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 Post subject: The Girl Genius Thread PostPosted: 2009-05-11 05:44pm
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In the vein of the Order of the Stick thread, I was wondering if anyone here was reading GG.

If not, Girl Genius is a fun steampunk/fantasy style adventure comic with Mad Science. It's really quite good and you should read it.

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*Puts on fancy hat* Girl Genius is great stuff. Go House Wulfenbach!



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Every few months I try to catch up on it, but somehow the characters are all too annoying and the story seems overcomplicated - or maybe just muddled, I suppose there isn't that much going on. The art style is nice, if busy.

The webcomic that we most need a thread on is Schlock Mercenary, or if you're restricting it to fantasy, Gunnerkrigg Court. :)



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 Post subject: Re: The Girl Genius Thread PostPosted: 2009-05-11 06:17pm
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Starglider wrote:
Every few months I try to catch up on it, but somehow the characters are all too annoying and the story seems overcomplicated - or maybe just muddled, I suppose there isn't that much going on. The art style is nice, if busy.

The webcomic that we most need a thread on is Schlock Mercenary, or if you're restricting it to fantasy, Gunnerkrigg Court. :)


Gave the GG comic a shot, and hated every second of it. This is one of those "you like it or you don't" things as far as I can tell, but I don't even like the art, I think that the characters spend less time on model than off--and even when they're on model they look like some kind of quasi-human biological horror. While it's not my cup of tea, the Gunnerkrigg Court thing is at least very pretty to look at, so that's somethin'!

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 Post subject: Re: The Girl Genius Thread PostPosted: 2009-05-11 06:31pm
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I think that the characters spend less time on model than off--and even when they're on model they look like some kind of quasi-human biological horror.


Similarly, GG's characterisation is enthusiastic, but not consistent.

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While it's not my cup of tea, the Gunnerkrigg Court thing is at least very pretty to look at, so that's somethin'!


GC's art isn't just pretty, it's also very varied, and it's one of the few webcomics that effectively use surrealist art in a serious story.



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 Post subject: Re: The Girl Genius Thread PostPosted: 2009-05-11 07:59pm
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Here's a thing. I have the first book, have talked with the Foglios and think they're swell people. I wear goggles more often than I should. I think things made out of impractical boilers are whimsical and awesome.

Yet, I can't really find the motivation to get into it. My friends gush about it, but I can't read more than a few pages before something just stops me from really getting into it, so I get distracted. At least one factor I think is the artwork, since everyone is an amorphous shapeshifter that changes proportion from frame to frame, but everything besides the faces seems more or less okay...

So I guess I don't know. But the comic really has great 'jumbled detail' art for when it comes to that.



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Total agreement with the above poster. I've got detailed blueprints of a fleet of steam-powered aetherships for a comic that runs on an alternate set of physical laws, I wear three piece suits and ascots as casual dress, and I own four top hats, but I can't seem to get into it.



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 Post subject: Re: The Girl Genius Thread PostPosted: 2009-05-11 09:00pm
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Starglider wrote:
Covenant wrote:
I think that the characters spend less time on model than off--and even when they're on model they look like some kind of quasi-human biological horror.


Similarly, GG's characterisation is enthusiastic, but not consistent.

Interesting. Can you provide an example?

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While it's not my cup of tea, the Gunnerkrigg Court thing is at least very pretty to look at, so that's somethin'!


GC's art isn't just pretty, it's also very varied, and it's one of the few webcomics that effectively use surrealist art in a serious story.

I've started reading that comic- I'm ambivalent about the art, but then I am also ambivalent about GG art. I do have a question, however: does Antimony generally keep making the correct decision in any situation, and how long will this go on for?

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*Puts on fancy hat* Girl Genius is great stuff. Go House Wulfenbach!

"Any plan where you lose your hat is a bad plan !"

I love GG. And the previously mentioned Schlock Mercenary as it happens.

As for the art, clearly that's a matter of taste; I like it.



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 Post subject: Re: The Girl Genius Thread PostPosted: 2009-05-11 09:29pm
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Well, Ch 15 is all about Annie and Kat misunderstanding a situation. Also haircuts. She doesn't handle 19 very well at all. In Ch 21 she screws up pretty big, but it's okay by the end.



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 Post subject: Re: The Girl Genius Thread PostPosted: 2009-05-11 10:00pm
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Well, Ch 15 is all about Annie and Kat misunderstanding a situation. Also haircuts. She doesn't handle 19 very well at all. In Ch 21 she screws up pretty big, but it's okay by the end.

It began grating on me by Chapter 3, I don't think I'll last that long.

EDIT: Definitely not going to last that long. Generally mediocre writing is to blame- I can't think of a single moment that stood out in a good way.

Strips like this do nothing to endear the comic too me. And someone please explain the science fair arc to me. Just HOW was Kat able to construct a zero-gravity device with a thermos and a coat hanger, why was everyone only moderately impressed, why doesn't Kat build more weird shit, etc. Will we ever get answers to those questions? Possibly, but I'm not inclined to stick around to find out. Fans of the comics, a little help here?

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 Post subject: Re: The Girl Genius Thread PostPosted: 2009-05-12 02:29am
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I would guess everyone was only moderately impressed because so much weird shit happens in that school that it's only one more thing. I mean, when you're surrounded by mythical creatures, intelligent robots, grumpy telepaths, demonic plush toys, and so forth, a student who can make seemingly magical devices is just above average.

