Darth Tedious wrote:
I'm still waiting to see an explanation of how the AT-AT would be an advantage to the UFP...
My guess is the trekkies view the AT-AT as slow and unwieldy with poor defenses
They seem to be oblivious to the fact that the Federation has NO ARMY, ground combat is conducted solely by starfleet personnel, and not specially trained people, actual ship crews are impressed as soldiers!
Whereas the Empire has the Stormtrooper Corps
Making matters worse is that AT BEST the Federation has mortars (From TOS) and the Argo from Nemesis. And from what we've seen of those examples, they're both pathetic
Where as the Empire not only has the AT-AT's but AT-ST's, hover tanks, numerous different walkers and repulsorcraft, E-Webs, battle droids, and Chemical Weapons, and the Stormies wear NBC gear all the time
And as others noted the AT-AT's design is intended to strike fear in hearts of the Empire's enemies, the walkers are but a small component in Imperial ground warfare, the only reason the Empire lacked air support on Hoth was because of the Rebel shield
The Scenario is simple...Admiral:
Intelligence has determined that the Empire plans to take Rigel, as our fleet doesn't have a chance, our only hope is to fight the Imperials on the ground.
ALL Personnel from the 5th and 12th fleets are to beam down to Rigel Immediately and defend the planet against Imperial ground forces as they deploy.
*A huge mass of starfleet personnel forms outside Rigel's capital, they are armed with phasers, Isomagnetic Disintergrators, mortars, and Argos*Blue Shirt:
(handling an Isomagnetic Disintergrator) I'm not qualifed for this thing, I joined up to catalog gaseous anomalies, not fight like some primordial apeGold Shirt:
(getting into an Argo) Tell me about it, scrubbing out EPS conduits with a Dental sanitizer would be heaven compared to this. I've got to drive some Red shirt lieutenant who thinks he's some kind of "General", yeah buddy I enjoy the Normandy holosim as much as the next guy, it doesn't make me a military genius
*the sounds of several sonic booms can be heard as the Imperial drop-ships descend and they can be seen landing just over the horizon*Red Shirt:
Okay everyone the Imperials landed ten Klicks to the east we can expect their attack to emanate from that directionBlue Shirt:
What's a "Klick"?Gold Shirt:
A kilometer...I think
*loud noises can be heard coming from the east, and signs of fear and terror are felt in every starfleeter*Red Shirt:
(looking through binoculars and adjusting the settings) Oh my God! (he turns his head facing the Gold Shirt) Drive West Now! Blue Shirt:
Hey! What about me!Red Shirt:
(in near unison with all other strafleet commanders throughout the mass) RETREAT!
*Now coming into visual range are 12 AT-AT walkers with 24 AT-ST's, a couple dozen hovertanks are pulling up the rear and speederbikes are starting to harass the eastern most part of the Federation lines*Imperial Officer:
Sir, the Federations are dispersingImperial Commander:
We can't risk them going to ground, have the nerve gas deployed into the heart of their "formation". Haven't these primitive fools ever heard of a phalanx at the very least?
And have the Bombers hit their avenues of retreat.
*With all routes blocked by bombing and starfleeters succumbing to Imperial Chemical warfare the remnants surrender"Blue Shirt:
(On seeing the hordes of stormtroopers disgorge from their walkers and transports) Jesus Christ! Is San Fransisco trying to kill us!?
When it comes down to it, on the ground...
Starfleet = Rent-A-Cops(TM) armed with tasers
Imperial Stormtroopers = U.S. Army
Arguing the finer points AT-AT design is just fruitless in a ST vs. SW debate, none of the Trek races remotely have the kind of military that the Empire fields
Aerial support is an extreme rarity in Trek ground combat, not that it matters as the Empire would have de facto
aerial superiority (shuttlecraft would be TIE fodder)
The Trek races almost solely rely on 'men in uniform with guns', "infantry" is an incorrect term to describe what we see in Trek. And none of the Trek races employ any armor, the Argo is just a buggy with a rear mounted gun. Where as with the Empire, picture every piece of equipment the U.S. Army uses (guns, NBC gear, Tanks, etc.) and put all that on anabolic steroids and you wind up with the Stormtrooper Corps. kit (blasters, trooper armor, Walkers/Hoveertanks, etc.)