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Posted: 2008-05-11 01:51am
by The Yosemite Bear
Which I guess means that instead of a war, I brought christmas presents to someone's underaged citizens. Edit, yes, the release point was set quite a way away, barrowing the idea of the Japanese kite bombs from WWII, since thies world has an East to West Jetstream, it wasn't too hard for me to release a bunch of kites, and balloons just so that the kites would land in your territory each bearing 60 grams of coal. Merry Christmas

Posted: 2008-05-11 01:57am
by MKSheppard
That trick doesn't work. The balloons aren't moving and can be filtered out of the mass of radar returns; and you can frequency shift away from the length that the chaff is cut to today,

Posted: 2008-05-11 02:15am
by The Yosemite Bear
they are moving, they are just moving with the speed of the jetstream. Oh wait, that's also slow but fast given how fast the jet stream really does move. But your right, they are traveling the same speed as wind.

Posted: 2008-05-11 02:32am
by RogueIce
Lonestar
Since you've got allied port facilities, can you swing some UNREP assets out my way since we're in open ocean over on the west? And as I said earlier, a third CVBG to join my two on the west would be nice. Maybe we'll take Lonestar's CSG since he doesn't have any F-14s?

Posted: 2008-05-11 03:16am
by Adrian Laguna
Lonestar wrote:Staging rights for aircraft? I'd like to put some Global Hawks, P-8s, and MQ-9s up.
You can use the military airfields too. Adrianpolis' military airfields are the same as the Philippines' (mostly). As such you can use the Cesar Basa, Antonio Bautista, and Danilo Atienza airbases. Note that Cesar Basa is inland, but the other two are near the coast and nearby port facilities make it possible for them to receive men and material by sea. I also have a few outposts with airstrips in the Spratley islands, however they are only good for taking off and landing.

Posted: 2008-05-11 03:37am
by Shroom Man 777
That is so amusing, as I am from the Philippines.

Harold Clark Airbase is HUEG, as in it was the USA's biggest base back when it used to have holdings in the Philippines. So if you want military deployments, Clark is the place for it.

Posted: 2008-05-11 03:39am
by Adrian Laguna
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Harold Clark Airbase is HUEG, as in it was the USA's biggest base back when it used to have holdings in the Philippines. So if you want military deployments, Clark is the place for it.
Ah you're right, change Cesar Basa to Harold Clark.

Posted: 2008-05-11 03:42am
by Shroom Man 777
Though you might want to evacuate Clark if the nearby volcano explodes (Mt. Pinatubo :D)!

Posted: 2008-05-11 03:53am
by The Yosemite Bear
Oh BTW does anyone intend to use those cell phones with solar rechargers I more or less gave out all over Libertopia?

Posted: 2008-05-11 04:46am
by The Yosemite Bear
you know with this new libertopian admirial...

can we have a ruined underwater city run by guys in retro diving suits, where we really want to just destroy the place because of what they do to little girls?

Posted: 2008-05-11 04:52am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
The Yosemite Bear wrote:you know with this new libertopian admirial...

can we have a ruined underwater city run by guys in retro diving suits, where we really want to just destroy the place because of what they do to little girls?
You mean, Rapture? Seriously, if that sort of thing happens, I'd drop nuclear depth charges without even thinking too much about it. That sort of things should stay buried for good.

Posted: 2008-05-11 05:15am
by The Yosemite Bear
yes, I ment rapture.

Posted: 2008-05-11 10:26am
by Mr Bean
ATTN Mess

Can I get a complete break-down of all Mess Naval forces in the area of Terra Libertia? I've got five Landsat's in the area spread far enough apart that avoiding them would be impossible.

Picture time of course
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Note those are fixed orbits, because of Saddamstain, they don't have a positive or negative X,Y gain. There orbits are fixed to that line, give or take a mile or ten.

On the bright side, nothing short of SPIRAL, or a two stage ICBM armed with a Kinetic Warhead or Nuke can engage at that range. But we don't push our luck with Saddamstain.

(Edit MKII Landsat's have a 40m resoultion compared to the MI's which have a 60m)

Posted: 2008-05-11 10:56am
by Shroom Man 777
Pssst... Setzer, Vedra's on the opposite side of the map from Libertia. It'll take a while for refugees to arrive in your camps, mang :P

I do envy your position. You're as far away from crazy Saddamistan as possible (and in the vicinity of the other two powers capable of matching Saddamistan in sheer military might)! :)

Are the MESS' fleets floating by Terra Libertia? Or do they have some assets parked to protect the Duchy of Baal (and Shinra) as well?

