Why? Because of causality. In essence, if you destroy something in the past, you need not destroy it in the future. A plan that relies on sending a "bomb" backwards in time is doomed to fail, since there would be no motivation for it to be launched should it suceed.
I addressed this objection already. Using this same argument, that would mean picard is not endangering humanity either. If picard causes an anomaly that goes back in time and stops life from forming on earth then preventing picard from causing the anomaly in the future since there will be no picard. This way of looking at the paradox doesn't seem to hold up since Q says that picard destroys humanity.
It's also possible that the use of anti-time provides a loophole for the paradox where after picard destroys humanity we don't need picard to do it again in the future in order for humanity to stay destroyed.
Now, the first thing to be brought forward would be the typical fiction mechanic of time alterations creating new parallel universes, and know what? That's the only possible way to explain the godawful temporal mess in the TNG "All Good Things..." episode. As Chuck pointed out in his reviews, if the anomaly travels back in time, it should have been there when the Pasteur got to the coordinates, before they created it (thus altering their actions, and preventing them from starting it, as I pointed out with the causality problem), so the trek-xplanation is, actually, that the Anomaly affects a parallel timeline, same with the "present" Enterprise, wich has no recollection of the Anomaly, even though it is a known phenomenom back at the time of the Farpoint event.
We can see that in an enterprise episode like "twilight" that it took time for the changes to affect the timeline. Q transported picard to timelines where he was able to see the anomoly appear as it traveled back in time. The reason why it never existed before the Pasteur got there was because the anomoly was not created yet and had not started to move back in time. Even if parallel universes were involved this would only show that the anomoly affects every parallel universe. Plus when the anomoly was stopped and no one had a recollection of the universe, what makes you think that wasn't a newly created parallel universe? or a repaired timeline in the same universe?
This tells us that Q is not only displacing Picard through time, but through timelines, wich is a big strike aganist the whole plan. It requires Q powers to coordinate such a thing, since, without Q's intervention (Allowing Picard to exist in several timelines), the whole thing wouldn't have come to happen in the first place, because of causality.
3 timelines all affected by the same anomaly though? If picard would have failed to collapse the anomaly there would have been no humanity here's the quote:
PICARD: Are you saying that it worked? We collapsed the anomaly?
Q: Is that all this meant to you? Just another spatial anomaly, just another day at the office?
PICARD: Did it work?
QUE: Well, you're here, aren't you? You're talking to me, aren't you?
PICARD: What about my crew?
Q: The anomaly, my ship, my crew, I suppose you're worried about your fish, too. Well, if it puts your mind at ease, you've saved humanity, once again.
it's implied that since picard is alive that humanity is saved.
PICARD: Are you saying that it worked? We collapsed the anomaly?
Q: Is that all this meant to you? Just another spatial anomaly, just another day at the office?
PICARD: Did it work?
QUE: Well, you're here, aren't you? You're talking to me, aren't you?
PICARD: What about my crew?
Q: The anomaly, my ship, my crew, I suppose you're worried about your fish, too. Well, if it puts your mind at ease, you've saved humanity, once again.
Now, assuming (and that's a big assumption) that this issue can be avoided and the plan set in motion, there are other big problems, the first being that as the Anomaly goes back in time, it becomes larger. Now, we're talking about the Star Wars galaxy, wich has far older civilizations than the Trek galaxy, with much more powerful technology, as well as the Force. This almost guarantees that the Anomaly would be discovered long before it has enough impact. Why? It takes several billion years (Around 3.5 billion years) for the anomaly to grow to take 1/4th of the Milky Way galaxy, wich is plenty of time for it to be noticed by such advanced civilizations.
ehh in just a few decades the anomaly was so big that the flag ship of the federation was just barely able to collapse it and blew up in the process. And you think they'll be able to do anything about it when it's 1/4th the size of their galaxy? right...
Plus without Q to help them through time, the anomoly should instantly destroy the galaxy. There won't be people a billion years ago that will see the anomoly since the anomoly would have prevented life from ever happening to begin with. Plus even if what you say were possible, they still have to realize that the anomoly is traveling backward in time and not forward in time and getting smaller as time goes on. Plus they need to figure out how to collapse it.
Now, if the Anomaly was detected (and yes, that's an if, but a plausible one), it stands to reason that it would be studied, and conclusions would indicate it was shrinking. So we could bet that there'd be a small fleet of scientific vessels waiting for the Enterprise (even military ones, for security) as the point of the Anomaly's dissapearance approaches (It would be a major astronomical event). So the pressence of Star Wars forces would probably prevent continuation of the process, wich, again, would cause a causality paradox, or simply spawn yet another parallel universe.
The anomaly would form only after the enterprise completed it's mission since the anomoly is formed by the 3 tachyon pulses. And since all life would be destroyed after the anomoly is created, there would be scientific vessels to look at the anomaly.
