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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by DKeith2011 » 2020-02-08 11:09am

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by Eternal_Freedom » 2020-02-08 11:18am

Good to know, but since I doubt the Yorktowns or Auroras will make an appearance in Book II, the only only other ship model I'd be interested in would be Jupiter.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."

Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by DKeith2011 » 2020-02-08 08:06pm

Just heard back from the modeler, terms are 50% up front and the rest on completion with 10-12 working days estimated.

If that is acceptable do you want to go first or shall I?

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by Eternal_Freedom » 2020-02-09 08:11am

If you can cover the first part I'll cover the second.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."

Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

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Shouldn't be a problem, I'll take a look at this next paycheck budget and see where it fits.

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by Eternal_Freedom » 2020-02-10 12:21pm

Ok guys, at the suggestion of LadyTevar, I'm opening up another thread called "Ships of the 13th Tribe" where we can talk ships, models etc. I'll be posting details/descriptions of the ships there, so we can keep this thread for story posts and discussions of the plot.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."

Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by DKeith2011 » 2020-02-10 12:41pm

Good idea!

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by Eternal_Freedom » 2020-03-01 09:12am

It's back!

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Near Installation 05, Orbit of Substance, Coelest System


The small Alliance force was once again lurking under the Keyship’s stealth field near a Halo ring and waiting for the Covenant armada to arrive. While that much was similar to a short while earlier, virtually everything else was different. Admiral Cole and Dying Light had been unable to get any response from the Monitor, 2401 Penitent Tangent and so lacked any remote sensor data from the surface, though the Monitor had clearly disobeyed at least some of Cole’s instructions.

The three Covenant fleets sent to garrison this Ring were deployed in close formation around the structure and had quite clearly not been fired upon; meaning Covenant troops were on the surface even now, most likely seeking out the Control Room for whatever purpose their commanders had given them. Long-range observations suggested that the Flood Research Facilities may already have been compromised, though even someone not familiar with the Flood or their capabilities could tell that something was badly wrong on the Ring.

Whereas Installation 04 had a surface with the full range of terrestrial environments, from forests to icy tundra to searing deserts, Installation 05 looked…sickly. Large arrears of the surface were a dull shade of brown and green as plants and other organic matter decayed.

Dying Light had been very distressed by these observations. The Monitors only functions were to maintain their Installations and contain the Flood. Penitent Tangent had clearly failed at both, and Dying Light could only speculate as to what had happened to cause his fellow AI to falter in his task. A malfunction of some sort in the Ring’s systems was possible, but unlikely. Neither the Ark nor any of the other Rings had evidence of even minor malfunctions, even after their hundred-millennium lifespan. Hostile attack was also possible but equally unlikely – the level of decay present meant that Penitent Tangent would have been incapacitated centuries ago, and Dying Light was sure the emergency systems would have alerted the Ark in that case.

The final possibility emerged from the Forerunner’s dark past. One of their constructs had turned traitor and joined the Flood, the cursed 032 Mendicant Bias had caused so much havoc and devastation. It was distinctly possible that Penitent Tangent had turned traitor as well, explaining the decay and the lack of contact; the Ring’s emergency systems could be disabled by the Monitor in extreme situations.

Speculation could wait however. They had a major problem here, the Flood were loose on the Ring – with functional Covenant starships floating within easy reach. A single Flood-infected ship escaping would be catastrophic for all life in the galaxy. The easiest way to contain the outbreak would be to destroy the Ring, but that would automatically cause all other Rings to bring themselves to a firing condition regardless of the Reclaimer’s orders.

Clearing out the infestation one Flood form at a time would be lengthy and costly in terms of lives, but Dying Light could see no other choice in the matter. He opened a comms channel with the human commanders to bring them up to speed on that situation, knowing they had been focused on the Covenant fleet movements, the main armada being just minutes away in slipspace.

The humans decided to meet in person aboard the Keyship, the Asgard beaming systems allowing them to return to their ships at a moment’s notice. The meeting convened very quickly, and Dying Light laid out the situation concisely. Cole looked decidedly troubled.

“So we need a way to eliminate this outbreak that won’t take months and thousands of lives and also won’t seriously damage the ring itself, and we might face resistance from the Monitor and the Sentinels. The main Covenant armada will be here in minutes, I can remind them of the truce and warn them of the dangers, maybe they’ll pull their ships and troops back and we can glass the surface, or saturation nuke it, whichever works best.”

Jellicoe grimaced. “I really don’t like the idea of saturation-nuking the surface. For one, it feels far too Cylon-like for my tastes, and second that many high-yield warheads could cause a lot of damage to the structure if we don’t get the burst heights exactly right.”

