The Romulan Republic wrote:To Adrian McNair: I'd like to see Ward be redeemed and I think he could be, though I also think he's not at that point yet
Why? Why is it necessary that he be redeemed? What makes you think he even can be? He isn't worthy of it. If Ward tried to pick up Mjolnir it would drag him down to the centre of the Earth. That's how unworthy he is. This latest episode proved that his latest act of altruism was in fact nothing more than a ruse which led to Morse's capture (the implication being that he and Kara Palamas are going to brainwash and perhaps torture her before killing her). He's too unpredictable and untrustworthy. He's left behind too much wreckage in his wake. Fitz's brain damage is a testament to that. Does every scumbag in fiction have to be redeemed as seems to be the trend nowadays? I don't believe so. As far as I'm concerned the only way Ward can make up for his deplorable past is to sacrifice himself for the greater good. Anything else would be hollow.
But don't get me wrong I like what they've done with his character. He was a generic slab of beefcake before his true nature came to light, revealing something far more interesting. I just don't want his continued survival to come at the expense of the show like it did with Heroes' treatment of Sylar (that was a clusterfuck and a half). Thankfully that hasn't happened thus far.
(and it has nothing to do with his looks- I'm a heterosexual man).
I wasn't referring to you when I mentioned that. I was merely giving voice to my frustration towards the legions of idiot fangirls who seem to be watching a different show. The one where he's some sort of tortured anti-hero rather than a villain and ends up getting the girl. They gloss over his transgressions and mention his upbringing as though that's a legitimate excuse for his actions! It's the bad boy effect, pure and simple.
But as for Ward rejoining the team... I don't see May, Fitz, or Simmons going for that right now. Skye and Coulson, however, seemed willing to work with him more or less respectfully provided he didn't cause problems (if only temporarily). That said, I'm thinking of Ward more as a neutral party/occasional ally than a member of Coulson's force.
Even so, Coulson was uneasy about the whole affair and Skye openly said that she didn't regret shooting him. This current development with Morse makes any future team-up unlikely. Given that HYDRA has suffered several crippling blows of late his value as an intel source is negligible. So he doesn't even have that going for him. The impression I've had this season is that Ward has been working an angle the entire time. Any positive acts are deceptions that further his ulterior motive. They'd be fools to let him back into the fold. The situation would have to be truly dire for them to work with him again. The only reason why the most recent team-up made any sense was because Ward had a brainwashed Bakshi to use as a pawn.
I agree that Skye and Ward should not get together, however. To compare Agents of SHIELD to another Joss Whedon show, it bothers me how Buffy remains in love with, and gets back together with, her various abusive exes despite supposedly being a strong female character. That Skye was willing to apparently reject Ward for good actually made her a stronger character in comparison. Even if she forgave Ward, even if she worked with Ward, I wouldn't want to see her in a relationship with him- it would destroy perhaps the most appealing thing about her characterization for me. No, that bridge should be burned for good.
Well, that's something we can agree on at least. Yes, it was quite refreshing that Skye didn't fall for Ward's bullshit and was actually disgusted with him. A lesser show would have made her forgive him eventually. On the other hand her relationship with Lincoln is unremarkable but inoffensive. For the moment it does seem as though she'll end up with him which I'm fine with since it removes the possibility of SkyeWard. Try telling that to some of the die-hards on Tumblr, though. Their willful denials and stupidity are just nauseating.