Posted: 2008-05-11 11:25am
by K. A. Pital
Seriously, if that sort of thing happens
If Rapture, more or less like it is in Bioshock, exists, it must be destroyed immediately due to all the shit it harbors and the kind of mentality people have there.

Posted: 2008-05-11 11:26am
by Lonestar
Mr Bean wrote:ATTN Mess

Can I get a complete break-down of all Mess Naval forces in the area of Terra Libertia? I've got five Landsat's in the area spread far enough apart that avoiding them would be impossible.

Look it up in the thread in the MESS, we all know you cheat and look there anyway. :P

Posted: 2008-05-11 11:30am
by Lonestar
RogueIce wrote:Lonestar
Since you've got allied port facilities, can you swing some UNREP assets out my way since we're in open ocean over on the west? And as I said earlier, a third CVBG to join my two on the west would be nice. Maybe we'll take Lonestar's CSG since he doesn't have any F-14s?
I'll send the Denton County with the CGN Alamo riding shotgun. I prefer to keep my own UNREP asset so it doesn't decrease my OP-tempo.

I note that, considering the quality of the local aviation opposition, Super Hornets are good enough for air cover.

Posted: 2008-05-11 01:01pm
by K. A. Pital
Okay, time to act.

A lot of tough talk, no acting. Where's the brave "we won't let bloodshed occur"? :roll: Did the Great Saddam scare the MESS into declaring their old priorities null and void? In that case, I will use that to show that the MESS is only posturing to counter OMSK influence, but a real attack by a powerful rogue nation like Saddam is considered okay.

I will even send my ships to the quarantine if needed, but I demand it be enacted as fast as you can. And if the MESS fails to prevent things going as far as a ground invasion of Libertia - which is pretty much Saddams intent as I gather from posts - I'll be quite dissappointed.

Posted: 2008-05-11 01:12pm
by PeZook
Stas Bush wrote: I will even send my ships to the quarantine if needed, but I demand it be enacted as fast as you can. And if the MESS fails to prevent things going as far as a ground invasion of Libertia - which is pretty much Saddams intent as I gather from posts - I'll be quite dissappointed.
No, Saddam will not invade. He will gas Libertia.

There was no mobilization of the army, but he did unlock special weapon stockpiles.

Of course, this is OOC. PeZookia has no way of knowing that :)

Posted: 2008-05-11 01:13pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
PeZook wrote:
Stas Bush wrote: I will even send my ships to the quarantine if needed, but I demand it be enacted as fast as you can. And if the MESS fails to prevent things going as far as a ground invasion of Libertia - which is pretty much Saddams intent as I gather from posts - I'll be quite dissappointed.
No, Saddam will not invade. He will gas Libertia.

There was no mobilization of the army, but he did unlock special weapon stockpiles.

Of course, this is OOC. PeZookia has no way of knowing that :)
Either way is dangerous. Byzantium will not allow that.

As a preemptive move, I'm steaming a CVBG to Red Technocracy together with some tankers.

Posted: 2008-05-11 01:27pm
by Lonestar
Stas Bush wrote:Okay, time to act.

A lot of tough talk, no acting. Where's the brave "we won't let bloodshed occur"? :roll: Did the Great Saddam scare the MESS into declaring their old priorities null and void? In that case, I will use that to show that the MESS is only posturing to counter OMSK influence, but a real attack by a powerful rogue nation like Saddam is considered okay.

I will even send my ships to the quarantine if needed, but I demand it be enacted as fast as you can. And if the MESS fails to prevent things going as far as a ground invasion of Libertia - which is pretty much Saddams intent as I gather from posts - I'll be quite dissappointed.
Relax dude, It's mother's day here in the US, and one of us is in the middle of a move. Point of fact, I was about to leave for the afternoon.

We can only do so much in such a short period....but something will be done, don't worry.

Posted: 2008-05-11 03:25pm
by RogueIce
Stas Bush wrote:Okay, time to act.

A lot of tough talk, no acting. Where's the brave "we won't let bloodshed occur"? :roll: Did the Great Saddam scare the MESS into declaring their old priorities null and void? In that case, I will use that to show that the MESS is only posturing to counter OMSK influence, but a real attack by a powerful rogue nation like Saddam is considered okay.

I will even send my ships to the quarantine if needed, but I demand it be enacted as fast as you can. And if the MESS fails to prevent things going as far as a ground invasion of Libertia - which is pretty much Saddams intent as I gather from posts - I'll be quite dissappointed.
It is not just tough talk. We would hope you would catch the hintings in my and Lonestar's posts, where we had the quarantine issue brought up but "officially denied". I believe Saddamistan "reminding" people to respect their war zone is a sign that they, at least, believe we're setting up to do something.

