir. He then rechristend Iron Fist in honour of his first command, an aging VSD.

Posted: 2003-04-22 06:53am
by JodoForce
Why did Jerjerrod and Piett switch places in the intelligence hierarchy? :)

Posted: 2003-04-22 06:57am
by Col. Crackpot
Stravo wrote:“Drop the cloaks, all power to the weapons systems, standby on transphasic torpedo volleys….” He leaned forward slightly. “Alright boys and girls, this is it, we’re in for a knife fight.”
:twisted: :twisted: good stuff man!
and i can't wait to see that sniviling little bitch Piett get his due!

Posted: 2003-04-22 07:16am
by Darth Fanboy
Vader taking out the capship by himself, FUCKING AWESOME. Of course it does use UFP technology so he could have just sneeed in the ships general direction rather than use the force.

Posted: 2003-04-22 09:44am
by Rightous Fist Of Heaven
I dont know about tractors usefullness angainst phase cloaked ships but since SW sensors can detect gravity and mass as seen in NJO several times, shouldnt the Imperials have detected the phase cloaked ships?

An excellent chapter once again, decided to play some theatrical music while reading it allways makes the reading experience better, especially when there are grand battles in the chapter :D

Posted: 2003-04-22 11:31am
by Stravo
Regarding ship names your humble author must admit that as he is a complete ignoramous in regards to the EU after the Jedi Academy and Darksaber books I have no clue about ship names and what they could mean. Frankly I pull most of them out of my ass and if they sound appropriately Imperial they're slapped on a ship. But the Iron Fist was most certainly NOT an SSD. The only SSD's in this story are the Emperor's Will and the Executor. It being a Victory is fine by me, since I wanted them to suffer some casualties from a bigger class ship so without knowing it, it worked out for me. Perhaps I should have pretended to be a genius and say OF COURSE I meant the Victory class fools...but thats just not in me. :D

In regard to the phase cloaks, they were not detected at first because they are cloaks as well, they approached invisibly then dropped the invisible portion of their cloak to sow some fear and confusion among the Imperials. Although having ships explode myseriously might have been even cooler it was not as dramatic as showing why they were exploding so here we have a compromise between reality and drama that every story must face.

Wild Weasel just sounds too cool so I used it.

Piett and Thrawn are starting to gel. Jerjerrod is not as quick on his feet for the simple reason that he's having....problems right now :twisted:

Posted: 2003-04-22 11:58am
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Great!

Posted: 2003-04-22 04:55pm
by lukexcom
Awesome chapter, Stravo! One request, though...

On all that is mighty and holy, for all the planets and moons, for all the tea in China, for all the mercy upon the stars, for all the goodness in our hearts, for all the wrongs that have been made right, for all the dreams that have come true, for all the goodness that has come about...PLEASE, do NOT kill Thrawn! Have him emerge victorious at the end of this magnificent epic! I assure you, millions of lives will improve when you do that. :D

Posted: 2003-04-22 05:50pm
by Stravo
lukexcom wrote:Awesome chapter, Stravo! One request, though...

On all that is mighty and holy, for all the planets and moons, for all the tea in China, for all the mercy upon the stars, for all the goodness in our hearts, for all the wrongs that have been made right, for all the dreams that have come true, for all the goodness that has come about...PLEASE, do NOT kill Thrawn! Have him emerge victorious at the end of this magnificent epic! I assure you, millions of lives will improve when you do that. :D
How could I kill a fellow mod? :wink:

Posted: 2003-04-22 06:26pm
by Ender
Stravo wrote:How could I kill a fellow mod?
With a knife.

Posted: 2003-04-22 06:28pm
by Crayz9000
Ender wrote:With a knife.
No, the lead pipe is always superior. Easier to get rid of, too.

Well, unless you happen to be named Colonel Mustard.

Posted: 2003-04-22 06:29pm
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
Ender wrote:
Stravo wrote:How could I kill a fellow mod?
With a knife.
Damnit you just beat me to it. Get a Noghri, I hear Rukh is really good at assinating Grand Admirals....

Posted: 2003-04-22 06:45pm
by Illuminatus Primus
lukexcom wrote:Have him emerge victorious at the end of this magnificent epic! I assure you, millions of lives will improve when you do that. :D
:evil:

Have him shot like the traitor he is.

:D