DC to reveal 'iconic' male character as gay

[FaxModem1]

Geez, it's like the writers of Shazam don't understand what's to like about Billy Batson at all.

[Tsyroc]

At least there's the Young Justice TV show. That's been entertaining on a bunch of levels and the characters still seem to be adhering to their classic character traits.

[Batman]

Assuming that stupid video game doesn't turn out to be vital to understanding what happened during those 5 years, at any rate.

[Tsyroc]

Assuming that stupid video game doesn't turn out to be vital to understanding what happened during those 5 years, at any rate.

I didn't even know there was a video game.

I'll be really pissed if they do something like that.

[Grumman]

Also, don't forget about Captain Marvel. He hasn't gotten his post 52 treatment yet has he?

He has. They've turned him into a a fifteen year old shithead.

This reminds me of something I've said about SF&F wargaming. It's like some people are so engrossed in the idea of subverting the white knight archetype that they don't realise that the influence of so many like-minded individuals means that these days the white knight is the subversion.

[Majin Gojira]

From what I've read, it's an attempt to be more 'realistic' with someone who has suffered loss.

Which just reminds me of a rather epic quote from a Daredevil story, where he's asked who he lost to motivate him too fight crime.

. . . Don't you EVER say that to me ever again. That is a REPELLENT statement. It is a VOMITOUS INSULT to every cop -- every FIREMAN -- every soldier ALIVE who steps up to fight for those who can't! I AM SORRY for your loss! But if you GENUINELY BELIEVE That only the DEATH of a LOVED ONE can motivate a human being to take up a CAUSE . . . then get your PATHETIC, CYNICAL ASS out off my WAY so I CAN DO MY JOB!

He was talking to someone to who was idolizing the Punisher makes it more fun.

[Themightytom]

Are there any gay writers working on this project?

[evilsoup]

Are there any good writers working on this project?

[Atlan]

Are there any good writers working on this project?

All good writers are writing movies for Marvel right now

[JME2]

So, it's official. The character is the Earth-2 Alan Scott, AKA the original Green Lantern.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Which makes his entire back ground with Obsidion(hey dad why didn't you come out earlier, and why did you give me surch a hard time)a bit more of a generation thing. Besides we know that supervilloness Thorn os Jade and Obsidion's mother, so she probably used some poison ivy like powers she's never shown before instead of just vamping and shooting crossbows at wood weak Alan Scott.....

[Majin Gojira]

It appears that earth 2 is supposed to be, instead of a past/alternate history thing, it's going to be just a stereotypical alternate universe thing.

Loss of complexity? Cheap publicity stunt moves? Given its Grim And Gritty origins so far, it looks like Earth 2 is like the majority of the Nu52 titles: written by 90s Kid.

EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME! isn't it?

[JME2]

I'm not happy about this, but only because this feels like a desperate stunt on DC's part.

[Enigma]

Well, DC is also going drastically change the rest of the JSA. Look for gender and race swapping to occur, so something like making Alan Scott gay isn't that big of a deal.

[JME2]

Fair enough.

[Cosmic Average]

So they basically eliminated one gay character, Alan Scott's son Obsidian, to make Alan Scott gay? So, net wise, there have been no changes in the number of gay DC characters, correct?

[JME2]

So they basically eliminated one gay character, Alan Scott's son Obsidian, to make Alan Scott gay? So, net wise, there have been no changes in the number of gay DC characters, correct?

Alas, there's been no sign of Renee Montoya since the reboot.

[Vendetta]

Well, DC is also going drastically change the rest of the JSA. Look for gender and race swapping to occur, so something like making Alan Scott gay isn't that big of a deal.

I dunno, it feels tokenistic:

"We need a gay guy, who's sufficiently irrelevant that making him gay won't upset people?".

"Alan Scott, he's even a Green Lantern so we can pretend he's important, even though no-one's actually given a shit for a million years".

"Genius, that's that box ticked".

[The Yosemite Bear]

thought for a second you said "Tolkien-esq" looks at green lantern ring Hal J. "My Precioussssss"

[Enigma]

Well, DC is also going drastically change the rest of the JSA. Look for gender and race swapping to occur, so something like making Alan Scott gay isn't that big of a deal.

I dunno, it feels tokenistic:

"We need a gay guy, who's sufficiently irrelevant that making him gay won't upset people?".

"Alan Scott, he's even a Green Lantern so we can pretend he's important, even though no-one's actually given a shit for a million years".

"Genius, that's that box ticked".

No, being tokenistic if they made some bottom-of-the-barrel-largely-irrelevant hero gay. Alan Scott isn't it. Sure, he isn't an A level character, but anyone older than thirty or has an interest in comics history knows he was one of the superheroes of his time.

