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scififanoftheearth wrote:Wow, he really won't shutup.

Is a board invasion allowed? Please, please, please!!!!!!
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scififanoftheearth wrote:Wow, he really won't shutup.

Is a board invasion allowed? Please, please, please!!!!!!
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Calm down guys. He asked if it was allowed, he didn't state he was going to do it.
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Examining Scooter's take on both the LFL exchange and this one, I'm reminded of Jaws 2, when Brody triumphantly marches into a meeting of the town's head honchos, drops a picture on the desk demonstrating that everything he said was right, and everyone else simply looks at it like "What does this prove?" It only shows a picture of a shark if that's what you want to see, otherwise it's just a blur. Of course, the comparison fails in that Brody was later proven right, but the idea that he's so obsessed he sees what he wants to see and ignores the rest fits Scoot to a tee. As we've said for years, he's the only person whose strategy of being confronted with damning evidence is to deny the evidence exists.
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Tiriol wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
KeVinK wrote: No can do.

One of the rules about writing for a franchise is you never read fanfic. You have to avoid even the appearance of mining -- or even cross pollenation. Which is a shame because I belonged to fanfic groups since the days when we used to trade mimeographed pages at amatuer cons. Had to quit when I turned pro.

I would recommend all Trek fanfic writers check out the annual Strange new Worlds competition, though. It's how I broke into the business.
That's very interesting; I never knew about this rule before, but it makes sense.
And it's not only Paramount policy - Lucasfilm (or was it Lucas Licensing? I'm not sure these days...) has same kind of policy, which effectively prevents its employers from reading any fan fiction and submitted stories from aspiring authors (I know this from experience). I'd say that it is very likely that about all franchise right-holders have that policy in use.
I think most publishers at minimum will "strongly urge" their authors to avoid fanfic. I know a couple of the authors I've talked with have mentioned they avoid fanfic unless it's submitted for publication in short story anthologies.
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Sonnenburg wrote:Examining Scooter's take on both the LFL exchange and this one, I'm reminded of Jaws 2, when Brody triumphantly marches into a meeting of the town's head honchos, drops a picture on the desk demonstrating that everything he said was right, and everyone else simply looks at it like "What does this prove?" It only shows a picture of a shark if that's what you want to see, otherwise it's just a blur. Of course, the comparison fails in that Brody was later proven right ...
In the movies, a picture of a blur is evidence of something profound. In the minds of conspiracy theorists, a picture of a blur is evidence of something profound. In the minds of UFOlogists, a picture of a blur is evidence of something profound. For normal people, it's just a picture of a goddamned blur.
but the idea that he's so obsessed he sees what he wants to see and ignores the rest fits Scoot to a tee.
KevinK actually nailed him in that one paragraph I quoted at the beginning of this thread. He is prejudiced against facts that contradict his position. We're talking about a guy who will quote certain people at Lucasfilm such as Rostoni et al as if they're Gospel, but when confronted with Lucasfilm employees who tell him right to his face that he's wrong, he argues with them. Shouldn't he be accepting what they say, just as he would if it were a quote in an interview? Of course not, because it contradicts him.
As we've said for years, he's the only person whose strategy of being confronted with damning evidence is to deny the evidence exists.
All true. But never before has he employed these methods in such a hilariously and disastrously public escapade.
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Darth Wong wrote:
As we've said for years, he's the only person whose strategy of being confronted with damning evidence is to deny the evidence exists.
All true. But never before has he employed these methods in such a hilariously and disastrously public escapade.
And that's the most amazing part, that everywhere he goes, even when people with zero interest in SW vs ST are involved, the conversations always turn into a) him being told he's wrong, and b) borderline to full-fledge flame wars taking place. It's like going to McDonald's, Taco Bell, Starbucks, Subway, then Arby's, and despite the fact that every single time he spills the drink on himself, it's got to be the fault of the people he got it from. But that's half the fun, I suppose. Watching Scooter enter a forum is a bit like watching a redneck repeatedly poke a screwdriver in a wall outlet.
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:shock: :roll: You know, as a sequel to the Encyclopedia Morinica and Mike's Fundie Phrase Dictionary, we should make the Darkstar Dictionary. (Make this a new thread if you want).

Here are the first few entries of darkstar definitions:

Ignoring evidence: you aren't interpreting it my way.
Logical fallacy: something only other peole do.
Canon: whatever Darkstar wants it to be at the moment.
nonsense: any part of an official quote that doesn't fit Darkstar's position.
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Okay, this guy is acting like a religious fanatic, denouncing people who raise objections to him the way a religious leader would denounce heretics... for a TV show? Movies? Novels?

Does he own the franchise to 'Star Trek'? Did he create the series? No and no? Then why is he so obsessed?

May I ask what's the point? (With religion, the questions make sense, even if the answers don't. With Darkstar's obsession, the questions don't make sense, either.)
Please do not make Americans fight giant monsters.

Those gun nuts do not understand the meaning of "overkill," and will simply use weapon after weapon of mass destruction (WMD) until the monster is dead, or until they run out of weapons.

They have more WMD than there are monsters for us to fight. (More insanity here.)
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Just finished reading the posts on TrekBBS. Damn, that was headache inducing! I should probably avoid tangling with Mr. Darkstar unless:

a) I have an avenue of escape, to avoid further mental contamination,

b) I'm wearing body armor or am in an armored vehicle, and am protected,

c) I have a gun with a laser sight, and thus can permanently silence Mr. Darkstar, thus eliminating another threat to my mental health.
Please do not make Americans fight giant monsters.

Those gun nuts do not understand the meaning of "overkill," and will simply use weapon after weapon of mass destruction (WMD) until the monster is dead, or until they run out of weapons.