Cole nodded sympathetically. “I don’t like the idea of glassing the place either John, but other than calling up the Marines and every Spartan we can scrape together I don’t see any other way – and that option will have a butcher’s bill at the end.”

Baird wanted to clarify something. “What good would deploying ground troops do anyway? We can’t bring enough here to clear the Flood out one at a time, and any ordnance they could deploy can be just as easily fired from space.”

Dying Light answered that one. “You are correct Commodore, however that would not be the best use of your soldiers. If Penitent Tangent has indeed turned traitor we would need to disable them and reset their programming, something that can only be done from the AI Core. Getting the Monitor back under the Reclaimer’s orders would be a great benefit as the Sentinels would then be able to assist in clearing the hostiles from the surface.”

“Are you sure that Tangent has defected? Couldn’t it have been a malfunction or something else?” Jellicoe asked, his deep-held suspicion of AI rearing its head again.

“That is possible Admiral, however the AI Core is located one-third of a circumference from the Flood Research Facilities and a similar distance from the Control Room. That the AI Core is the centre of the decaying surface area suggests a betrayal. Penitent Tangent has joined the Flood and must be reset if possible or destroyed if necessary.”

Jellicoe shook his head in disgust. “And people wonder why I don’t like AI’s…” he muttered under his breath, just loud enough for everyone to hear but pretend they didn’t. Cole coughed slightly and changed the topic.

“So what are we looking at? A surface bombardment to clear a landing zone, deploy Marines or ODST’s to establish a firebase near the access to the AI Core, and send the Spartans in to clear a path? I’m assuming we can’t just beam ourselves in there.”

Dying Light bobbed in an approximation of a nod. “Correct Reclaimer. The AI Core is shielded to prevent any incoming or outgoing teleportation. I would need to go with these Spartans to handle the reset or deletion process, I can also spin off another copy of myself to take over the Installation until a true replacement can be created at the Ark.”

Cole nodded. “Ok then. We’ll need to get the troops here from Reach….John, your Warstar can get there fastest, feel like playing taxi?”

Jellicoe nodded, his demeanour once again professional after his earlier slip. “Certainly. I’d like to offer my Marines, but they are still recovering on Reach while I think your ODST’s and Spartans were unengaged, so they are a better choice anyway. Plus if I remember the briefing properly, your projectile weapons will be more effective than our laser rifles. We’ll hold off until the Covenant fleet arrive, just in case you need something big killed before we go.”

Cole and Baird chuckled at that, before Dying Light brought up a display screen. “The Covenant armada is emerging from slipspace now, distance 50,000 kilometres. I am detecting a great deal of communications traffic, both between those ships and long-distance signals. I have also just received a report from the sensor network that a sizeable force is approaching in slipspace, at least three hundred vessels of battlecruiser size.”

Jellicoe blinked. “That’s new. I thought we’d accounted for all the Covenant fleet elements. This must be another force kept out of range of our sensors. Maybe we’re about to see the opening battle of their civil war.”

Cole grinned. “If that’s true I should head back to Everest and make some popcorn. How long until this new force arrives?”

“One hour Reclaimer. I am also detecting traces of a massive slipspace disturbance at the limit of my sensor range, I do not know what is causing it but it appears to be moving in this direction; it will arrive in approximately one day.”

Cole frowned at that. “Oh I really hope that’s not what I think it is.”

Baird had the same idea. “High Charity? Coming here?”

Jellicoe sighed deeply and ran a hand through his hair. “Must be. I can’t think of anything else that would make that big of a sensor image. Frak, that’s all we need, a three-way punch up between two Covenant factions and the Flood.”

Cole grinned. “I don’t know John, could be a fun spectacle. Anyway, I think it’s time we went back to our ships and got in contact with the Covenant forces. Agreed?” The other two nodded quickly and Cole had them beamed back.

He arrived on his bridge to find the hologram form of Hilary waiting next to a massive holo-screen, showing the positions of the different fleet elements, including the unknown approaching forces and the massive, but distant, disturbance. He nodded at the AI in thanks for anticipating the situation and began giving orders.

“Bring the shields to full power and ready all weapons. Once we’re at General Quarters signal Dying Light to drop the stealth field and then prepare a general broadcast on Covenant frequencies. And if you have some idea of a script from that Martial Code that would be great.”

Hilary just smiled. “Of course Admiral, won’t take a moment.”

The AI was as good as his word. Within two minutes the stealth field dropped and the broadcast began.

