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Another of the excellent Spiegel articles on the centenary
The Thirty Years' War: How Peace Kept WWI Alive

On two separate occasions, in 1918 and 1945, the world had to decide what to do with Germany. The second time around, world leaders almost made the same mistakes that failed to keep the Germans down after World War I.

Private Adolf Hitler was in a military hospital near the Baltic Sea when World War I came to an end. His regiment had come under fire in a British poison gas attack on the night of Oct. 13, 1918. While advancing on German positions in the Belgian town of Comines, the British fired off several tons of "LOST," which soldiers referred to as mustard gas, because of its mustard-like odor.

LOST was one of the most-feared weapons in the war. When the agent comes into contact with the skin, it causes chemical burns and blisters. If the fumes are inhaled, they destroy the bronchial tubes. Hitler apparently suffered severe conjunctivitis and inflammation of the eyelids and he worried he would lose his eyesight. In a letter to a doctor, he mentioned that he had initially been "blinded" but that the symptoms had soon subsided.

On Nov. 10, the hospital chaplain told the wounded that the war had ended. The House of Hohenzollern had been overthrown, the Weimar Republic had been established in Berlin and it was now up to Germany to accept the cease-fire "while trusting in the magnanimity" of its enemies.

Hitler became hysterical when he heard the news. "As a blackness surrounded me, I groped my way back to the dormitory, threw myself onto my bed and buried my head in the blanket and pillow," he later wrote, describing the moment he had recognized that it had "all been for nothing." For the first time since the day of his mother's funeral, Hitler wrote, he wept uncontrollably.

In his book "Mein Kampf," Hitler described the day of the German defeat as his political enlightenment. The chapter in which he describes his wartime experiences and the shock over a peace agreement detrimental to Germany ends with a sentence that would often be quoted in the future: "I, for my part, decided to go into politics."

Germany's Collective Memory

As its name indicates, World War I was the first truly global conflict, the effects of which only a few nations managed to escape. To this day, the countries involved remain divided over how the conflict should be remembered. When France and Great Britain commemorate the war this year, it will be remembered as a singular event of such great importance to the national identity of both nations that it is still referred to as the "Grande Guerre" or "Great War."

In Germany, on the other hand, a unique culture of remembrance has never become established. There are war monuments in many places to commemorate fallen soldiers, but the only aspects of the war that have become firmly entrenched in Germany's collective memory are its bloodiest battles: Verdun, of course, the Battle of the Somme, Gallipoli, Tannenberg and the Battle of Jutland.

One reason for the differences in approaching the war almost certainly has to do with casualty figures. While Germany lost two million soldiers in World War I -- more than any other country -- that number was more than doubled in World War II. The situation was reversed among Germany's adversaries in the West. More than twice as many Britons and four times as many Frenchmen died on the battlefields of World War I than in World War II. In retrospect, the number of victims is not only an expression of suffering, but also emblematic of the heroism of a nation, an essential element in the mythologizing of wartime events.

The experience of victory or defeat divides nations even more than the commemoration of the dead. It is difficult to say how many German soldiers perceived the cease-fire as a shock, as Hitler did. But by the time the Treaty of Versailles was signed, the dream of exacting revenge for the humiliation Germany had suffered became an obsession. This is one reason why there is not only a temporal but also a causal relationship between the two world wars.

For many historians, there is a direct line between Verdun and Stalingrad. To emphasize the continuity of violence, some even characterize the two conflicts as the "Second Thirty Years' War." In their view, the years between 1914 and 1945 merge into a single, uninterrupted conflict interrupted by a prolonged cease-fire.

Without the attack on Belgium in August 1914, would there have been no invasion of Poland 25 years later? As simple as it seems, this notion leads to treacherous territory when it comes to the interpretation of historical events. If the two wars are seen as a single protracted conflict, the causes must be viewed in a different light.

The Starting Point

Any effective peace agreement should not only eliminate the conditions which led to conflict, but should also seek to ensure that those conditions do not reoccur. The imbalances that led to violence must be resolved.

