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Kanan does say they're in the upper atmosphere, and the Rodians were going around without face masks. Though how they're in atmosphere on a body so small that its gravity isn't pulling asteroids to its surface that are in the atmosphere is a mystery to me.

Really don't like that the creators do not seem to understand what "vacuum" means. Just helmets wouldn't be enough,

I think the vacuum thing can be summed up by what Pablo Hidalgo says in the last rebels recon.


What Pablo Hidalgo says about science in Star Wars really disappoints me. Just because the writers treat Star Wars as being more fantasy then science fiction doesn't mean you cant inject a little science in it every once in a while. It would help the Star Wars universe feel more real and immersive not to mention for these types of things it takes you out of the story because your thinking how the hek is Kannan and Ezra not dying.

To be honest, when I saw the space whales and Ezra's connection, I was half expecting Ezra to start singing to them like Basara in Macross 7. Those whales did have hyperspace/fold capability too....

Is it really that much different from Han, Leia and Chewie trudging around inside the belly of a space slug with nothing but respirator masks?

Maybe Star Wars bases and ships have some sort of artificially-generated atmosphere (in addition to artificial gravity) that allows EVA without bulky spacesuits. It might not supply much breathable air, but it might be enough to protect humanoids from the temperature and radiation of space.

The problem is that Hidalgo is too arrogant to communicate to fans with ideas like this.

The only things that took me beyond disbelief was at the end, where Kanan and Ezra were far beyond the atmosphere. (Though the swooshing Jedi sounds hint at a thin atmosphere...).

I can get behind the asteroid having a thin atmosphere, where a mask is all you need. The fuel may be dense enough that it allows the asteroid to hold on to a man made atmosphere for a little bit. As long as you are not moving around quickly (as Kanan and co were doing while skydiving), then you may not need a rebreather (as the Rodians did not have).

My other gripe is the Mining Guild TIES. From the Old EU, we know that TIES are at a disadvantage in atmosphere. So why does the canon description of the Mining Guild TIES say, "the notches cause less stability", in the nEwU? Maneuverability and stability shouldn't be a factor in space. Can the story telling group worry only about story telling please?

Someone really should tell the writer team that hitting people in armor (even in cheap, plastic-like armor) works worse for the attacker than the target. Yeah, I recall Chewie doing it but Chewie was a large, super-strong Wookie (and what I recall is he hitting two helmets together, shaking the inhabitant's brains). Then again the sole purpose of storm-trooper armor is to make the mooks in them be faceless and thus be dehumanized.

I did like Ezra's and Kanan's double-team moves though.

Well, this week was much, much better story-wise. Though now apparently the Arquitens not only has hangar space for a couple of fighters but can fit a whole damn Sentinel shuttle and an entire flight of TIEs.

Rogue 9 wrote:Well, this week was much, much better story-wise. Though now apparently the Arquitens not only has hangar space for a couple of fighters but can fit a whole damn Sentinel shuttle and an entire flight of TIEs.

Agreed. Between the Aruquitens' hangar capacity and the appearance of yet another Sentinel-class shuttle, this episode might just give Vympel an aneurysm.

Did anyone else notice Hera's accent change when she argued with her father? That was weird.

And Kanan's nervous behavior when meeting Cham for the first time tells me he's letting the Jedi code slide where Hera is concerned. It'll be interesting to see if they actually try to show us a human/alien romance in this show.

Galvatron wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:Well, this week was much, much better story-wise. Though now apparently the Arquitens not only has hangar space for a couple of fighters but can fit a whole damn Sentinel shuttle and an entire flight of TIEs.

Agreed. Between the Aruquitens' hangar capacity and the appearance of yet another Sentinel-class shuttle, this episode might just give Vympel an aneurysm.

Did anyone else notice Hera's accent change when she argued with her father? That was weird.

And Kanan's nervous behavior when meeting Cham for the first time tells me he's letting the Jedi code slide where Hera is concerned. It'll be interesting to see if they actually try to show us a human/alien romance in this show.

well depending how the accent changed it isn't that odd, if it changed to more french sounding accent (similar to what all twileks had in the Clone Wars) it could be that was Hera's orginal accent and she is suppressing that for what ever reason (possibly to be taken more seriously) and when arguing with her father she reverted to that accent.

Finally! A good episode! After the unrelenting mediocrity of Episodes 11-14 (or Episodes 12-15 depending how you count them).

