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You mean this?EnterpriseSovereign wrote:Who has the pic where Han Solo's blaster blows torso-sized chunks of material from a wall?
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IIRC, one of the Rabid Stupid Asshole's assumptions he needs for his "Sullust-to-Endor flight took days" bullshit is his claim that the big dish-like object is pointed directly at the DS2. Might need to review his page.Tribun wrote:Any more Trekkie claims this picture can demolish?
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Spock has proven again and again and again that he will make up ANYTHING, no matter how easily refuted by simple screen shots.EnterpriseSovereign wrote:Yeah, Spock was claiming the size was less than a dinner plate when referring to blaster power
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
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"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
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Yeah, that's dinner-plate sized... for Diamond Jim!EnterpriseSovereign wrote:Yeah, Spock was claiming the size was less than a dinner plate when referring to blaster power
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For those who are interested in a thread recap, it can be found at the beginning of page 200. (two hundred!! Holy Frak!!).
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I honestly can't be bothered to debate fucktards like this myself. I already have plenty of specimens for my Hate Mail page so there's nothing I need or want from these people, and the fact is that they're just worthless Internet kiddies.
So here's a challenge for the Trektards: if you can find someone among you who has a degree in science or engineering and who can confirm it by providing a scan of his degree which would naturally include his real name, alma mater, and year of graduation for verification purposes, and he actually agrees with you, then send him my way and I'd love to debate him. Until then, you kiddies are not worth my time.
If I wanted to debate people who have no idea how to think logically or argue honestly, I'd hunt down the nearest creationist. At least they're important, even if it is for no other reason than sheer popularity.
So here's a challenge for the Trektards: if you can find someone among you who has a degree in science or engineering and who can confirm it by providing a scan of his degree which would naturally include his real name, alma mater, and year of graduation for verification purposes, and he actually agrees with you, then send him my way and I'd love to debate him. Until then, you kiddies are not worth my time.
If I wanted to debate people who have no idea how to think logically or argue honestly, I'd hunt down the nearest creationist. At least they're important, even if it is for no other reason than sheer popularity.
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Since you can duck out of the way of an already fired phaser beam AT ALL it's totally irrelevant what you're ducking into and hiding behind. The beam is ludicrously slow.
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'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
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'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
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And now were on to GK's qualifications.
(He and Darkstar, beings before now to me have been creatures of myth and legend. Wow. :yawn:)
(He and Darkstar, beings before now to me have been creatures of myth and legend. Wow. :yawn:)
To you UKers out there: aren't A levels things you get in high school?HND stands for Higher National Diploma and is a qualification which people can use as entry to degree courses as an alternative to A levels.
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SirNitram: "The nation of France is a theory, not a fact. It should therefore be approached with an open mind, and critically debated and considered."
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SirNitram: "The nation of France is a theory, not a fact. It should therefore be approached with an open mind, and critically debated and considered."
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It's getting even better...Now JMSpock is on a tirade about how Graham Kennedy is better educated than most of the people here and that HND + BEd >>> BSc
I fear for this kid if he enters a university. He thinks of education in terms of real time rather than credit hours. I spent two years at Sinclair Community College and never earned an actual degree, but to him I would have the equivalent of an Associates.When I say this is equivalent to a physics education bachelor's degree in the US, I'm understating the case if anything. It's actually closer to a physics education master's in terms of time spent if his two programs are sequential rather than overlapping.
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Translated into American terms, that makes A-levels... High School Honors?EnterpriseSovereign wrote:Yeah, A-levels are 2 year courses that take place between the ages of 16-18, or years 12 and 13 of education.
Soooo... HND = High School Honors!
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wilfulton on Bible genetics: "If two screaming lunatics copulate in front of another screaming lunatic, the result will be yet another screaming lunatic. "
SirNitram: "The nation of France is a theory, not a fact. It should therefore be approached with an open mind, and critically debated and considered."
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wilfulton on Bible genetics: "If two screaming lunatics copulate in front of another screaming lunatic, the result will be yet another screaming lunatic. "
SirNitram: "The nation of France is a theory, not a fact. It should therefore be approached with an open mind, and critically debated and considered."
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I forgot to mention that here, A-levels are the culmination of high school, yes.Wyrm wrote:Translated into American terms, that makes A-levels... High School Honors?EnterpriseSovereign wrote:Yeah, A-levels are 2 year courses that take place between the ages of 16-18, or years 12 and 13 of education.
Soooo... HND = High School Honors!
