[HARM] Fahrenheit 9-11 and Bush.

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[HARM] Fahrenheit 9-11 and Bush.

Postby HARM » 2006-03-06 03:19pm

I just saw Farenheit 9-11, and it made me angry.

Also, I was reading the works of Manhatten Project, and I was thinking that he had good points, but was unprepared. How old do you think he was?
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Postby Death from the Sea » 2006-03-06 03:24pm

well of course it did, IF you took everything Moore said as gospel. But Moore is well known to twist, exaggerate and spin "facts" unitl they meet his needs.

not to say some of the things he said were not true, just not most of them.
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Postby Trytostaydead » 2006-03-06 03:24pm

This just came out of nowhere. What's the point and question again please?

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Postby HARM » 2006-03-06 03:25pm

Trytostaydead wrote:This just came out of nowhere. What's the point and question again please?


Just what you think about Farenheit 9-11. And, about Manhatten Project, since I couldn't ask about him anywhere else.
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Postby Ghost Rider » 2006-03-06 03:31pm

1. Descriptive titles are you friend...and a matter of board policy.

2. Caps Lock just piss of the admins and mods...and thus generally frowned upon.

Thus a slight title change.
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Postby Noble Ire » 2006-03-06 03:43pm

Moore rubs me the wrong way. Its not that I don't agree with many of his views (although not all; like many democratic activists, he's too virtulently anti-military for one), but his style, seen in the documentary and in most of his public speeches, is simply too pompous and steeped in the more extreme stereotypically democratic viewpoints. His penchant for twisting the truth also turns me off, as I see far to much of that already in the administration he rails against.

Still, I did like Bowling of Columbine, far more than his later work.
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Postby Darth Wong » 2006-03-06 04:17pm

Moore's particular talent as a filmmaker is to show us things that the mainstream media brushes under the carpet in its zeal to demonstrate its loyalty to king and country (and keep its red-state ratings up).

Where he tends to go wrong is when he himself is in the picture. He is pompous, overbearing, not very consistent, and prone to conspiracy-theorist mentality. His documentaries are strongest when you hear his documentary subjects speaking in their own words, and see the unusual and revealing footage that he tends to bring to the table.

In short, he needs to learn to get his face out of his own documentaries and let the camera do the talking. But for all those flaws, what he does is still worthwhile if only because the mainstream media in America is so disgustingly servile that we need someone like him.
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Postby 18-Till-I-Die » 2006-03-06 04:26pm

I dont think anyone will say Michael Moore is some great film maker. But...never the less he does, as Darth Wong said, present a viable counterpoint to the ass-kissing media machine we usually get. Weather or not his propaganda is 'fair and balanced' is another issue, but one could easily point out his films are, IMHO, vastly less rediculous than one tenth of the insanity you get from Fox News, and usually far more focused than the scattershot aim of other 24 hour news networks.

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Postby HARM » 2006-03-06 08:46pm

What about Manhatten Project. I want your opinions on him.
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Postby lance » 2006-03-06 08:52pm

Did anybody see "Out Foxed"? It has some good things on Fox news. It mentioned that Fox was made to be basicly the mouth of the Republicans, I don't know how true this is though.

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Postby HARM » 2006-03-06 08:59pm

lance wrote:Did anybody see "Out Foxed"? It has some good things on Fox news. It mentioned that Fox was made to be basicly the mouth of the Republicans, I don't know how true this is though.


Pretty true. After Bush's announcement of the L.A. terror attack plot in 2002, they featured the Century Tower's explosion in Independence Day. Don't you love truthful reporting?
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Postby Morilore » 2006-03-06 09:13pm

HARM wrote:What about Manhatten Project. I want your opinions on him.

Read the banning thread.
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Postby wolveraptor » 2006-03-06 09:13pm

lance wrote:Did anybody see "Out Foxed"? It has some good things on Fox news. It mentioned that Fox was made to be basicly the mouth of the Republicans, I don't know how true this is though.
Yes, hell yes it's true. In their regular reporting (not the editorials) they actually criticize the UN and other "liberal" institutions. Mind you, this is supposed to be their "objective" reporting. They don't even put up a facade of non-spin.

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Postby SirNitram » 2006-03-06 09:54pm

HARM wrote:What about Manhatten Project. I want your opinions on him.


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Re: Fahrenheit 9-11 and Bush.

Postby fgalkin » 2006-03-06 10:05pm

HARM wrote:I just saw Farenheit 9-11, and it made me angry.

Also, I was reading the works of Manhatten Project, and I was thinking that he had good points, but was unprepared. How old do you think he was?

I'd say he is the same age as you. He also has the same writing style, and the same IP address. A remarkable coincindence, is it not?

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Postby Joe » 2006-03-06 10:18pm

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Re: Fahrenheit 9-11 and Bush.

Postby Einhander Sn0m4n » 2006-03-06 10:25pm

fgalkin wrote:
HARM wrote:I just saw Farenheit 9-11, and it made me angry.

Also, I was reading the works of Manhatten Project, and I was thinking that he had good points, but was unprepared. How old do you think he was?

I'd say he is the same age as you. He also has the same writing style, and the same IP address. A remarkable coincindence, is it not?

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Re: Fahrenheit 9-11 and Bush.

Postby Morilore » 2006-03-07 12:16am

fgalkin wrote:
HARM wrote:I just saw Farenheit 9-11, and it made me angry.

Also, I was reading the works of Manhatten Project, and I was thinking that he had good points, but was unprepared. How old do you think he was?

I'd say he is the same age as you. He also has the same writing style, and the same IP address. A remarkable coincindence, is it not?

Have a very nice day.
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I thought so.

Also, I was reading the works of Manhatten Project, and I was thinking that he had good points, but was unprepared. How old do you think he was?


Are you looking for validation or something? Do you just have a really thin skin? You damned yourself by asking this question, you know.
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Postby Rogue 9 » 2006-03-07 09:10am

... Okay, could he have made it any more obvious?
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Postby aerius » 2006-03-07 09:17am

HARM wrote:What about Manhatten Project. I want your opinions on him.


He's just as retarded & worthless as you are. He should be run through a woodchipper and have his remains fed to livestock, and so should you.
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Postby Ghost Rider » 2006-03-07 10:38am

This serves no purpose here.

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Postby Stark » 2006-03-07 10:44am

Someone remind me. What *were* MPs 'points'? I recall him shitting a brick over a spelling mistake, refusing to back down and getting banned. It's not like he was some confronting political tornado.

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Postby LapsedPacifist » 2006-03-07 11:49am

Stark wrote:Someone remind me. What *were* MPs 'points'? I recall him shitting a brick over a spelling mistake, refusing to back down and getting banned. It's not like he was some confronting political tornado.


I think the only confrontation he launched into was starting a F22 can take out a TIE thread.

Anyone who thinks that is a "good point" or that MP was mocked and banned because he was "unprepared" is a fucking idiot.

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Postby Xon » 2006-03-07 11:58am

What a suprise that this thread got HoSed

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Re: Fahrenheit 9-11 and Bush.

Postby Fire Fly » 2006-03-07 12:07pm

fgalkin wrote:
HARM wrote:I just saw Farenheit 9-11, and it made me angry.

Also, I was reading the works of Manhatten Project, and I was thinking that he had good points, but was unprepared. How old do you think he was?

I'd say he is the same age as you. He also has the same writing style, and the same IP address. A remarkable coincindence, is it not?

Have a very nice day.
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