A token character to be gay would be for example, Gleek, one of the Wonder Twins, Lucious Fox or Steel.

A side note, I thought that Alan Scott's version of the Green Lantern was that his powers were mystical in origin and not from the GLC. Have they retconned that?

[General Zod]

Well, DC is also going drastically change the rest of the JSA. Look for gender and race swapping to occur, so something like making Alan Scott gay isn't that big of a deal.

I dunno, it feels tokenistic:

"We need a gay guy, who's sufficiently irrelevant that making him gay won't upset people?".

"Alan Scott, he's even a Green Lantern so we can pretend he's important, even though no-one's actually given a shit for a million years".

"Genius, that's that box ticked".

No, being tokenistic if they made some bottom-of-the-barrel-largely-irrelevant hero gay. Alan Scott isn't it. Sure, he isn't an A level character, but anyone older than thirty or has an interest in comics history knows he was one of the superheroes of his time.

A token character to be gay would be for example, Gleek, one of the Wonder Twins, Lucious Fox or Steel.

A side note, I thought that Alan Scott's version of the Green Lantern was that his powers were mystical in origin and not from the GLC. Have they retconned that?

They retconned it years ago.

[Havok]

If it isn't Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman, DC shouldn't be using "iconic" or else they have a very overinflated sense of the popularity of their other characters.

If they are using "iconic" in universe, then it will be a pre-Batman, Supes, WW character. See: Hush and the flashbacks Batman has to seeing the Green Lantern or something of the like.

Also, don't forget about Captain Marvel. He hasn't gotten his post 52 treatment yet has he?

Is that what they call "nailing it"?

[Ahriman238]

Well, DC is also going drastically change the rest of the JSA. Look for gender and race swapping to occur, so something like making Alan Scott gay isn't that big of a deal.

I dunno, it feels tokenistic:

"We need a gay guy, who's sufficiently irrelevant that making him gay won't upset people?".

"Alan Scott, he's even a Green Lantern so we can pretend he's important, even though no-one's actually given a shit for a million years".

"Genius, that's that box ticked".

No, being tokenistic if they made some bottom-of-the-barrel-largely-irrelevant hero gay. Alan Scott isn't it. Sure, he isn't an A level character, but anyone older than thirty or has an interest in comics history knows he was one of the superheroes of his time.

A token character to be gay would be for example, Gleek, one of the Wonder Twins, Lucious Fox or Steel.

A side note, I thought that Alan Scott's version of the Green Lantern was that his powers were mystical in origin and not from the GLC. Have they retconned that?

Last time I picked up a Justice Society (which was, admittedly a couple years back) they were still sticking to the version from Crisis and Millenium. Namely, that the Guardians found intense magic on OA when they moved there (it being the literal center of the universe and all) which interefered with their own powers and technology, so they gathered up the most powerful source of magical energy in the universe and sent it away in a glowing green bubble (the Starheart.) The Starheart eventually became sentient, and having considerable foresight broke off a piece of itself to send to earth as a meteor rock that would one day be made into a lantern and ring, so Al could be it's champion.

Of course, Al's ring and battery came from a magic meteor rock long before there was an entire Corps of Green Lantern space-cops.

[Raw Shark]

A side note, I thought that Alan Scott's version of the Green Lantern was that his powers were mystical in origin and not from the GLC. Have they retconned that?

They retconned it years ago.

Looks like they're retconning the retcon:

In issue #2, readers will find out that Alan Scott has a same-sex relationship with a man named Sam. They'll also see him land in Hong Kong, and his partner will say the hotel hideaway that they're visiting is "magical."

"As is implied by the cover, which features Jay Garrick, the meat of issue #2 is Jay's origin and him becoming the Flash," Robinson said. "But we will see more of Alan Scott and then set up the events that lead to him becoming a Green Lantern in issue #3. That's how it's going to play out."

The fact that Alan is visiting a "magical" place in China is reflective of the original Green Lantern's origin, having found a magical flame in that country.

Whatever adventure he finds in China apparently leads to his adoption of the Green Lantern mantle, which Robinson said will happen in Earth 2 #3.

"He has no ring, but the green flame, which is the energy of the earth," Robinson told Newsarama this week. "He is the receptacle and the conduit for that energy. He is literally a living Green Lantern. He's the Green Lantern."

[Tsyroc]

"He has no ring, but the green flame, which is the energy of the earth," Robinson told Newsarama this week. "He is the receptacle and the conduit for that energy. He is literally a living Green Lantern. He's the Green Lantern."

It sounds like they are making him more like he was when he was Sentinel. I rather liked that the power was contained within him. It seems only fair if he's going to be stuck with a weakness against wood.