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I bolded the relevant part of his idiocy. According to this imbecile, it's all about the amount of time you spent, not the actual content. By his logic, a 4 year plumber's apprenticeship is equal to a bachelor's degree in physicsMario1470 wrote:It's getting even better...Now JMSpock is on a tirade about how Graham Kennedy is better educated than most of the people here and that HND + BEd >>> BScI fear for this kid if he enters a university. He thinks of education in terms of real time rather than credit hours. I spent two years at Sinclair Community College and never earned an actual degree, but to him I would have the equivalent of an Associates.When I say this is equivalent to a physics education bachelor's degree in the US, I'm understating the case if anything. It's actually closer to a physics education master's in terms of time spent if his two programs are sequential rather than overlapping.
The harsh reality is that they can't meet the requirements, so they think they can substitute in a cheap knock-off. And it never even occurs to them to wonder why they can't find such a person. Could it be that such people generally won't agree with them? Hmmmm?
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That would require one of them to actually give up the safety of ambiguity and uncertainty that they constantly cloak their debating arguments with, and "come out into the open", as it were. Want to place a bet as to the odds of them doing that?Darth Wong wrote:I bolded the relevant part of his idiocy. According to this imbecile, it's all about the amount of time you spent, not the actual content. By his logic, a 4 year plumber's apprenticeship is equal to a bachelor's degree in physics
The harsh reality is that they can't meet the requirements, so they think they can substitute in a cheap knock-off. And it never even occurs to them to wonder why they can't find such a person. Could it be that such people generally won't agree with them? Hmmmm?
I..SSFPhoenix wrote:To sum the rabid warise side method of debate up.
Rabid Warise:"NO, NO,NO, Stop using Canon, stop using logic. I right no matter what, you stupid trekkies."
Anything we say, must be wrong, because it disproves their nice cozy fantasy.
I have no words. He's able to take all that's true of the trektard, and turn around and actually BELIEVE this..
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Spock did surprise me in showing he is familiar with a bit of calculus and differential equations.
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Thats standard behavior for Phoenix--scream, rant and rave, don't actually contribute anything to the discussion and then accuse the other side of acting like he is.Darwin wrote:I..SSFPhoenix wrote:To sum the rabid warise side method of debate up.
Rabid Warise:"NO, NO,NO, Stop using Canon, stop using logic. I right no matter what, you stupid trekkies."
Anything we say, must be wrong, because it disproves their nice cozy fantasy.
I have no words. He's able to take all that's true of the trektard, and turn around and actually BELIEVE this..
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
That makes sense. After all, they take all the inferior Trek tech and tactics, and recast them as SW weaknesses. Like when I read Portal {/gag} , it essentially showed the Federation ripping through the empire, which was, point for point, pretty much in the way the Empire would rip through the Federation.Darwin wrote:I..SSFPhoenix wrote:To sum the rabid warise side method of debate up.
Rabid Warise:"NO, NO,NO, Stop using Canon, stop using logic. I right no matter what, you stupid trekkies."
Anything we say, must be wrong, because it disproves their nice cozy fantasy.
I have no words. He's able to take all that's true of the trektard, and turn around and actually BELIEVE this..
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Just ignore him, this is standard for him and I knew that we were due for another of his temper tantrums.Darwin wrote:I..SSFPhoenix wrote:To sum the rabid warise side method of debate up.
Rabid Warise:"NO, NO,NO, Stop using Canon, stop using logic. I right no matter what, you stupid trekkies."
Anything we say, must be wrong, because it disproves their nice cozy fantasy.
I have no words. He's able to take all that's true of the trektard, and turn around and actually BELIEVE this..
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Unfortunately, 'a bit' doesn't really cut it. Anyone can pick up a bit of info here or there, but it takes hard work and time to develop true expertise to the level where you can investigate, rather than just do technical applications.Darth Servo wrote:Spock did surprise me in showing he is familiar with a bit of calculus and differential equations.
In relation to that, I took a look at Spock's description of GK's education, and he seems to be arguing that a man trained to teach junior high school physics has equal aptitude as a Physics Masters. Hasn't he every heard the expression 'If you can't do, teach'? Seriously, a degree in education does not count as training in college level physics. In fact, most of your expertise comes from the specialist 2 year degree you did previously, and anything else you pick up in the topic is just what you need to teach the grade level you're expected to teach at. After all, why would high school teachers be trained in material they will never use, or to do anything more than basic high school lab experiments? An education degree certainly doesn't result in expertise anywhere near a Physics Masters, or even a Physics B.Sc.
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What does "familiar with" mean, in this context? I'd imagine that if he had a university math degree, he'd have mentioned it. But of course, he hides behind anonymity, doesn't he? Just like the other 12 kiddies who make up that joke of a site.Darth Servo wrote:Spock did surprise me in showing he is familiar with a bit of calculus and differential equations.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
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"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
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"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/RantMode/Blurbs.html