I was mainly thinking of chapters I'd read more recently. Finish chapter 7 if you want to see her acting like an idiot and getting tossed off a bridge.



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I really like GG. Its got an interesting setting, interesting characters (to me anyway), very nice art and unlike many other web comics regular updates.

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guys, what's immigration's stand on that pack of Jaegars I've got living next door?



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I'm also quite a bit into GG. I love the setting, and how wonderfully complex it is. The whole steampunk-fantasy is done in a compelling manner.

Naysayers might criticize the art, but not everyone was born with the heavenly sent hands of Jack Kirby, and the Foglio's art style is effective, and fun to watch.

Now, I'd hate to see this thread devolve into a "I like/dislike GG" match, so, anyone got theories about what the heck happened to the Heterodyne boys?



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Alan Bolte wrote:
I would guess everyone was only moderately impressed because so much weird shit happens in that school that it's only one more thing. I mean, when you're surrounded by mythical creatures, intelligent robots, grumpy telepaths, demonic plush toys, and so forth, a student who can make seemingly magical devices is just above average.

I was mainly thinking of chapters I'd read more recently. Finish chapter 7 if you want to see her acting like an idiot and getting tossed off a bridge.

Got as far as Chapter 12. The eyeless girl and her Polish friend are moderately interesting, but that is about the only thing that held my interest. I think by this point I can say that GC is not my cup of tea.

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Now, I'd hate to see this thread devolve into a "I like/dislike GG" match, so, anyone got theories about what the heck happened to the Heterodyne boys?

The Dragons from Mars ate them, clearly! :D

On a more serious note, we sorta know what happened with Mommy Dearest, so I suppose Bill is either dead or a revenant. Barry, not sure. Probably still out there somewhere. There isn't really that much evidence we have to go on.

It's much more fun to speculate on the current plot developments! Zola, Revenant or the Other herself?

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 Post subject: Re: The Girl Genius Thread PostPosted: 2009-05-12 11:26am
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GG is a nice piece of work, but for artwork reasons, I appreciate The Phoenix Requiem way more.

It is hard to compare them storywise, but the artwork is way more superior IMO.



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Wow, the Phoenix Requiem art is really amazing. Is the story any good?

Like I said, I'm not that impressed with GG art myself, but it's adequate to tell the story, so it gets a passing grade from me. It's the setting and recently, the story, that are GG's strongest points.

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Wow, the Phoenix Requiem art is really amazing. Is the story any good?


It is hard to say. There are a lot of very interesting characters, but the story is not fleshed out and the comic is at the early stages of story development.

If you like that kind of art in print form, you should seriously check out the works of Roger Leloup - best drawer of detail I have ever seen.

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Like I said, I'm not that impressed with GG art myself, but it's adequate to tell the story, so it gets a passing grade from me. It's the setting and recently, the story, that are GG's strongest points.


Certainly.

While we are at it, a webcomic to stay the heck away from (unless you want to get an aneurysm of all the historical mistakes) is The Dreamer.

A piece of dreck and "RAH RAH USA" all the way through.



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I love the comic, and my current speculation is what the heck Robo-Other is up to at this moment. It's entirely possible that she's backing the efforts to take the castle, but it seems much more likely that she's using them as a smokescreen if so, rather than an effort that's intended to succeed.



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so howlong before Tevar Hetrodyne shows up in this thread?



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so howlong before Tevar Hetrodyne shows up in this thread?

As long as it took me to see it, of course. :twisted:

Yes, I'm another Girl Genius Fangrrl. I see many of you have complained about the artwork. I, however, having grown up with "Phil and Dixie" in Dragon Magazine, as well as Phil's artwork for Magic:the Gathering and other cardgames, find it fun, cartoony and perfectly suited to a dramatic comedy such as GG.

This is not Boris Valejo, folks. This is not Sprite-based, or CGI. This is a hand-drawn cartoon that he's been doing for close to a Decade (if not more), and it's vastly improved with Color, believe me. :grin:

Storywise, you can't really get much better. Missing Princess finds her true self... with complications along the way. (The complications are half the fun, as always.) Agatha is not a one-dimensional cutout, but a young woman who's been growing mentally and physically as the story has passed. Yes, she's had her "damsel in distress" moments, but the Hetrodyne Castle storyline is showing her best qualities. (even her crush on Gilgimesh).



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Yeah, she's definitely grown a lot. And it's quite amusing how GIL, the son of the tyrant, is by far the nicest person in the comic. :D

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Got as far as Chapter 12. The eyeless girl and her Polish friend are moderately interesting, but that is about the only thing that held my interest. I think by this point I can say that GC is not my cup of tea.

Fair enough. And yeah, I love Zimmy. Ch 19 is another Zimmy and Gamma Chapter. She appears starting here.

Also a PR reader. Sometimes I briefly confuse the female characters, but otherwise I like the art.



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It's much more fun to speculate on the current plot developments! Zola, Revenant or the Other herself?

Not enough data, I think. But I suspect she's going to blindside Gil, Agatha or both. Clearly they both buy into her imitation of a relatively harmless fool ( unless Gil thinks about how she ruthlessly shot a guy earlier ); but she's actually a casual killer who likes to play stupid. Agatha doesn't know Zola, and Gil is at least partly going on his impressions from the old days, when she was either less dangerous or he never saw her drop the mask. Or maybe she IS a Revenant now or something.



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