We saw no such aftermath in the case of the S8472 blast.......in fact, we didn't see any aftermath at all. Hence, we can only assume that the minimum firepower of the S8472 bioship cluster is 5E16 megatons, while the lone DS1 had a superlaser blast of 1E22 megatons.
As you could easy claim, that the blast caused by S8472 is around E30 megatons. (I do not care about the 5, because there is no reason to do so, if you are wiedling around the 10^X factors)
Do you have proof that only under those circumstances those calcs would be correct?
You mean: Do I have any proof that only the planet is factored in besidethe calculation itself?
Just freaking LOOK AT IT. Do you see anything about the solar system? No.
We're looking at a civilization that can build tens of thousands of mile long warships at a rate of several per day, and by a single manufacturer. They have ships which putter around at several thousand Gs. I think it's safe to say that they easily wield that much energy on a routine basis.
We are looking at a formular which could be handled by a 10 year old boy.
Assuming said nuclear blast is caused by a device with sufficient yield
Depending on the situation 20 megatons is more than enough.
Jesus. One extream example where the rest of the solar system factors in quite extream.
In a normal solar system the gravitation between earth and sun is enough to keep us in orbit. Factored in? No.
The rotation energy (earth) is around 10^29 J. Faktored in?
All the kinetic energy of earth: 10^33 J.
You might want to look up how the gravitational binding energy is defined. It is the energy released if a nebula is becoming a planet.
(At least in the formula used)
That assumption has one huge logical flaw- if every ship has DS-level firepower, they could have destroyed the planet with a single ship.
You will end up with this problem anyway. The only way to explain it away is giving the borg planetary shields which are quite able to absorb this much power.
It does not matter, if they have death star powerlevel, double death star power level, half death star power level, 1/1000 death star power level.
It quite leads to the same flaws. So hell, you do not blow it up with one shot, you shoot several times. You do not reduce it to dust but to some big rocks.Still, it is not done.
It also runs into massive problems when we compare it with other examples of firepowr we've seen in ST.
Well, what a surprise. And true for so many Movies, Series etc.
If single ships can one-shot planets, why did it take 30 ships to perform a BDZ in DS9:'The Die Is Cast'?
Why don't the borg use airborne nanobots?
(As always you may explain it away with the founders using some kind of shilds or forcefields to keep the planet stable)
(Not that it was my point, that in several hundred episodes one writer would break the barrier of sillyness)
If ship shields can withstand DS-level firepower, how did the Enterprise-D lose its shields to a 400 gigawatt particle beam in TNG:'The Survivors'?
The Enterprise D is quite older than the Voyager. And it was still able to withstand photon torpedos. (Which have under any assumption a quite higher yield) So there was something about this beam interacting with the shields. (I guess thats why the E-E got multiphase shields.)
(It gets even stranger, if you consider 7of9 is able to survive beeing hit by this amount of energy.)
So surprise: The technology in ST hase more than increase by the factor of 1000+++ between TNG and Voyager.
Darn it, there are several of similar problems within any movie, serie, PnP, computer game etc. (And that this is what I was saying all the freaking time)
You just try to hold on to the sillyness in StarWars while condeming the sillyness in StarTrek.
This is all I am saying.
Was the hole blow up Planet in Voyager silly? Yes, of course.
Was it silly in StarWars? Yes, of course.
Something like this is always silly.
If both StarTrek and StarWars would been written by Astrophysics, would they look different? Yes they would.
Would they be better as Movies? I doubt it.
Because silly, if it comes to physics is not silly if it comes to the story.
(I mean in StarWars it was a big problem to hit a hole with 1m radius (first death star).
Quote:"Not even a computer could do it."
Well, laser guided missiles from around 2000 had twice the precision.
Same thing with energy sources. The time StarWars was made it was all about fusion and fission. (The hyper matter was introduced later)
The time TNG was made it was about M/AM. (Which started to behave unlike anything in physics very soon)
The time SG was made it was about vacuum energy.
Well, if StarWars would be written today, I guess they would use ZPMs or something around this line.
But nobody in an official capacity uses anything but kilotons or megatons for high yield weapons
Well, for now. I would not be so sure about that. Consider that TNT has not the importance it used to have.