Covenant Supercarrier Long Night of Solace

Imperial Admiral Wattinree was gratified to see that the forces at this Ring hadn’t been fired upon and had indeed managed to get troops to the surface, though the sickly appearance of a third of the surface suggested conditions were very different than the first Ring. Reports were coming in thick and fast as troops mapped out vast subterranean features and all many of Forerunner relics, most of which appeared stubbornly non-responsive.

Troublingly, there were also a number of reports of squads or even entire detachments disappearing without trace in some areas, and reports of mysterious mechanical constructs floating in the shadows. Wattinree quickly reached the decision to recall all forces; the Ring was a curiosity, it could wait until the outcome of the San’Shyuum’s betrayal.

Those were just the reports from the Ring. Supreme Commander Narvik Arakee of the Defence Fleet had sent word that the Jiralhanae had begun their purge of High Charity, that the city’s weapons had been disabled and that Ultra Torgadee had most likely died defending the Control Centre. Worse still, the holy city had entered slipspace and was heading for this Ring, far faster than the Defence Fleet could manage although they were charging at full speed in pursuit.

The civil war has truly begun he though morosely. We cannot fight the Holy City on equal terms, and the Jiralhanae fleet is still lurking in the shadows somewhere.

A shout came from the sensor section, quieting the command centre.

“New contacts! Four vessels have just appeared outside of weapons range. It is the Forerunner Dreadnought, two of the human’s new warships and the Everest. General broadcast from Everest, the human Admiral Cole wishes to speak to you Imperial Admiral, under terms of the truce already agreed.”

Admiral Wattinree mentally sighed as he wished, not for the first time, that crises could come in an orderly queue and not all at once. He had no way of knowing that he shared that thought with countless human commanders over the centuries – that knowledge would have troubled him once, but not any longer. Humans were, in his mind at least, no longer enemies.

“Very well, open a direct channel.” The comms officer turned in surprise at that, knowing the standing orders regarding routing the Imperial Admiral’s communications through at least one other ship. Wattinree caught the look and nodded. “The humans are not enemies any longer, a direct channel, at once.”

The younger officer clicked his mandibles and bent to his task. Wattinree nodded approvingly, glad that Sanghelli were still able to question when needed, and then turned to the hologram that appeared of the human Preston Cole.

“Greetings Admiral Cole. I did not expect to see you again so soon…or ever.” The tone was carefully neutral and polite, without any actual humour or affection. With a formal truce in effect, the Martial Code required neutrality in all things, even talking to former foes.

”Greetings Imperial Admiral, We have much to discuss and little time. I see you have deployed troops to the surface of the Ring; I must insist you withdraw and quarantine them immediately.”

Whatever Wattinree had expected, it certainly wasn’t that. “And why, Admiral Cole, should we do that?”

Cole smiled. ”There are two reasons. Firstly, as the Reclaimer, the Halo Array and all its components fall under my command and control. This Ring forms part of that array, and you are, albeit unknowingly, invading and occupying my territory.”

Wattinree tensed, knowing full well the penalties the Martial Code demanded from those guilty of invading another warrior’s lands, though he took some solace in Cole’s “unknowingly” statement; the Code allowed an exception for that provided the invader left as soon as it was known.

“That is indeed a grave matter. I had intended to order an immediate withdrawal anyway, our warriors have more important targets than exploring the Ring. Why quarantine them?”

Cole nodded gravely, his own tone exactly as the Code demanded. ”That is the second reason. That Ring harbours a virulent and lethal parasitic life-form known as the Flood. It is what destroyed the Forerunners themselves a hundred millennia ago. A single Flood organism escaping on an FTL-capable ship is an extremely serious threat to all life forms. Any of your ships that recover troops from the Ring should be physically isolated, with shields and slipspace drives deactivated, and kept under the guns of other ships until we can confirm the Flood did not sneak aboard.”

Wattinree was momentarily silenced by that. The idea of some sort of plague that could destroy the Gods was terrifying, but if Cole was right (and he had precious little reason to lie) than the Sanghelli fleet could not take the risk. Not with High Charity and (most likely) the Jiralhanae fleet closing in on them.

He clicked his mandibles in frustration before answering. “It will be as you suggest Admiral Cole. In exchange for your warning, I offer one of my own. I have had word that the Hierarchs have begun their purge of the dissenters and the Holy City is coming here. It will arrive in one day. I would recommend you vacate the area to avoid the cross-fire.”