In the case of Germany, this objective of the peace agreement failed spectacularly. At the beginning of World War I, Germany feared encirclement by France and Russia. It was essentially the starting point for everything that ensued.

The Treaty of Versailles seemed to confirm all fears. It was to be expected that France would insist on the return of Alsace-Lorraine, which the country had lost to Germany in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71. Financial compensation was also expected, and yet this was not enough to satisfy French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau.

Under Article 231 of the treaty, Germany was forced to concede that it was solely responsible for the war -- a genuflection from which the victorious powers derived their claim for extensive reparations. But Clemenceau was interested in more than compensation. His goal was to keep Germany in its place by permanently weakening the country.

It is tempting to think about what would have happened had US President Woodrow Wilson adhered to his original resolution to keep the United States out of the war. Throughout most of the war, the Germans were tactically superior to their opponents. What they lacked in materiel and manpower they managed to make up through battlefield strategy.

Indeed, in the summer of 1917 France was on the verge of collapse. The number of dead French soldiers had surpassed one million. And while the general staff attempted to distribute the losses throughout the country by constantly rotating its fighting forces -- thus spreading the pain among the individual provinces -- despair had taken hold. While the average German family produced three to four children, the birth rate in France had declined to two children per family. Each loss was even more difficult to handle. Many parents who had had only sons were suddenly childless.

The soldiers themselves were also succumbing to fatalism. After a devastating offensive on the Aisne, in which the French lost 130,000 men within a few days, large parts of the army were refusing to continue fighting. After a flood of court martial proceedings, General Philippe Pétain held out the prospect of no longer engaging in major offensives. But this also limited the effectiveness of his army.

A Cardinal Error

There are many indications that the French, with no hope for an improvement in the situation, would have been prepared to conclude a separate peace with the German Reich. The collapse of the Entente would have been imminent, as Russia too was on the brink. Although morale was surprisingly high among British soldiers are three years of war and horrendous losses, the United Kingdom would hardly have continued fighting on the Continent without its allies.

It was the United States that turned the tide in World War I. Beginning in the spring of 1918, Germany's adversaries had an almost unlimited supply of well-rested units at their disposal. By August, some 1.3 million men had been shipped from the United States to Europe. "The German army would have persevered longer than the others. On average, its soldiers had been exposed to greater hardships, and they had they become more effective in combat -- but now the troops were running on empty," concludes political scientist Herfried Münkler in his excellent study, "Der Große Krieg" ("The Great War").

When, on Sept. 27, the Allies penetrated the Siegfried Line, the German army's last defensive position to the West, the Supreme Army Command, under General Erich Ludendorff, knew that the war had been lost. The quartermaster general suffered a nervous breakdown. The next day, he asked the Kaiser to approve the initiation of cease-fire negotiations. So much for the stab in the back that politicians on the home front had supposedly inflicted on the brave military.

Today Versailles is seen as a cardinal error, with the French playing the role of the victor seeking revenge. In truth, however, it was the United States that did not live up to its responsibility.

Wilson drafted a new world order, in which all nations were granted a right to self-determination. But when it came to stepping into America's new role as a hegemon, Congress withdrew its support by forcing the president to agree to a strict policy of nonintervention. The Europeans were on their own once again, but this time it was in a different configuration than before the beginning of the war.

The British, who had entered the war as the world's creditors, emerged from it as debtors to the United States. While the French were one of the victorious powers, they were in fact no longer a major military power. Fearing their neighbor to the east, they dug themselves into a bunker system stretching more than 1,000 kilometers (620 miles), but it was more of a psychological bulwark than an effective defense system, as would become apparent in 1940. Paradoxically, it was Germany that would hazard another war -- precisely what the Treaty of Versailles was intended to avert.

The indecisiveness of the United States, its political elites divided over how to assume their role as a new world power, was already apparent in the peace negotiations. The resulting peace was one with conditions that were insufficiently draconian to permanently weaken the German Reich, and yet too severe not to give rise to a desire among the losers to reverse the peace when the next opportunity arose.

