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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-10 09:50pm
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I'm looking to get rid of my Char B1s by 1929-1930. New tanks in development at the moment.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-10 10:01pm
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Thing is with the Char, was there any tech gap precluding them being built or was it all political?



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-10 10:04pm
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Huh? Why would the Dutch having a naval station in their Caribbean territories cause any concern from a Colombia that has more important things to worry about?


More important things? Whatever could be more important than an island inside my economic exclusion zone that harbours a large warfleet for an imperialist power?

Furthermore, I didn't realize I had to specify that tiny little islands inside my economic exclusion zone were sovereign Colombian territory, nor that they could be claimed by foreign powers for the purposes of establishing large naval bases on my fucking doorstep. :)


I'm so telling Stas you called one of his Socialist Brothers an imperialist state. :mrgreen:

And, seriously, 15 destroyers, 5 cruisers, and 2 armored cruisers are a "large warfleet"? And Karmic's fleet's pretty old anyway.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-10 10:20pm
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Huh? Why would the Dutch having a naval station in their Caribbean territories cause any concern from a Colombia that has more important things to worry about?


More important things? Whatever could be more important than an island inside my economic exclusion zone that harbours a large warfleet for an imperialist power?

Furthermore, I didn't realize I had to specify that tiny little islands inside my economic exclusion zone were sovereign Colombian territory, nor that they could be claimed by foreign powers for the purposes of establishing large naval bases on my fucking doorstep. :)


I'm so telling Stas you called one of his Socialist Brothers an imperialist state. :mrgreen:

And, seriously, 15 destroyers, 5 cruisers, and 2 armored cruisers are a "large warfleet"? And Karmic's fleet's pretty old anyway.


The size of the fleet aside I will go with this: Unless someone claim it specifically I think we are all operating under the assumption that historic colonies retain the historic European masters. Thus most of the islands in the Caribbean would belong to a European power unless it is specifically stated otherwise. Thus Bean and I had to figure a buyout plan for the BVI and I waged a brief war against the French for Antigua while also helping Spain against the US in 1898 so as to gain Puerto Rico and the USVI.

In other words to Ryan if it was a European colony and you didn't specifically claim it then it ain't yours.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-10 11:14pm
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So.. can we post anything on the IC thread?



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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
So.. can we post anything on the IC thread?



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You need to find someone to control the Soviet Union though, before you do stuff.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-10 11:27pm
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So you're fully out then?

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Sorry to hear that, you'll be missed.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-10 11:35pm
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I have a very busy 3 weeks of work ahead of me. I'm not sure that I'll be able to participate in the game well enough, and I'm not sure I'll be able to return afterwards either.



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Thing is with the Char, was there any tech gap precluding them being built or was it all political?


As far as I know, the Char B1s were basically mid-1920s technology. They just took forever to develop. They're not necessarily bad tanks though, which makes me wonder why Fin wants to unload his instead of converting them to SP howitzers or something. ;)



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-11 01:00am
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I'm so telling Stas you called one of his Socialist Brothers an imperialist state. :mrgreen:

If they didn't want to be called Imperialist, they shouldn't have taken colonies halfway around the world. And stationed fleets at them.

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And, seriously, 15 destroyers, 5 cruisers, and 2 armored cruisers are a "large warfleet"? And Karmic's fleet's pretty old anyway.


Then I wouldn't have had any trouble knocking it over, now, would I? All the less reason for it to be there in the first place.

Plus, if its a good harbour, I'd have wanted it for my own fleets in the area.

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The size of the fleet aside I will go with this: Unless someone claim it specifically I think we are all operating under the assumption that historic colonies retain the historic European masters. Thus most of the islands in the Caribbean would belong to a European power unless it is specifically stated otherwise. Thus Bean and I had to figure a buyout plan for the BVI and I waged a brief war against the French for Antigua while also helping Spain against the US in 1898 so as to gain Puerto Rico and the USVI.

In other words to Ryan if it was a European colony and you didn't specifically claim it then it ain't yours.


Don't be obtuse. Obviously I was not operating under that assumption, because if I had been, I would've claimed it from the get go. Trinidad and Tobago have been separate countries from Venezuela for quite some time, so I claimed them separately. I did not expect to have a foreign naval base 300 km from my capital because I assumed that a speck of land inside my economic exclusion zone was as good as mine.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-11 01:56am
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Okay I have Corps level locations up on my Oob, I might be adding some more details soon. In the meantime I am working on a map.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-11 02:17am
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Updated my OOB some. Still need to post a Q3 build with mobilization IBP factored in.

Currently wrestling with Google Earth to create maps of troop dispositions.

I don't plan to be unfairly secretive.



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-11 02:22am
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Can I recommend for clairty sake we go to Comment Thread II. We switched pretty regularly the last game so it just seems odd to be at 55+



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 Post subject: Re: SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I PostPosted: 2009-12-11 02:28am
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Heh, I'm still used to Bean doing this. :oops: :mrgreen:

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