Shivans vs. Empire

[Sektor31]

The Shivans from Freespace go into the Star Wars universe and attempt to conquer the Empire.

Who wins?

[Stormbringer]

The Shivans from Freespace go into the Star Wars universe and attempt to conquer the Empire.

Who wins?

The Empire gives them the 200 gigaton bitch slap. The shivies don't stand a chance.

[Embracer Of Darkness]

The Shivans were almost impossible to track with Terran sensors, I doubt Empire sensors (which fucking suck) would be able to see them at all.

"They went into a high-speed power-dive, perpendicular to the long axis of the Imperial vessel; vertical drops were hard to track."
- Return Of The Jedi: Chapter Nine

Can't shoot something you can't see.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Back up your claim, please...

[Stormbringer]

The Shivans were almost impossible to track with Terran sensors, I doubt Empire sensors (which fucking suck) would be able to see them at all.

Yes, why do Imperial sensors suck? And what makes a sensor that can't track a target beyond a few klicks better?

[Embracer Of Darkness]

Just backed up my claim with a direct quote from the canon... I'll have another read and look for MORE reasons that SW sensors suck the penis and get back to you.

[Stormbringer]

Just backed up my claim with a direct quote from the canon... I'll have another read and look for MORE reasons that SW sensors suck the penis and get back to you.

And that proves your claim how?

[Embracer Of Darkness]

1.) The SD in "The Empire Strikes Back" couldn't see the Millenium Falcon LATCHED ONTO it, not only that but the others in the battlegroup couldn't see it (with clear line of site) floating in it's junk, and they weren't too far away.

2.) In "A New Hope" sensors on a SD didn't seem to notice the escape pod containing droids which escaped from inside the vessel itself.

3.) The Empire has no FTL sensors.

4.) It's 3am and my own sensors aren't working properly, if I recall more I'll let you know.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

If this is how you fucking debate, leave now and don't come back.

[Embracer Of Darkness]

Why? Because I have a point which I backed up with canon evidence from a novel and two movies?

I've backed-up my claims that the Empire wouldn't be able to track the Shivans and I think it's your turn to try proving otherwise.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

You responded with at least one fallacy and one false interpretation.

Leave, you are beyond hope.

[Embracer Of Darkness]

Please, then, enlighten me if you have evidence.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Go to the fucking website this board is attached to, moron.

[Embracer Of Darkness]

Also it appears that one of my posts, which showed valid points has been nuked... If this is how *you* debate then maybe you should return to your schoolyard.

*yawn*

[Embracer Of Darkness]

Oh no it hasn't, my bad which I take full responsibility for *duh*

[Spanky The Dolphin]

All of your posts in this thread are still here, you fucking liar.

[Stormbringer]

Oh no it hasn't, my bad which I take full responsibility for *duh*

try not to sling accusations around like that? It makes you look like an idiot.

[Embracer Of Darkness]

I just said, my bad and I take full responsibility... As I said I am very tired and when I was scrolling up I didn't see my post.

Anyway I'm still challenging you to prove that the Empire would even detect the Shivans which you still have not done, and I have personally picked-out evidence which supports me.

Until you provide sufficient evidence to *prove* otherwise I think this one is mine.

[Stormbringer]

I just said, my bad and I take full responsibility... As I said I am very tired and when I was scrolling up I didn't see my post.

Anyway I'm still challenging you to prove that the Empire would even detect the Shivans which you still have not done, and I have personally picked-out evidence which supports me.

Until you provide sufficient evidence to *prove* otherwise I think this one is mine.

When you throw out three dumbassed arguements that have been refuted dozens of times why bother? If you can't do any proper research I'm not going to even bother with your crap.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Empire does have FTL sensors.

READ THE FUCKING WEBSITE, moron.

[Embracer Of Darkness]

Was going to check "A New Hope" for the reference to having no FTL sensors I was working from but I really couldn't be arsed, I'll check tomorrow and post.

You can consider my FTL comment suspended until I look over the evidence tomorrow... Until then you have STL to deal with. (Hope it's not too much for you.)

Now, prove to me that the Empire can detect the Shivans... I'm going in like five minutes and I'm hoping you can come up with *something*.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

What part of READ THE FUCKING WEBSITE do you not understand, you stupid fuck?

[Stormbringer]

I think Embracer of Darkness should be changed to Head Jammed so far up You Ass That You Can't See the Light Of Day.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Indeed, a future VI.

[Embracer Of Darkness]

I've read the website, it said:

The Rebel base on Hoth and the Imperial fleet outside the system were able to detect and scan each other before Darth Vader was informed that the fleet had dropped out of hyperspace.

Your point? In "A New Hope" there is a referance to how much Empire FTL sensors suck, which I'll watch tomorrow and let you know (as I said). I have some evidence which equally dismisses the above which as I said I'll get back to you on.

And seeing as we're so fond of insanely large text...
Fucking prove that The Empire could track Shivan vessels.