From Germany's perspective, the victors' demands were not only immoderate, but also served as a constant reminder of defeat. Germany's total war reparations, enforced with massive threats, amounted to 132 billion gold marks, payable in 66 annual installments, together with 26 percent of the value of its exports. Present-day Germany was still suffering the consequences until 2010, when Berlin made its last interest payment on foreign bonds it had issued after World War I to satisfy the Allies' demands for reparations. The most agonizing aspect of the war repayment was its duration.

Hardly anyone was as familiar with the Germans' smoldering resentment (or knew how to take advantage of it) as the private from Munich. Within three years, Adolf Hitler went from being an unknown veteran to the "King of Munich," a man who could fill the city's largest beer halls with his appearances.

The fact that the Allies had forced Germany to sign the Treaty of Versailles was a central theme of Hitler's speeches. At his rallies, he never failed to mention "shameful and humiliating peace" that had condemned Germany to "servitude" for the foreseeable future. Humiliation at the hands of the victorious powers became a collective trauma that united Germans far beyond the circle of supporters of the rising Nazi Party.

What was initially a psychological problem became an existential one when the economic crisis began. Until 1929, the German economy had managed to keep itself more or less afloat, partly as a result of American investments. Now the creditors from abroad were withdrawing their money, plunging the German Reich directly into the vortex of the Great Depression. The deflationary policy of Reich Chancellor Heinrich Brüning drove unemployment numbers to well over six million.

Despite the defeat in 1918, the pride of the German officer corps was still intact. It was clear to everyone, beginning with the general staff, that the French would never have achieved victory on their own. But covetousness arises when a victor is only a victor through the help of others. Hitler, at any rate, was confident that a second effort could correct the failures of the first.

Gratification


When Germany invaded France in 1940, the Wehrmacht had learned from past mistakes. In the first war, German attacks had frequently failed due to an inability to bring up additional artillery and infantry quickly enough to preserve the momentum of attack achieved by shock troops. Now the tank force was being combined with dive bombers, which functioned as airborne artillery. This enabled German troops to advance at speeds previously believed to be impossible. German troops reached the Meuse River in two days, and after six weeks France was forced to capitulate. It was the greatest defeat of a proud nation in military history. When the French laid down their arms, half of their soldiers had not even arrived in the combat zone yet.

For the majority of German officers, the victory over France was the gratification they had desired. But for their commander-in-chief, the western campaign was merely ome stage in a much more extensive war of conquest. As a result, the world was transformed into a hell on earth once again, and what began as a war of revenge ended in a war of extermination more complete and boundless than the massive slaughter of World War I.

What was to be done with Germany? The Allies now faced the same question a second time, in the summer of 1944. By the time the Americans had landed in Normandy, everyone knew that the Third Reich's days were numbered. But the victorious powers were confronted with the same problem they had faced a quarter of a century earlier: How to prevent the Germans from planning the next war soon after their defeat.

One of the men who had been pondering this issue for some time was US Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau. He believed that the Germans were a people with an unquenchable thirst for war. Because there would no longer be anyone to stand in the way after a third attempt to achieve global dominance, the goal was to figure out how to prevent them from doing so. It was a question of survival, not just for Europe for all of mankind.

In September 1944, Morgenthau submitted a plan to the president in which he proposed the large-scale destruction of German heavy industry. Anything that could be used to produce weapons was to be destroyed, seized or placed under international control. This meant the elimination of Germany's chemical, steel and electrical industries.

The Germans were not to be allowed to ever produce anything again that was "more deadly than toasters, vacuum cleaners and hair curlers," Morgenthau wrote in the extended version of his "Plan for Germany," which he published as a book after the end of the war. "If the German people are to make the best use of their soil, they are going to have to substitute the work of human hands for machinery for several years to come."

Morgenthau had influential adversaries. Both the American State Department and senior military officials stationed in Germany were strictly opposed to sending Germany back to the Middle Ages. They believed such a step would lead to millions of starvation deaths because Germany would be incapable of feeding itself without producing goods for export. But the treasury secretary had both the strength of his convictions and the ear of President Roosevelt. Their wives were good friends, and the two couples socialized with each other.

