Dishonest Warsie Claims
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TheDarkling wrote:Were you saying it was dishonest?, if so thats already been posted.
and thats why I said if your being serious.
Of course it was dishonest. A Tie Fighter has kiloton weapons at best
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TheDarkling wrote:Sorry - I have seen some insane stuff being said before.
What, like an ISD having a chance against a Federation shuttle? I mean turboLASERS won't even penetrate it's navagational shields
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So what are they for?
Of course, all of this begs the question of what fighters are for to begin with, and why so much space in capships is devoted to housing them. Why not double the shielding instead? They must be good for something.
Why do you have a bunch of cops in a city instead of one police tank? Sure, the individual officers can't match the capability of a tank, but they can be more than one place at once, doing tasks that do not necessarily require high firepower or survivability.
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Dishonest claims...
Actually, going at least vaguely serious, there is one that tends to pop up in many fan 'versus' spheres. That of one side being fully-equipped, well-rested, at the peak of training, having a good day, and generally otherwise being at their best, while the other side is either mediocre or strangely inhibited.
Just to keep it going both ways, a Warsie doing this might claim in, say, the <i>Enterprise</i> vs the Death Star...
'OK. Well, the Death Star has loads and loads of troops on board, and hundreds and hundreds of TIE fighters and other ships - and since some sources say they can carry either six or two projectiles, that must mean it's eight, and every Empire soldier on board is powered by the Force. And the <i>Enterprise</i>, well, since we know they have a repair cycle, it's unlikely they'll be at the top of it, so they won't be in good shape. So they probably don't have many torpedoes either, and they don't like fighting, so half of them will have abandoned ship...'
A Trekkie doing a similar thing might claim, 'The <i>Enterprise</i> will have a team standing by all the replicators manufacturing torpedoes, and forty-seven other ships, all of which are <i>Defiant</i>-class, will be sitting right inside the next star because they all have metaphasic shields... TIE fighters or X-Wings won't be around because they wouldn't come to the battle. Now, we know it takes about six and a half weeks for the guns on the Death Star to warm up...'
For some reason this is a favourite to pop out in any kind of [Whoever] vs Batman argu--ahem, debates. Batman's inevitably spent the last three weeks scoping out the territory and planting things, whereas the opponent doesn't know that she's supposed to fight today, and is probably drunk or mind-controlled so not at her best. Or something.
There's someone in every camp that does it, really...moving on...
Just to keep it going both ways, a Warsie doing this might claim in, say, the <i>Enterprise</i> vs the Death Star...
'OK. Well, the Death Star has loads and loads of troops on board, and hundreds and hundreds of TIE fighters and other ships - and since some sources say they can carry either six or two projectiles, that must mean it's eight, and every Empire soldier on board is powered by the Force. And the <i>Enterprise</i>, well, since we know they have a repair cycle, it's unlikely they'll be at the top of it, so they won't be in good shape. So they probably don't have many torpedoes either, and they don't like fighting, so half of them will have abandoned ship...'
A Trekkie doing a similar thing might claim, 'The <i>Enterprise</i> will have a team standing by all the replicators manufacturing torpedoes, and forty-seven other ships, all of which are <i>Defiant</i>-class, will be sitting right inside the next star because they all have metaphasic shields... TIE fighters or X-Wings won't be around because they wouldn't come to the battle. Now, we know it takes about six and a half weeks for the guns on the Death Star to warm up...'
For some reason this is a favourite to pop out in any kind of [Whoever] vs Batman argu--ahem, debates. Batman's inevitably spent the last three weeks scoping out the territory and planting things, whereas the opponent doesn't know that she's supposed to fight today, and is probably drunk or mind-controlled so not at her best. Or something.
There's someone in every camp that does it, really...moving on...
Actually, I usually see some debates starting off with the caveat that competence is assumed on both sides...Actually, going at least vaguely serious, there is one that tends to pop up in many fan 'versus' spheres. That of one side being fully-equipped, well-rested, at the peak of training, having a good day, and generally otherwise being at their best, while the other side is either mediocre or strangely inhibited.
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True. I guess a better way of saying it would be "Inflicted with so much energy that it was shattered into itty-bitty pieces so small that they're almost invisible compared to the size of the planet itself". This, of course, is shortened to just "vaporized"... not in the technical sense, but in the hyperbolic sense.One claim I've heard is that the Deathstar vaporized planets when it was pretty cleary estabilished both in the explosion and the Millenium falcon jumping into an asteroid field that a good chunk of the planet was still around, just in a lot of little pieces.
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Re: Dishonest Warsie Claims
Yup, just see here:Guest wrote:Stark wrote:Anonymous wrote:
SW fighters CAN, HAVE, and WILL be a threat to capital ships.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKxzI4LuNSU
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Re: Dishonest Warsie Claims
Dude. The thread was over a decade old.
Re: Dishonest Warsie Claims
All those posters lost in time like tears in rain.
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Re: Dishonest Warsie Claims
*Sigh*
Somebody has not read the rules. User warned. Thread locked.
Somebody has not read the rules. User warned. Thread locked.
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