The Romulan Republic wrote: ↑2019-02-16 08:04pm
Not to get into Trump/Russia again, but Americans being to blame and Russia being to blame are not mutually exclusive. Sometimes, there's more than one guilty party. Contrary to what some seem to think, I don't think its absolving Trump's American enablers to also acknowledge Russia's role.
If I want to defend the collective integrity of the American people and nation, I'll point to the fact that most of us voted against him.
See PM. I thought it be best to discuss that there, as not to shit up this thread. But I concede your first point as being fair.
But yeah, its a shitty, shitty hand Q's dealing you here. Resigning while somehow getting rid of Pence (hopefully you'd have dirt on Pence sufficient to take him down too) is probably the only decent thing to do, from a social stand point. From a self-interest stand point- well, you're pretty much fucked unless you're prepared to continue down much the same path as Trump, at least in terms of obstructing investigations and lying your ass off.
I stated my intentions above. That's who I am as a person. Fuck Trump.
(and, on that I'm sure we both agree)
That said, it would be fucking hilarious if one day Trump just woke up, did a 180, and started Presidenting as a radical Leftist. Probably the only thing that would get the Senate to vote to convict him...
He won't get that far. Assuming Russian collusion is true, Putin would have him done away with, because that's the kind of guy he is, KGB mentality and all.*
Assuming it isn't true, the tea party faction which helped ensure and have benefitted from his election will have him done away with, in all likelihood, setting the Federal judiciary on him, and either have him sent to the worst maximum security hellhole in the Federal system, to Gitmo, or rendered to a friendly authoritarian dictatorship, and, regardless, have him done away with while incarcerated.
Or, he is assassinated by a disillusioned deplorable or similar far-right nutter.
Regardless of how he is killed, he will be vilified as an undercover leftist—never neglecting, for a second, to point out his friendships with key Democrats, including Bill Clinton—for a while, as they use him to justify the agenda they and folks like you and me(well, maybe not you and I, but you know what I mean)wanted to ramrod up the asses of the American people(and, from there, the world)the entire time, before the passage of time rehabilitates him and makes him a martyr. Cases in point being Richard Nixon and Josef Stalin.
*He's just less subtle than your average KGB officer, who would make it look like it wasn't them who did the deed. Putin just offers some lame-ass denial, because he just doesn't give a damn.
"Beware the Beast, Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone amongst God's primates, he kills for sport, for lust, for greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of Death.."
—29th Scroll, 6th Verse of Ape Law
"Indelible in the hippocampus is the laughter. The uproarious laughter between the two, and their having fun at my expense.”
---Doctor Christine Blasey-Ford