'Castrate the German People'

In addition, Roosevelt had little sympathy for what he called the "Huns." As a child, he had frequently accompanied his father, who had a heart condition, to the German spa town of Bad Nauheim for treatments and had developed a clear distaste for the country and its people. One of Roosevelt's anecdotes was the story of how he had been arrested four times in one day for such minor offences as spitting out cherry stones. "We have got to be tough with Germany," Roosevelt told to his secretary of state. "You either have to castrate the German people or you have got to treat them so they can't just go on reproducing people who want to continue as in the past."

Morgenthau seemed to prevail at a meeting between Roosevelt and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill in Quebec in September 1944. Churchill, who initially had strong objections to the plan, snapped at Morgenthau, saying that he would not allow himself to be chained to a "dead Germany." But then money came into play and decided the issue. Churchill urgently needed a new loan from the United States. With that hurdle out of the way, the two commanders-in-chief placed their initials under a document agreeing on the transformation of Germany into a "country principally agricultural and pastoral in character."

That the Germans were eventually spared this fate is thanks the US public outcry over the plan and fear of the Russians.

If Roosevelt dreamed of a long-term alliance with the Soviet Union, his successor Harry S. Truman had no illusions about the character of Russian dictator Joseph Stalin. Churchill, too, did not have to be convinced of Stalin's malevolence. "We mustn't weaken Germany too much -- we may need her against Russia," Churchill had whispered to his foreign secretary, Anthony Eden, in 1943. "I do not want to be left alone in Europe with the bear."

In contrast to 1918, the Western powers chose generosity. Those who lived in the Western occupation zones benefited from the kind of post-war reconstruction that the United States had failed to push through in Versailles. Those unlucky enough to experience the end of the war in the eastern part of Germany bore the burden of the war, which should have been carried by the entire country. Another 44 years would pass before this injustice eliminated.

The pacification of the Germans through benevolent reeducation was an experiment that had never been attempted, and it proved to be surprisingly successful for everyone involved. Ironically, the nation that had brought large-scale wars to the continent twice was transformed into a model democracy and a force for European integration.

Learning Their Lesson

Everything was done differently this time. Instead of rubbing the faces of the defeated in the extent of their humiliation by demanding submission, the United States carefully guided the country back into the family of nations. The victors also practiced leniency in the courts, limiting their prosecutions to a small number of leading war criminals. The majority escaped with a formal interrogation, with which the requirements of denazification were satisfied.

Only two decades later, in the Auschwitz trials starting in 1963, did a true investigation of the crimes begin. A look at the lives of people like Kurt Franz, the last commandant of the Treblinka extermination camp, reveals that a former Nazi thug and mass murderer was able to live scot-free in Germany until the early 1960s.

The Germans learned their lesson. The notion that they could never be allowed to possess weapons again is a view that the Germans, only too happy to be disarmed, completely internalized over the years. Pacifism had become national policy by the time the peace movement began. Even the swearing in of new recruits by torchlight can be a source of discomfort.

When the Germans decide to do something, they do it thoroughly. In a strange reversal of roles, they had assumed the role of the reformed criminal who lectures others on how to bring about peace without weapons. In 1989, many still believed that it was important to cling to German partition, so as to contain the ghosts of the past. In West Germany, the motto "Nie wieder Deutschland" ("Germany, Never Again") appeared on banners next to the East German slogan "We are One People."

To this day, the mistrust among Germans hasn't disappeared completely. In the European debate, the suspicion that things could change drastically once again is a subliminal but clearly perceptible motif. Hardly any appeal to European solidarity makes do without a reference to the war and the resulting obligation to keep the peace. Integration into Europe is seen as a sort of self-shackling of the German giant, intended to relieve its neighbors' fears of the country's size and economic might.

Too Young

British economic historian Niall Ferguson has pointed out that Germany's achievements during the course of European integration roughly correspond to the burdens imposed on the country by the Treaty of Versailles. When net contributions to the budget of the European Community are taken into account, Germany paid more than 163 billion deutsche marks to the rest of Europe between 1958 and 1992. Ferguson has also calculated 379.8 billion in "transfer payments without counter-performance."

