The first thread is in regard to nuclear energy, where Tribun made the following outrageous statements:
Tribun wrote:You guys with your nuclear fetisch start to make me sick. (By now I know that anything other than your "must have nuclear"-opinion is useless here, so I won't even try.)
And I can live without any anti-atom riots like we had in the 80's and 90's, so good riddance when we are rid of that shit.
God, I hate Nuclear-Hurrahist's.
So and now that I have said my opinon, flame me if you like.
And, after he gets called on it:Tribun wrote:It would be ignored anyway, so I don't even bother with writing down my reasons (and I do have them). It's only that it is a lost cause here anyway to try and explain it, wasting my time for nothing. You could as well try to explain race equality to a bunch of Ku-Klux Klans.
He refuses to concede and instead prevaricates.Tribun wrote: I already sent this to Einhander and now I will say it open:
I should have known that this topic is too hot for me...
I admit defeat. In the future I better stay away from anything concerning nuclear power (As I did before).
To make it short: I wrote mostly emotional, and I have NOT all the facts together. I made assumptions without facts. Now that I've thought about it I therefore admit that while I still don't like nuclear power, I have said nothing useful.
Further on in the thread, I called him on it, and two days later he hasn't responded with either a real concession or any evidence. Dismissing an argument in advance, as he did in that thread, makes an utter mockery of the debating rules.
But then he does it again, In this thread while debating with Einy.
I suggest you read through it to see all the interplay between the two of them as Tribun starts up on the exact same tricks as in the earlier thread, and then note the most critical part by far, Tribun's latest post, which is in response to a post by Einy (post 23 in the thread) which provides three sources in support of his position:
Notice that his claim is irrelevant because Einy had since posted additional sources, and that, either way, instead of using this post to address either set of sources, he responds with:Tribun wrote:Einhander, what the HELL is your problem?! You react as if I had just insulted your personal beliefs, and threw profanity against me. And to make it clear: I didn't even SEE your points at 7:21, because I was writing my message at that time. So please stop turning this into some sort of personal vendetta.
I won't deny it, smoking is deadly as well, even more so since it is accepted in society (why, the devil knows) and its easy to get the stuff, and the healthcare costs are eating up a lot (thank all goodness that at least smoking has been reduced much in society in the last 50 years).
You react as if I had just insulted your personal beliefs, and threw profanity against me.
So please stop turning this into some sort of personal vendetta.
So instead of trying to address Einy's sources, he dismisses the argument with complaints about Einy's profanity.
I think there's definite cause to say that DR 7 has been violated and for the Senate to consider setting up a ban poll.