- How do you stuff up the colour of the bolts a Star Destroyer fires?
- Awesome, a Republic attack shuttle!
- Kanan acting all nervous and shit was pretty funny
- Not really sure why Cham and his fighters have odd pilfered parts of 212th attack battalion clone armor. I mean, its a neat visual callback, but it serves no discernible purpose
- Hera falling into her 'native' accent was a nice touch
- Cham's a bit full of shit for complaining about trusting outsiders given his feelings about the Jedi are unchanged
- Really, show? Really? You couldn't even have the Twi'lek resistance fighter who wasn't Numa get shot? Sigh
- Wow, the speed on those blast doors really sucks. Nothing like the speed of the doors we've seen - at any other time, ever. Its almost as if they had to be that way so they could have a silly force push scene
- The mind trick thing was pretty funny though. At least they didn't have something daft like these eight people killing everyone on the whole damn ship
- Where'd those TIEs come from? The Arquitens' TARDIS-like TIE hangar?
- No, those aren't torpedoes. They're clearly proton bombs. But I like them
- The all important nature of a ship's 'stabiliser' is getting to be an injoke
- The Imperial light carrier has at least four reactors
- The carrier is a really good idea, generally speaking. The design really works as an Imperial ship (far better than the one the Lucasarts SW games used)
- I want a Star Destroyer to crack this carrier in two at some point in the future

Galvatron wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:Well, this week was much, much better story-wise. Though now apparently the Arquitens not only has hangar space for a couple of fighters but can fit a whole damn Sentinel shuttle and an entire flight of TIEs.

Agreed. Between the Aruquitens' hangar capacity and the appearance of yet another Sentinel-class shuttle, this episode might just give Vympel an aneurysm.

Did anyone else notice Hera's accent change when she argued with her father? That was weird.

And Kanan's nervous behavior when meeting Cham for the first time tells me he's letting the Jedi code slide where Hera is concerned. It'll be interesting to see if they actually try to show us a human/alien romance in this show.

Yeah, I didn't mind the Sentinel-class shuttle in this instance. It was appropriate given the task at hand.

I believe they said they were proton bombs in the dialogue. I suppose the bombers were recalled at the same time the captain signaled his escort cruiser for backup, since they still had their payloads, and proton bombs make sense since they were loaded out to bomb the surface.

I thought it was interesting to finally see the rather spacious interior of a TIE bomber. It looks like they can be used as shuttles with no modification at all.

Isn't that what Captain Needa used to shuttle himself from the Avenger to the Executor so he could give his futile apology to Vader in person?

That, or that one might have been modified as a shuttle. After all, where were the bomb racks? Hera was in the cockpit and the rest of the team was in the secondary hull where the ordnance should be.

Vympel wrote: - The carrier is a really good idea, generally speaking. The design really works as an Imperial ship (far better than the one the Lucasarts SW games used)

Um-that was exactly the carrier design used in 'Rebellion' if nowhere else?

Batman wrote:

Vympel wrote: - The carrier is a really good idea, generally speaking. The design really works as an Imperial ship (far better than the one the Lucasarts SW games used)

Um-that was exactly the carrier design used in 'Rebellion' if nowhere else?

He's talking about this stupid-looking thing.

That 'stupid looking thing' actually makes a lot more sense than the 'Rebellion' Alliance carrier/the one from that episode.

I'm not fond of either design, to be honest. I think so many of the old EU capital ships (like the Dreadnaught, Carrack and Lancer-class ships) look lazy and uninspired. I prefer weird, alien-looking designs for the rebels' ragtag, hodgepodge fleet of ships and dagger-like designs for the Empire. If they're going to recycle the names of those old EU ships, I hope they get some good redesigns.

I wonder if they'll ever show us a canon Victory-class star destroyer and how different it'll be from the design we've seen over the past few decades.

Oh, and Hera's accent change isn't weird at all. My mother is natively from the American South, and she and I both fall into the accent when we've spent a lot of time with the relatives down there (her more so than I). What's weird is that Hera stops so readily after that conversation; after much time in Alabama I'll be saying y'all for a solid week after getting back.

What does "jeet jet" mean in Alabama?

Heck I adopted a Hamburg accent when I was in the army and I was only there for a year.

Rogue 9 wrote:Oh, and Hera's accent change isn't weird at all. My mother is natively from the American South, and she and I both fall into the accent when we've spent a lot of time with the relatives down there (her more so than I). What's weird is that Hera stops so readily after that conversation; after much time in Alabama I'll be saying y'all for a solid week after getting back.

I suspect that Hera is intentionally using a non-Ryloth accent normally after all she didn't slip until she was in private with only other persons around being her father and Chopper neither who probably don't care what her accent is. Also she doesn't start to truly slip until she gets really emotional in her arguments suggesting she's trying to maintain a non-ryloth accent.

That said it would have been nice if they had Hera's accent slip somewhat even before when she in situations where she couldn't consentrate in maintaining the accent.

I realize it mainly facilitates the plot, but I'd wish the Empire implemented a system of "ship X gets checked out upon departure, and if it doesn't check back in at the end of an mission, put on the 'questionable' list, and should it return sometime later, isolate and interrogate the pilot immediately and irradiate the ship with lethal levels of microwaves or something".

That's sort of what he was trying to do: he sent troops down there to check out the mysterious bomber, he was suspicious and was right to be. He demanded authorization codes too.

The thing is that the tactic actually worked on a good bone in the officer's body: the bomber was desperate and the pilot clearly in danger. It seems implied that he should have shot it up but he wanted to save his men, braking safety protocol for the sake of it.

I actually like that a goodly number of Imperial officers have been depicted in this series as simply performing their jobs without passion or prejudice. They don't all have to be sneering, mustache-twirling sadists.

Have we actually seen an imperial officer having a mustache'?