Keep in mind Stas, that Saddamistan is no Iraq and we aren't the US. He can hit us, and hard, so we're taking things carefully. Right now all he's done is the first airstrike anyway. These things cannot be done instantly after all (even in the Real World it took awhile for the US to mobolize forces in Desert Shield before they could kick off Desert Storm). Patience is a virtue. :)

However, as I said before, Shinra and Baal are right on the doorstep. So obviously we're not going to move until we're ready. And by that note:
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Are the MESS' fleets floating by Terra Libertia? Or do they have some assets parked to protect the Duchy of Baal (and Shinra) as well?
I'm surging out my third CVBG to take up a position to do that. As well as what extra CGs and DDGs I can that are not assigned to any of the BGs (yes I have a few).

I'll probably confer with Deathdealer shortly to see if he can host one of my wings of Raptors as well.

And for the OMSK and FUN to consider:

I'm asking you to join the MESS in a Mutual Defense Agreement. Should Saddamistan attack any member of the MESS, FUN, or OMSK Pact, all alliances would respond appropriately. This will last for six months, at which point it can either be extended or discontinued, depending on how the Saddamistan/Libertia Crisis goes.

Posted: 2008-05-11 03:33pm
by RogueIce
OMSK and FUN

If you want to help, deploy forces to the north, to protect all of us up there. While we would welcome you here down south, trying to coordinate between various navies that have never worked together before would be problematic. Now is when all of our military exercises will come in handy. :wink:

As soon as we're ready, we'll let you know what our response will be to the situation. As Saddamistan hasn't launched any further attacks, just give it some time.

Posted: 2008-05-11 03:34pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
RogueIce wrote:And for the OMSK and FUN to consider:

I'm asking you to join the MESS in a Mutual Defense Agreement. Should Saddamistan attack any member of the MESS, FUN, or OMSK Pact, all alliances would respond appropriately. This will last for six months, at which point it can either be extended or discontinued, depending on how the Saddamistan/Libertia Crisis goes.
I am personally open to this, but we will command our own forces. Joint command is possible, but joint planning at best.

Posted: 2008-05-11 04:31pm
by Mr Bean
Lonestar wrote: Look it up in the thread in the MESS, we all know you cheat and look there anyway. :P
I acutally don't, not since around page 3 was it when you told me to take a hike? Back when your were planning my economic downfall? Good times.

No I've not read the thread in ages because I want to look back an re-read it once this STGOD runs down.
Stas Bush wrote:
A lot of tough talk, no acting. Where's the brave "we won't let bloodshed occur"? :roll: Did the Great Saddam scare the MESS into declaring their old priorities null and void? In that case, I will use that to show that the MESS is only posturing to counter OMSK influence, but a real attack by a powerful rogue nation like Saddam is considered okay..
One, as mentioned elsewhere Stas, it is mother's day, awww
Insert adorable picture
Oh here's one
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Awwww

RogueIce wrote:
Keep in mind Stas, that Saddamistan is no Iraq and we aren't the US. He can hit us, and hard, so we're taking things carefully. Right now all he's done is the first airstrike anyway. These things cannot be done instantly after all (even in the Real World it took awhile for the US to mobolize forces in Desert Shield before they could kick off Desert Storm). Patience is a virtue. :)
A better example is France VS German who in prepping to invade Poland, except Hitler is robotic and has laser eye beams.




RogueIce wrote: And for the OMSK and FUN to consider:

I'm asking you to join the MESS in a Mutual Defense Agreement. Should Saddamistan attack any member of the MESS, FUN, or OMSK Pact, all alliances would respond appropriately. This will last for six months, at which point it can either be extended or discontinued, depending on how the Saddamistan/Libertia Crisis goes.
If biological weapons are used you can be sure OMSK will honor it's treaty obligations, however thanks to Zoria, we don't have to move a good third of our Naval Strength into the area. Heck Stas and I can use Tu-160's from our home countries, same with C-130's. F-18's and F-22's need Zorian airstrips but beyond that we are already in range for the most part.

OAN
UKB Forces are deployed in ABM shields, and I encourage other OMSK countries to do the same, I am tempted to recall my Naval forces in the area(Task force Zoro) as well. But have no on assurances from Saddamstain. Their destruction military, hurts me little and they won't go down without a fight.

However thier primary mission(Piracy supression) is almsot null and void, it's kind of hard to be a Pirate with 400 Mess Fighter-craft on call to any Merchant as well as just under a hundred destroyers and perhaps half again as many Halifax equivalent ships as well.

Were I of the Pirate persuasion I would sit back, and take a two or three week vaction because the pickings are gone.
In fact I think it's time for Zoro to head home.

OAN:I went an entire year and over a 1000 post without naming one's of my government officials.