Cole’s hologram sighed in resignation. ”I thought as much. We are not currently in a position to deal with the Holy City, and the possible outbreak on the Ring must be our priority. I will be bringing up reinforcements to secure the Ring and prevent any Flood escaping, unless the forces of your Hierarchs approach the Ring or fire on my forces we will not interfere.”

Wattinree could see the sense in that – they only had a tentative truce and cease-fire, not an alliance after all. His trained mind dredged up another fact though, once received in the chaotic environment just before the failed assault on Reach. It was a risk offering the information, but it may help defeat the Hierarchs and further allay the fears of the humans that the Sanghelli and their allies would not follow the truce.

“I must see to my fleet, the withdrawal from the Ring and the quarantine. But I have one final warning for you, Admiral Cole. Shortly before we attacked your world, the Hierarch Regret reported discovering a heavily-defended human world that held the Portal, an artefact of the Gods that would lead them to something called “The Ark” to begin the Great Journey. The other Hierarchs would have received this message as well as the probable coordinates. I would recommend reinforcing that world as best you are able; the Hierarchs will certainly attempt to reach it and use this Portal.”

Although Wattinree could not read Cole’s mind, the sudden tensing of the humans’ facial expression clearly showed some distress at that idea. In Cole’s head, the idea of a full-scale Covenant assault on Earth, spearheaded by High Charity itself, was enough to freeze his blood in fear.

”I will alert my fellows. In exchange for that, I will offer you another warning. We have also detected a force of at least three hundred battlecruiser-sized vessels approaching in slipspace, they will arrive in fifty minutes. I do not know if they are you forces or not, but I would prepare for contact.”

Wattinree bowed his head. It was expected, but not welcome. Not so soon, and not with so many Jiralhanae ships – half again what his officers expected. And then Cole did something unfathomable just days before. He asked Wattinree for help; for the Sanghelli ships near the Ring to be ready to provide a plasma bombardment on the surface. Leaving aside the differences between human and Sanghelli, one warrior asking another to fire on his territory was absolutely unprecedented.

We are sailing in uncharted territory now Wattinree thought, before granting the request. It would keep the quarantined ships separate from the main fleet, and give plenty of time to destroy them if they tried to escape.

With their business concluded, the channel closed, and Wattinree called instead for an all-ships broadcast to his own forces. His orders were succinct, and would have been world-shattering had not his men become used to stunning revelations in the past day.

“All ground forces are to withdraw from the Ring immediately; the ships they board will remain in proximity to the Ring and be prepared to initiate saturation plasma bombardment of the surface on my order. Any ships that recover ground troops are to shut down their slipspace drives until further notice and will be fired upon and destroyed if they attempt to leave the vicinity of the Ring. All other fleet elements are to deploy in formation around the flagships, the Jiralhanae fleet of three hundred battlecruisers is approaching and will arrive in forty-five minutes. All ships will prepare for combat against the Jiralhanae.”

With that order, the Great Schism had definitively begun. Even as Wattinree contemplated the carnage to come, one of the new human warships vanished from the sensor display in a flash of light. The Warstar Jupiter had left for Reach, having finally encountered a hostile situation that she couldn’t solve with her guns alone. It was time to call up the Spartans.

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So we're back, and Imperial Admiral Wattinree is proving to be a very interesting character to work with. At present, he's operating under formal neutrality, but he knows full well that the humans are unlikely to trust him to keep it for long. So, he offers a few tidbits here and there - but only ones that would ultimately benefit him, he's not altruistic by any stretch of the imagination. Case in point, telling COle that the Hierarchs know where Earth is will make the humans reinforce Earth as much as possible, perhaps even enough to destroy High Charity - or at least so weaken both sides that the Sanghelli can finish their civil war and the humans won't be able to intervene.

Anyways. Coming up soon, the Spartans and ODST's deploy to Installation 05 to reset Penitent Tangent, the Jiralhanae show up and engage the Sanghelli, and Truth and Mercy continue being total bastards.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."

Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by DKeith2011 » 2020-03-01 11:33am

Excellent chapter.

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by InsaneTD » 2020-03-01 10:21pm

That's going to be one hell of a fleet brawl.

Awesome chapter EF. I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by Eternal_Freedom » 2020-03-02 12:29pm

Yeah it's gonna be messy, but High Charity may not stay around too long.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."

Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.

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Post by LadyTevar » 2020-03-02 10:02pm

Great chapter. I can't wait to see how you run with this.
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Post by DKeith2011 » 2020-03-02 10:12pm

Is there a 'boom' involved in that 'may not stay around too long.'

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Post by InsaneTD » 2020-03-02 10:51pm

Well the UNSC still have a big bomb left that they were saying for High Charity from memory. Though I'm kinda hoping the good guys will activate the key ship at high charities heart.

