Darth Vader vs the Alpha Quadrant

[Oddity]

This one may have been used before, but I am a newcomer so please bear one with me.

Q is looking for some entertainment, so he grabs the SSD Executor just before the Battle of Hoth and dumps it smack in the middle of Federation space.

How much hell can the Executor raise? What can Starfleet do to destroy it \ board it? Remember that Vader is still onboard.

[StarshipTitanic]

Acclamator>AQ

[StarshipTitanic]

agg, I didn't finish:

Acclamator>AQ
ergo
SSD>AQ

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

2000 HTL guns...

[Darth Yoshi]

Vader aboard the Executor could on the whole AQ in his sleep.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Vader aboard the Executor could on the whole AQ in his sleep.

Now maybe Vader in his Tie Advanced would last a few minutes longer

[Isolder74]

i'd say that the Federation is doomed. Vader would blast anything that comes at him and then board and turn to his will the Fed crews who would join him out of fear.

[Master of Ossus]

Yoda says: Mmm... Screwed, the Alpha Quadrant, is.

The Federation has no chance of taking down the Executor, even without Vader on it. On the other hand, the Executor just doesn't carry enough troops to physically subjugate very many planets. Unless fear of the Executor itself would keep the local systems in line (dubious), the Executor and its crew would just have to pick a really nice place to live and conquer it. Even though they could keep on destroying infinitely many SF ships, they could never conquer a significant amount of territory with just the resources on board.

[Anarchist Bunny]

They could, just not in a short time frame. He could take over 10-15 planets with the speed of the Executor that he could go to them in seconds or minutes and should have enough troops to keep those inline. Then, aggresive recruiting campaign. Enlarge his troops, train them, take over more. With in a 3-7 year time frame he could own the AQ and beyond.

[master_yoda]

He'd created a shitload of damge to most sides but I'd doubt that he'd survive.

[XPViking]

How much hell can the Executor raise? If Vader plays his cards right, he could grind up the AQ. But, as Master of Ossus said, he'd need to set up a base first.

XPViking

[Crown]

Vader, in his rage of having been cheated out of his chance to crush the Rebels, and capture Luke at Hoth begins to mind-rape the entire Alpah Quadrant!

Quickly, the Federation is nuetralised through fear, and mysteriously every diplomat that they send to Vader never seems to return quite the same as when they left...

[GreenZXZ]

Besides that the Executor would, basically, not be damaged by any amount of AQ fire, where would it get its supplies? It would need a bit of intelligence to find one planet with sufficient resources to keep a SSD happy, especially with the industrial capabilities of the AQ.

Of course, once a planet is found, Vader can simply take it, load up all of its resources, then leave until he's short again, where he'll need to find a new base.

Does Q send him back after some time?

[Oddity]

Besides that the Executor would, basically, not be damaged by any amount of AQ fire, where would it get its supplies? It would need a bit of intelligence to find one planet with sufficient resources to keep a SSD happy, especially with the industrial capabilities of the AQ.

Of course, once a planet is found, Vader can simply take it, load up all of its resources, then leave until he's short again, where he'll need to find a new base.

Does Q send him back after some time?

Well... Let's say Q keeps Vader and the SSD in AQ for a year. Then he gathers them up, erase their memories, reincarnate those who died and dumps them back into the Hoth System.

[Master of Ossus]

Well... Let's say Q keeps Vader and the SSD in AQ for a year. Then he gathers them up, erase their memories, reincarnate those who died and dumps them back into the Hoth System.

Can Q reincarnate people? In any case, the SSD would school almost any amount of AQ resistance, but I still don't think it could carve out a significant chunk of territory.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

The SSD will kill a lot. Most powers will be smoking.

[Crayz9000]

Can Q reincarnate people?

According to TNG "Hide and Q," it may be possible. During the trials, for example, Wesley had a bayonet thrust through his chest and collapsed. While his heart may have stopped, it certainly was not four minutes before Riker brought them back to the Enterprise. Q's powers may be limited to merely healing in that case.

Oh, I should add: Riker promised not to use his powers, and went on a mission to a colony. He found a child who had been buried beneath rubble for over a day, without heartbeat or pulse; i.e. a very small chance of being alive. He believed that he could have brought her back to life had he not made his promise to Picard.

[Darth Yoshi]

Actually, the Executor wouldn't even need to waste TL power fighting AQ ships. It's shields can easily take the KE and Chemical Energy of several mile long ISDs.

[Mr Bean]

Actually, the Executor wouldn't even need to waste TL power fighting AQ ships. It's shields can easily take the KE and Chemical Energy of several mile long ISDs.

sooo a Benny Hill Music Track and lots of squishing noises?

[fgalkin2]

Can Q reincarnate people?

According to TNG "Hide and Q," it may be possible. During the trials, for example, Wesley had a bayonet thrust through his chest and collapsed. While his heart may have stopped, it certainly was not four minutes before Riker brought them back to the Enterprise. Q's powers may be limited to merely healing in that case.

Damn, it! Stupid Q!

[Lusankya]

If I was Vader, I'd join forces with the Maquis. They don't know what the Empire is like, and they have grudges against two powers. They'd probably prove to be very malleable. (this is, of course, assuming that Vader has a little look around before he starts blowing people to smithereens.)

[Arthur_Tuxedo]

This just isn't right. We all know what would happen in this case, total AQ stompage. How about something more interesting? Vader's escape pod ends up being picked up by the USS Sovereign, on a course for Deep Space 9. Just to make things interesting, he has one week before Starfleet learns of his presence and becomes hellbent on destroying him, no matter how low a profile he keeps. What happens?

[XPViking]

I want to make sure that I'm understanding you correctly here Arthur_Tuxedo. Are you saying Vader's pod is rescued by the USS Sovereign and that Vader is aboard the ship?

I guess it comes down to whether Vader can take over the crew and ship. Then what would he do? Plot the downfall of the Feds and create a mini-Empire?

XPViking

[Arthur_Tuxedo]

Basically, unless he bides his time 'til the ship gets to DS9 (let's say that takes 3 days, meaning he would only have 4 days after that of anonymity). So it's Vader with Fed technology against the military might of the Federation, keeping in mind Fed stupidity, and Vader's talents at intimidation and technology. At the very least, I would expect him to alter the balance of power toward whatever side he hooks up with (assuming he does that).

[Darth Yoshi]

Vader might be able to modify the warp core and make it less prone to exploding. If he can do that, then whatever ship he commande --- er, borrows --- will have an advantage in combat. Plus, we know what a great pilot he is, so put in a joystick, and let the dogfighting begin!