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Over 1,000 people were slaughtered in the past week in villages all across
Congo. And the UN has no fucking idea who the fuck did it...
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NEVER FEAR! The great forces of liberty and democracy shall come and rescue these poor souls. *aide whispers in Shrubs ear* Errr, sorry, ignore all that, apparently they don't have any oil. Nevermind.
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MKSheppard wrote:Over 1,000 people were slaughtered in the past week in villages all across
Congo. And the UN has no fucking idea who the fuck did it...
Probably because its been happening since 1960.
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It was obviously Iran and Syria that did it! ATTACK!
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weemadando wrote:NEVER FEAR! The great forces of liberty and democracy shall come and rescue these poor souls. *aide whispers in Shrubs ear* Errr, sorry, ignore all that, apparently they don't have any oil. Nevermind.
Actually it does foolish one
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
weemadando wrote:NEVER FEAR! The great forces of liberty and democracy shall come and rescue these poor souls. *aide whispers in Shrubs ear* Errr, sorry, ignore all that, apparently they don't have any oil. Nevermind.
Actually it does foolish one
Fine, then I'll use the Oepidus complex defense.

There is no precedent in the Congo. No need for Dubya to prove anything to his father.
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That and the US has no viable area to stage from, we've alreayd worn out any international welcome we'd recieve, and well yeah the oil thing too. that plus none of those nations ever actually threatened the US IIRC.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
weemadando wrote:NEVER FEAR! The great forces of liberty and democracy shall come and rescue these poor souls. *aide whispers in Shrubs ear* Errr, sorry, ignore all that, apparently they don't have any oil. Nevermind.
Actually it does foolish one
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Darth Fanboy wrote:That and the US has no viable area to stage from, we've alreayd worn out any international welcome we'd recieve, and well yeah the oil thing too. that plus none of those nations ever actually threatened the US IIRC.
So what? The US is policing the Middle East, why not police the REST of the globe like it is our "responsibility" to do? Hell, if there are wrongs being done in the Congo, the US should intervene, it being the world's largest superpower... Right??
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Darth Fanboy wrote:That and the US has no viable area to stage from, we've alreayd worn out any international welcome we'd recieve, and well yeah the oil thing too. that plus none of those nations ever actually threatened the US IIRC.
No viable area to stage from??!?!

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Ah yes, the Congo where they've been butchering each other with relish for the better part of human history. If we could actually do any good, unlike Iraq, we might well go in. The problem is there's no possible way we could salvage the situation in Africa.
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weemadando wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
weemadando wrote:NEVER FEAR! The great forces of liberty and democracy shall come and rescue these poor souls. *aide whispers in Shrubs ear* Errr, sorry, ignore all that, apparently they don't have any oil. Nevermind.
Actually it does foolish one
Fine, then I'll use the Oepidus complex defense.

There is no precedent in the Congo. No need for Dubya to prove anything to his father.
Actually there is a precedent as well.

Thank you for shooting your anti invasion bullshit in the foot again.
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the Belgians fucked things up in the Congo, let them fix it.
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Queeb Salaron wrote:[
So what? The US is policing the Middle East, why not police the REST of the globe like it is our "responsibility" to do? Hell, if there are wrongs being done in the Congo, the US should intervene, it being the world's largest superpower... Right??
Perhaps when they become a threat or have some benefit to us.

It was Clinton who wanted us to be the world's policeman. There was absolutely no reason for the US to be in Somalia other than to play international cop. We have a lot more reasons for being in Iraq and they aren't all oil and money.
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Queeb Salaron wrote:...why not police the REST of the globe like it is our "responsibility" to do? Hell, if there are wrongs being done in the Congo, the US should intervene, it being the world's largest superpower... Right??
Yes, I believe this is indeed a compelling reason to go into Yugoslavia to stop... oh.. nevermind...

You do realize that was precisely the left's battle cry for ousting Slobo the Clown.... Not to say that you personally supported that, but it came from the same political field that is now againt this war....
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Coyote wrote:You do realize that was precisely the left's battle cry for ousting Slobo the Clown.... Not to say that you personally supported that, but it came from the same political field that is now againt this war....
Indeed. MORE hypocrisy from the left in the public forum.

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Glocksman wrote:the Belgians fucked things up in the Congo, let them fix it.

The Congo fucked its self. The UN for once managed to settle things down without the US doing all the work, though it did help out Belgium earlier. But once the UN forces left a what had been an attempt by a few provinces to succeeded became a general guerrilla civil war of sorts that has never ended.
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War crimes tribunals a la Nuremburg, Chief Justice Carla duPont presiding (I think that's her name, I may be mistaken).
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
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Queeb Salaron wrote:What ever happened to Slobodon Milosivech?
Wasting away in the Hague, if I recall.
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Queeb Salaron wrote: So what? The US is policing the Middle East, why not police the REST of the globe like it is our "responsibility" to do? Hell, if there are wrongs being done in the Congo, the US should intervene, it being the world's largest superpower... Right??
The US should intervene in such things when something can be realistically accomplished. Nothing could be accomplished by US troops in the Congo.
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Reminds me, have any of you guys seen Tears of the Sun? Fine movie IMHO
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Sea Skimmer wrote:The US should intervene in such things when something can be realistically accomplished. Nothing could be accomplished by US troops in the Congo.
By that do you mean that there's nothing for the US to gain by interfering? Because that seems to be the MO for a lot of foreign conflict involving the US.
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Queeb Salaron wrote: By that do you mean that there's nothing for the US to gain by interfering? Because that seems to be the MO for a lot of foreign conflict involving the US.
No, I mean sending 10, 20, 50 or 300 thousand American troops won't end the current fighting while reigniting a full scale civil war that has actually been in a period of relative calm.
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Queeb Salaron wrote:By that do you mean that there's nothing for the US to gain by interfering? Because that seems to be the MO for a lot of foreign conflict involving the US.
You really don't get it. The US wouldn't be able to stop the fighting and is unlikely to do anything but extremely short term good and a lot of long term damage. All that a theoretical US intervention would do is to put our boys on the firing range for both sides with stopping anything. We'd simply restart and intensify an already nasty civil war for nothing.

While it would hardly be immoral to intervene it would be to no appreciable improvement in the situation. This is simply a case where an intervention would cost far more lives than would be saved and to no worthwhile end.
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MKSheppard wrote:Over 1,000 people were slaughtered in the past week in villages all across
Congo. And the UN has no fucking idea who the fuck did it...
You've sumarised the history of most of Africa. I'd say its normal those things, can anybody say Idi Amin?
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