During the euro crisis, there has been a noticeable decline in the Germans' desire to contribute to peace in Europe through transfer payments. But the ongoing impact of the memory of both world wars remains evident in the fact that an EU-critical party has yet to win seats in German parliament.

Until his death in 1967, Morgenthau remained convinced that the Germans could not be pacified. "You're too young to know whether the Morgenthau Plan was a mistake,"

You are too young to be able to evaluate whether the Morgenthau plan was a mistake," he told his biographer when he tried to get Morgenthau to admit that his plan was wrong. "And I'll bet you -- though I won't be around to collect -- that you're going to have to fight Germany again before you die."

Like many historians, the former US treasury secretary saw World War I as the beginning -- not of a Thirty Years' War but of a Hundred Years' War.
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I'm not going to claim to be a historian, but almost everything I've read about the end of WWI suggests that even if the US continued the status quo through 1917 and 18, the Allied armies would have still beaten the Central Powers. I think the hundred days showed their capabilities fairly clearly. Moreover... the Treaty of Versailles shines as a beacon of generosity compared to what Germany inflicted when it defeated it's foes.
In contrast to 1918, the Western powers chose generosity.
It seems odd to me that the article praises the experiment at the end of WWII, an act which required the complete occupation of Germany, the trial of it's senior leadership, and the restructuring of its government by occupying powers while at the same time saying Versailles was too harsh. Perhaps the correct answer would have been to do the same in 1918 then? Or is the article seriously suggesting that at the end of WWI the allies should have spent money to reconstruct Germany even as Northern France was a blackened wasteland? While I agree Versailles was a mistake... I don't see how the peace could have possibly been more lenient at that stage and have been even politically possible

That said...given the evidence Thanas presented in the other thread I was surprised at how uncritical the article was of the American conduct at the end of WWII.
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Paradox_Fanatic wrote:I'm not going to claim to be a historian, but almost everything I've read about the end of WWI suggests that even if the US continued the status quo through 1917 and 18, the Allied armies would have still beaten the Central Powers.
With what, with the french army being unable to field defences and a huge chunk of the armies from the east coming back?
I think the hundred days showed their capabilities fairly clearly.
The hundred days was done only by the threat of US intervention. Had Germany not been forced to take such a massive gamble it would never have happened.
Moreover... the Treaty of Versailles shines as a beacon of generosity compared to what Germany inflicted when it defeated it's foes.
The only case you have here is Brest Litovsk and that was never supposed to be a permanent solution. It was a way to fix the resource problems caused by the (illegal) blockade.
It seems odd to me that the article praises the experiment at the end of WWII, an act which required the complete occupation of Germany, the trial of it's senior leadership, and the restructuring of its government by occupying powers while at the same time saying Versailles was too harsh. Perhaps the correct answer would have been to do the same in 1918 then? Or is the article seriously suggesting that at the end of WWI the allies should have spent money to reconstruct Germany even as Northern France was a blackened wasteland? While I agree Versailles was a mistake... I don't see how the peace could have possibly been more lenient at that stage and have been even politically possible
Simple - Wilson grows some balls, shows the others who writes the checks and pulls of his idea of self-determination. Voila, almost all of the ethnic strife resolved. The problem with Versailles was not just the reparations (which were way harsher than what Germany paid after WWII) but also the way the entire blame was fixed on Germany.
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I'll need to review it, but my understanding is that the hundred days showed that the allied armies had at last achieved the technical and tactical skill to eradicate German defense lines. And assuming there is no last great German offensive, everything I've ever read has indicated that Germany is on the edge of total economic and social collapse and cannot afford the war to continue much longer Americans or no. And given that the Western Allies stopped the Spring Offensive with their existing forces, it seems unlikely that the German Army would be able to force better results given time is not on their side.