And that's the final and major strike aganist this plan: Parallel universes. Even in the event of everything working out, the only result would be the destruction of an alternate reality. Our adventurous federation ship would sit in the void wondering why all the Star Wars galaxy is still around, making the whole plan not only unfeasible, but pointless.
or maybe the prime universe gets destroyed and we're left with an alternate universe. According to the impression we get from Q though, it's simple that the anomoly is formed in the future and it goes back in time and stops the universe from forming and yet does not need an initial cause for it afterward for it to happen anyway. Perhaps because anti-time is involved.
And that's not considering another major flaw of the whole thing: The only person to recall any event from "All good things..." is Picard. Remember how they disbelieved him when he first claimed he had been shifting through time? Remember how they thought he was delusional in the future? The Federation would most certainly question the veracity of Picard's report on the whole mess (if he chose to make it, more on this in a moment), and even if they accept "act of Q" as a mission report, Picard is not Data, he is not an astrophysics expert who knows what the hell was going on, it's probable that the details of all the procedure were lost to him. And knowing him, it is even more problable that he chose not to mention the whole thing because, you know, he wouldn't risk endangering all of humanity by letting idiots like marshXYZ get their hands on such a procedure.
Oh picard knows the details of the future or he wouldn't have forewarned his crew about what the future hold for them allowing them a chance to change it. Picard needed to remember the details of the procedure in order to do the same things in the other time periods. Since picard knows about it and picard's alive then the knowledge is there. He probably documented the whole thing in his ship log too
But, of course, rabid fanboys don't understand what character motivations are, they only care about capabilities. We could have the Borg, for example, rush in to save a planet full of teary eyed orphans and their puppies, and have them in a color-filled daycare center, where they are educated on the virtues of individualism, until they are brought to their new home. Do the Borg have the capability to pull off such a thing? Well, of course. But, would they ever do such a thing?
All it takes is one psycho with a desire to destroy star wars (I GUARANTEE you such people are out there) and the use of federation technology. It does not have to be a character we know that does it.
And, as a final word, reliance on one-hit-wonders is stupid. It betrays you motivation, marshy, you don't care about rational debate, just about winning. If you were as rational as you claim, you'd see the flaws in these one-time events. They are usually one-time because they tend to be freakish occurences. Want an example? The Red Matter induced time-space bridge. Remember how Spock was trying to fly away from it? Remember how both the Narada and the Enterprise were destroyed/almost destroyed by the Black Hole? The time-space bridge was a freakish accident, something unexpected caused by just the right conditions being met randomly, yet you expect Trek to routinely use it to jump to alternate universes? Specially when the only person who knows that it worked, namely Spock Prime, went through and is assumed to be dead by the original timeline?
This procedure is proven to work in a well known episode. What's the point of having the anomoly twice? "oh there's that anomoly again, let's just do the static warp shell thing again". Plus the probability of that event happening by chance twice is astronomical. Actually the only reason it happened once was because Q kinda nudged picard into doing it which wouldn't happen under normal circumstances.
As far as one-hit wonders go in aliens in general, federation, klingon, and romulan space all together make up maybe 1/10th of the galaxy tops according to this map.
if we truely want to pit star trek and star wars we should pick the strongest of star trek against the strongest of star wars. It's not my fault that most of the star wars galaxy is in control by the galactic empire or the rebellion after the galactic empire fell. You guys are left with very few options. I have a feeling things will look even more dire when another star trek movie or series come out. They still have a lot of exploring to do
Oh, and let's not forget that if the origin of the bridge is a universe where the super-anomaly is already happening, going back in time would only make things worse, since the anomaly would still be there, only bigger. Ooops, you didn't think of that either, did you?
This issue is only considered in the event that an anti-time eruption is capable of growing to the size of the universe in the universe's lifetime. Most likely the anomoly is located in a region of space where the universe had not expanded to yet so it won't even be there to affect anything in the star trek universe.
But in the event it does, they probably only have the option to evacuate before they shoot their final pulse. Once they go back in time they create an alternate universe where they don't engage the third pulse and are safe.
Now, my apologies to the rest of the board for joining the dogpiling, but it is the first time I meet one of these rabid fanboys directly (as in, not in the archives), and it's been grating on my nerves. I mean, it's not like there's a whole site with evidence, examples and even tools to enhance reasoning. Oh wait.
I know how you feel, I met my first star wars fanboy recently too. I enjoyed taking him down. It is kinda funny how you need to outnumber me like 30 to 1 and still aren't much more effective at proving anything.
I'll give you this much though, I was almost too lazy to even read your dribble.
As for you, marshmellow, you're an idiot, of the type that could go beyond his idiocy, but doesn't want to. Your attitude in this thread is proof of that. And that a low level poster like myself can see that is pretty damnign. Now respond to the valind points being thrown at you in this thread, or go fuck yourself.
Speaking of attitudes, it's ones like yours that create people like me.
Perhaps you should apologize to the board and take some blame. Your arguments are shit and you are shit. You are a low level poster I can tell heh. My advice is to not quit your day job. Go fuck yourself as well you star wars fanatic who's got a penis that makes yoda's penis look big in comparison
Loser