They have more WMD than there are monsters for us to fight. (More insanity here.)
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Sidewinder, just a word of warning: we don't look too fondly upon death threats here, real or implied, even against schmucks like Scooter.
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Dalton wrote:Sidewinder, just a word of warning: we don't look too fondly upon death threats here, real or implied, even against schmucks like Scooter.
Sorry about that. I'll try to bring my attitude under control-- although, in my defense, use of firearms is listed as a last resort. (I'd first try to escape, and failing that, get armor or another form of passive protection.)
Please do not make Americans fight giant monsters.

Those gun nuts do not understand the meaning of "overkill," and will simply use weapon after weapon of mass destruction (WMD) until the monster is dead, or until they run out of weapons.

They have more WMD than there are monsters for us to fight. (More insanity here.)
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Can we say, "that Darkstar guy is DENSE!!" ? :shock:

In terms of matter-annihilation, he alone could power a galaxy-spanning empire.

I thought, those tales of past incidents were slightly exaggerated, but reality is even worse...

Boy, I do wish that some _BIG FISH_ would take care of him. Maybe if he continues with his crusade, someone could tell this living joke to GL... I would loooove to see Darkstar defending against him in a direct conversation. :twisted:

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Sidewinder wrote:
Dalton wrote:Sidewinder, just a word of warning: we don't look too fondly upon death threats here, real or implied, even against schmucks like Scooter.
Sorry about that. I'll try to bring my attitude under control-- although, in my defense, use of firearms is listed as a last resort. (I'd first try to escape, and failing that, get armor or another form of passive protection.)
When someone tells you not to imply death threats, you say "Yes sir, sorry about that, won't happen again." Nobody's interested in your excuses.
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The sad thing is that by whatever means you measure the man, by whatever absurd conspiracy theory he's spouting this week, he's a sad waste of oxygen.

If we go by the reality that the world apart from him perceives, he's just a delusional obsessive nut.

If we go by the theory that everyone else on the planet is misinformed, and he is the One True Bearer of Knowledge(TM), then he's a miserable failure as an educator.

If there is a vast conspiracy to hide the truth, then even with no censorship, his own forum, and the ability to put out information online to basically the entire civilised planet, he's got maybe twenty people that believe in his rubbish enough to actively support him.
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Anybody know how Darkstar feels about Supershadow?
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:Anybody know how Darkstar feels about Supershadow?
Given the chumps irrelevance to LFL in any shape or form, RSA probably considers him some rabid warsie.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:Anybody know how Darkstar feels about Supershadow?
The real question is dose this latest spout of debating employees make him more delusional.
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Glimmervoid wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Anybody know how Darkstar feels about Supershadow?
The real question is dose this latest spout of debating employees make him more delusional.
Probably. It seems every time I find his name attached to something, it represents one step in a long spiral staircase into utter madness. One of these days, he's going to end up pushing a shopping cart full of ST paraphenalia (no clothes except his TNG pajamas) around on the street, muttering incoherent rantings about how Darth Wong and his cadre of "rabid warsies" took over his cat's brain with a diabolical mind control ray. (It scratched him one day when he was petting it too roughly as he was venting at yet another defeat.)
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Can anyone explain what Darkstar hoped to get out of these debates with the employees themselves? Did he think that he was going to tell them that he knew their jobs better then they did? Because at this point I'm convinced RSA is doing this just because he's an attention whore, my mind's having trouble that someone could honestly be this disfunctional in real life.

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I think DarkStar was under the serious delusion that they were going to confirm what he "knows," then got belligerent when told otherwise.
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Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I think DarkStar was under the serious delusion that they were going to confirm what he "knows," then got belligerent when told otherwise.
I agree. He was starting to believe his own propaganda, and thought he'd curbstomp all of the doubters by getting it straight from the horse's mouth. When he didn't get the answers he wanted, he had a choice: he could either accept the truth like a man, or make a complete ass out of himself in public.
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Is anyone else disturbed by the depths of RSA's delusional state all this reveals?

Hilarious?
Yes!
But kind of sad, too...
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Frank Hipper wrote:Is anyone else disturbed by the depths of RSA's delusional state all this reveals?

Hilarious?
Yes!
But kind of sad, too...
Very disturbed. 'Tis the dangers of being a rabid fanboy of anything. Fanboyism requires a sacrifice of one chicken every month to Nyarlhotep or roll save-vs-insanity. Obviously, Scooter's been quite delinquent in his tributes.

It's become quite clear that RSA really thinks that he's the only one who can save his precious ST from the eeeeeevil Darth Wong and his "rabid warsie" army. No, dearheart; a francise lives or dies by the love of its fans in the care of its owners, and let's face it: Paramount hasn't been the most supportive creative authority.

John Wilkes Booth thought that if he assassinated Lincon, the South would rise again. Scooter thinks that if he destroys the "warsies," then Star Trek would rise out of its ashes like a phoenix. We all know how much better the South was doing after Booth's "success".
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Wyrm wrote:It's become quite clear that RSA really thinks that he's the only one who can save his precious ST from the eeeeeevil Darth Wong and his "rabid warsie" army. No, dearheart; a francise lives or dies by the love of its fans in the care of its owners, and let's face it: Paramount hasn't been the most supportive creative authority.

John Wilkes Booth thought that if he assassinated Lincon, the South would rise again. Scooter thinks that if he destroys the "warsies," then Star Trek would rise out of its ashes like a phoenix. We all know how much better the South was doing after Booth's "success".
I highly disagree. The only thing Anderson cares about is whether he is right. He seems to litterally care about nothing else, including the curent state of Star Trek. He is obsessed with being right to such a degree that we have seen him say literally anything in debates just so he can remain being "in the right."
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