And A-H is going to collapse soon either way, their defeats having minimal US involvement and their homefront collapsing rapidly as well. While the Bulgarian military situation is much better, again they seem to be destined to be knocked out in short order as well though perhaps on much more their own terms. Similarly the Middle Eastern Fronts seem destined for an Entente victory fairly soon (though like the Bulgarians perhaps on better terms for the Ottomans).
The only case you have here is Brest Litovsk and that was never supposed to be a permanent solution. It was a way to fix the resource problems caused by the (illegal) blockade.
While I generally take your word on these things, this contradicts most of what I've read regarding German intentions in the East. By non-permanent do you mean the Germans intended to undo the dismantlement of the Russian State immediately after the war and allow the Soviets to reoccupy the area? Because that seems unlikely (as does any repudiation of the financial reparations) in a timeline where the Germans are victorious. And as for the armies coming back, the German government does not seem willing to abandon the eastern occupations entirely even with the American threat, how much more is likely to be transferred than was historically when there is no such threat?
Simple - Wilson grows some balls, shows the others who writes the checks and pulls of his idea of self-determination. Voila, almost all of the ethnic strife resolved. The problem with Versailles was not just the reparations (which were way harsher than what Germany paid after WWII) but also the way the entire blame was fixed on Germany.
Which ethnic issues here are you thinking of in particular that would be resolved other than the Germans in Austria, CS, and Poland? I just don't see any Allied government possibly accepting a peace treaty where the Germans gain territory after the war or seem likely to gain territory in the immediate future. The Americans had clout but that seems beyond what any French or British government could survive signing (possibly in both a political and personal sense).

The reparations point I can see, though I would point out that over a decade later very little of the initial amount had been paid anyway and Germany never even made the slightest effort to obeying the Treaty in this regard despite the Allies reducing the amount downward several times. Most sources I've read have stated that the Weimar Republic deliberately wrecked its own economy rather than pay (though I'm far less sure on the validity of that theory). I'm having a hard time seeing the reparations as particularly unreasonable in this light and in the context of the Entente's proven willingness to negotiate lower payments in the aftermath of the war. Britain only recently paid off its war debt to the US so the German example is hardly exceptional, especially seeing as how they didn't pay any from 1932 to 1953 and some parts of the debt were deliberately delayed until German reunification (which was seen as basically forever at the time).

As for the war guilt clause, I can see the problems with it but I also think that given the complete collapse of Germany's major allies, there is no other country left to absorb the blame. Given A-H is gone (so they certainly can't be blamed) and that the Tsarist government is not only gone but the Tsar dead, Germany does seem to be the only country guilty of aggressive action remaining. Moreover.... I found MKSheppard's argument very convincing in this thread http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 2&t=121358 regarding Germany's primacy of culpability.
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Thanas wrote:With what, with the french army being unable to field defences and a huge chunk of the armies from the east coming back?
You (and the article) are severely overstating the effect of the mutinies on the capabilities of the French Army. They were still perfectly capable of 'fielding defences' and continued corps/army size offensive operations throughout the second half of 1917.

Also did laugh at this:

Throughout most of the war, the Germans were tactically superior to their opponents. What they lacked in materiel and manpower they managed to make up through battlefield strategy.

Too bad in attritional warfare it's material and manpower and not vague notions of tactical skills that count.
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Sorry, I was occupied by work a bit.
thejester wrote:
Thanas wrote:With what, with the french army being unable to field defences and a huge chunk of the armies from the east coming back?
You (and the article) are severely overstating the effect of the mutinies on the capabilities of the French Army. They were still perfectly capable of 'fielding defences' and continued corps/army size offensive operations throughout the second half of 1917.
Can you give me a link to research or some notes, because this pretty much contradicts nearly everything I have read.
Also did laugh at this:

Throughout most of the war, the Germans were tactically superior to their opponents. What they lacked in materiel and manpower they managed to make up through battlefield strategy.

Too bad in attritional warfare it's material and manpower and not vague notions of tactical skills that count.
I find nothing wrong with the statement per se as it is simply stating (within the context of the article) that the German army managed to do more with less.
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