Knife wrote:
Perhaps there is a disconnect here. Why would studying be a factor here? All the state colleges and universities I know have dorms and oddly enough, have housing clustered around them with in walking and/or busing distance.
I'm mainly talking about cases in metropolitan areas where you don't need to get a dorm to reach school on time. Then again, I believe that even in the US, parent still pays for their children's education right?
Hmmm, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Perhaps it is the cultural divide between you and I. The way I see it, you shouldn't start off buying your dream house that is a close commute to your dream job. If you can, good for you, but I don't think it should be mandatory. Some of life's best lessons are when you are first starting off and learning that not everything comes free, not everything is given to you and you need to be very careful about how you live and spend money.
I don't think we should use cultural divide as a reason to disagree. Affording places to live in is more than owning a house, I'm talking about being able to rent a decent apartment and all that. Instead of paying others just to get a decent place to live in, why not pass the money to your parents instead?
Additionally, you are still ignoring that the fact that just because you are not living on your own in your early twenties, that doesn't mean you won't learn all those lessons in life.
Paying rent to your parents, paying for your own transportation and all that essentially means you are already learning about those lessons in life. Just because you live in your parents house doesn't mean your parents are paying you anything other than you being able to find a place where rent is cheaper.
There are some people in this world who are genuinely surprised, when they move out of their parents house, that toilet paper just doesn't come with the apartment.
Then those people are idiots then. Even then, there is no difference between finding that out at the age of 22 and the age of 27. How long does it take you to learn from that anyway? At the most, you learn to start buying toilet paper yourself in a matter of days once you move out of house.
Being trapped in a social-economical cycle happens much earlier than that. But go on and back up your opinion here.
Living with your parents even when you are in your twenties essentially means you are pooling in your resources to a certain extend with your parents. You are raising your overall standard of living in the house, be it a better internet connection or giving the houses the much needed repairs while getting the chance to save up.
It becomes less incentive for people to save up and provide for themselves with some sort of security net because they are trying to spend additional amount of money just to achieve to surpass their previous standard of living when they are living with their parents.
Moreover, the job security of a person in his twenties might not be good because you are new to the company and unions don't really give a damn about new workers and all that. What about trying finding jobs in an economic recession like what is occurring in the status quo?
How is your child going to repay the loans he got just to ensure he maintain his standard of living?
While I cannot say for certain that living with your parents in your twenties would guarantee you in breaking free of your social economic status, the amount of risk involve would be lesser in my opinion. At the least you can secure yourself for a longer period of time due to you saving the money you have earned over a few years.
What a bunch of bullshit. Starting out in life is hard. It costs money. If you start at 30 or 20, you still won't be able to transition to it seamlessly. I'd rather they get started as soon as they can, as soon as they are ready, so by the time they are 30, they are over that bump. I've heard the same bullshit theory on having kids. Not wanting to have kids until they are stable or are economically ready for them. While obviously, there are upper and lower limits to this, don't have kids in high school and don't have kids when you are on state support and welfare, in truth you are never really ready and unless you're uber rich, you'll never be financially ready for kids.
Instead of living on your own with no amount of savings in banks, a person who starts to live on his own at a later stage in his life can rely on his personal savings whenever he needs it. You are basing your entire case on the assumption that your children can succeed in finding a decent job and have decent wages in his early twenties.
If he fails to do that, you would end up bailing him out because he is your child.
At the same time, you are creating a system where the children are getting what they wanted, such as the houses or car they want to own with their own personal savings as opposed to relying on loans to get them.
And why shouldn't you have kids until you are economically ready for them? It is extremely expensive to have kids, and in many nations, you have to incur additional cost to ensure your kids can have additional tuition teachers to improve their grades. How do you ensure your kids will not lose out to others and can achieve high grades in a competitive environment? How do you ensure your kids are not behind others and does not end up in any of the lower level tier in the education system?
How do you ensure your child is able to survive through an education system that is quite merit based? This means in nations where not everyone can get a degree, yet people who went through a vocational school are not looked highly upon?
If people live at home to avoid bills, that's hiding from life.
They still have to pay all those bills, even if they are living with their parents. And just because you live with your parents in your twenties doesn't mean it is something that is permanent. Surely this means people who live in Asian societies like Taiwan and China are also hiding from life because they are living with their parents.
It's not hiding from life if you are going to leave the house eventually, just that you are leaving at a later stage of your life.
Why do people keep assuming that people living with parents in their twenties equate to you relying on your parents all the way?
Humans are such funny creatures. We are selfish about selflessness, yet we can love something so much that we can hate something.