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Post by fnord » 2020-03-03 12:35am

Well, there's that NOVA bomb (maybe sarcastically named Tact, since Subtlety was expended already on part of the Covenant fleet), the spinal bang bangs of at least the Warstars, Phoenix, Dreadnought, and, knowing E_F, probably a supercarrier's suicide run into High Charity.
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Post by DKeith2011 » 2020-03-03 01:13am

Those names make me think of The Cultures creative naming conventions. The ones borrowed by Elon Musk for the 2 booster landing barges.

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Post by fnord » 2020-03-03 11:40am

So not the Noun Of Pretentious Adjective , a la the psycho drop bears of Schlock Mercenary infamy?

As it was probably obvious, I was taking the piss while trying to get the litotes pitched about right.

Maybe Discretion for the third device that (iirc) was being kept back as a deterrent - tact, subtlety and discretion being three things not normally associated with tactical WMD (since a NOVA device can't, iirc, permanently alter stellar characteristics).

Yes, the Terran Navy Special Branch (motto: "Don't make us come over there") would argue the point.
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Post by Eternal_Freedom » 2020-03-03 04:17pm

The NOVA bombs don't have names. They had four, used one, deployed a second on Installation 04 as a last-resort, and Cole's small task force has another one handy, with the fourth being back at Reach.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."

Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.

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Post by fnord » 2020-03-06 08:56pm

Spoilsport.
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Post by Natzo » 2020-03-10 03:58pm

Oh, there is something I've been wondering and I'm not sure if I missed it. SG/BSG tech requires Tylium, Trinium, Naquada, and Neutronium. Are these available in the Halo universe for the upgrades? I think railguns/coilguns of the SGC are only possible due to tritium, for example. Naquadah and Neutrinum are needed for power generators.

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Post by Eternal_Freedom » 2020-03-10 05:24pm

That's a point I've seen crop up in a few fanfics, my take on it is this:

Tylium is a less-refined version of Naquada by another name. Now while Naquadria was shown in SG canon to be an artificial material made by a Goa'uld experiment, Naquada, Trinium and Neutronium were naturally-occurring...I hate to use the term "element" but it's a close fit - Atlantis made mention of the Asuran planet being rich in neutronium, which is why the Lanteans used it for their experiment.

Given that there are no fundamental physical differences between the SG/BSG universe and the Halo universe (same physical constants, largely the same materials etc) I am working on the assumption that Trinium, Neutronium and Naquada do exist int he Halo-verse, but the UNSC never used them because they either never found them or never knew to look for them, so the material is there but not readily available because they never surveyed for it and they'd have to mine from scratch - and the UNSC/Alliance forces have slightly more pressing concerns. Though with the facilities on the Forgeship Nidavellir that can change one element into another with moderate effort setting up permenent resource operations is a much longer-term issue.

It'd be like going back to, oh, 1750 or so and asking if they know where the nearest oil field is so you can start drilling.

Alternately, given that the Forerunner's built biiiiig structures made of some fancy super-metal, it's possible that the local sources of Trinium, Neutronium etc were depleted long ago - in which case the remains of the Shield World destroyed by the UNSC Spirit of Fire in Halo Wars will be salvaged.

Or it's a combination of those things. Either is reasonable in my view.

As an additional note: I'm working on the next few chapters which will involve the Spartans. I've decided to throw out the details of the Spartan-III's seen in Halo: Reach (which I have now played and I found it wanting) in favour of the Spartan-III's seen in the books, where all but a handful are already dead on high-value suicide missions that Lord Hood already mentioned. May also have a few prototype tools for John et al to play with courtesy of Alliance technology.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."

Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by Natzo » 2020-03-10 09:16pm

Makes sense. Maybe the Ancient Humans used all the resources in their territory and the Forerunners in their constructs. Maybe there are human stockpiles somewhere. I suppose in this timeline they have yet to find Ancient Human Ship and ruins? Like https://www.halopedia.org/Site_Yankee-002-G3 or the inspiration for the Hellcat armors. If they find ancient human worlds, maybe there are vaults there. I'm surprised they didn't hide anything like in the Red Spot of Jupiter.

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Re: The 13th Tribe Book II: A Symphony of War

Post by Eternal_Freedom » 2020-03-11 01:27pm

Interesting points. I think I'm going to work on the assumption that ancient human stuff is hidden here and there but the UNSC hasn't had the ability to find it yet - and while the Alliance/Dying Light do have the ability, again, they have more pressing concerns.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."

Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.

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