[Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
Why? An all-ecompasing SF forum is better, not worse.
If someone wants to post their own universe in it, and people have in the past, they could put it in SF.
This is what the forum list will look like:
Annoucements
Science Fiction
-Subforum Pure Star Wars
-Subforum Pure Star Trek
-Subform SW/ST
Fantasy
Fanfics
-Subforum Cleaned/Completed Fanfics
Science Logic and Morality
-Subforum Debating Help
-Subforum Library
-Subforum History (if we make it a subforum)
History (if it becomes it's own forum)
etc
Have a very nice day.
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If someone wants to post their own universe in it, and people have in the past, they could put it in SF.
This is what the forum list will look like:
Annoucements
Science Fiction
-Subforum Pure Star Wars
-Subforum Pure Star Trek
-Subform SW/ST
Fantasy
Fanfics
-Subforum Cleaned/Completed Fanfics
Science Logic and Morality
-Subforum Debating Help
-Subforum Library
-Subforum History (if we make it a subforum)
History (if it becomes it's own forum)
etc
Have a very nice day.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
I'm with fgalkin on this layout (with History on the front page), as stated previously. "vs" debates are a dying sector anyway; it's better to simply have people discuss sci-fi in general, and if any "vs" debates come up, they just appear in the same place.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
That looks good and flows very naturally.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
Can we take this to a vote since it has a decent chance of approval? Or better yet, does anyone have a counter option?
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
I think it's ready for a vote, although I won't do this one myself (I've done two in the last two days, so I feel like I should lay off a bit ).
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
If we wanted ot do that we could keep itjust "Sci fi Vs" and "Sci fi" technical/discussion". The first thread can be the vs thread for everything. Technical could be where "analyiss" threads like the stuff I do go, or where people ask various questions about sci fi universes or discuss various aspects (technical or otherwise)Coyote wrote:Just to complicate matters--
Maybe start with an "All Science Fiction" section which further breaks down thusly:
Versus Threads (SWvST; & all others-- Bab5 vs. Galactica, whatever)
Pure Discussion (as it says-- discuss them on their own merits)
Maybe a section for obscure series or anything involving original content-- "Babylon 5 versus my own creation: the Black Nebula Imperium", etc(?).
Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
I see no reason to lock them, there's not a lot of activity, but there is activity (SWvST is the least active, the others continue to get new posts at a slow but steady rate).Hotfoot wrote:My suggestion is to rename OSF to simply "Science Fiction" and to lock and archive the three mentioned forums either as subforums where new users can get information from them as needed.
Making SWvST, PSW, and PST into sub-forums of a Science Fiction forum, on the other hand, seems perfectly reasonable.
Now that I think about it, though, we might just rename the SWvST forum to a "Versus Debate" forum so all the nBSG and SGU fans have an appropriate place to throw ships and troops at each other.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
Don't agree with making SWvST a general Sci-Fi debate forum. For traditional, historical reasons, I think it ought to stay as it is. Also, versus debates don't pop up often enough in the present OSF to merit splitting them all off into a dedicated SF debate forum/subforum.Ted C wrote:I see no reason to lock them, there's not a lot of activity, but there is activity (SWvST is the least active, the others continue to get new posts at a slow but steady rate).Hotfoot wrote:My suggestion is to rename OSF to simply "Science Fiction" and to lock and archive the three mentioned forums either as subforums where new users can get information from them as needed.
Making SWvST, PSW, and PST into sub-forums of a Science Fiction forum, on the other hand, seems perfectly reasonable.
Now that I think about it, though, we might just rename the SWvST forum to a "Versus Debate" forum so all the nBSG and SGU fans have an appropriate place to throw ships and troops at each other.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
We kept SW VS ST(As a subforum) for the simple reason
Nostalgia
It was the board's first and almost only forum way back in the day. It has a crap-ton of posts and it's dead. So we are stuffing it and putting it up on the mantle for all to admire.
Nostalgia
It was the board's first and almost only forum way back in the day. It has a crap-ton of posts and it's dead. So we are stuffing it and putting it up on the mantle for all to admire.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
This board was an offshoot of alt.startrek.vs.starwars. The STvSW forum should remain intact as-is, as a subforum under a general Sci-Fi forum. As far as I'm concerned, any VS. threads can go in there.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
So can we vote on this now? Because I really do not want this thread to just die.Darth Wong wrote:I'm with fgalkin on this layout (with History on the front page), as stated previously. "vs" debates are a dying sector anyway; it's better to simply have people discuss sci-fi in general, and if any "vs" debates come up, they just appear in the same place.
Iif nothing else, I would like to have some clarity on the status of the history forum.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
I'll put up a vote.
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Re: [Discussion] Archiving SWvST, PSW, PST
^Thanks, Dalton.
Much appreciated.
Much appreciated.
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