He Who Fights Monsters (Star Trek)

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Re: He Who Fights Monsters (Star Trek)

Post by U.P. Cinnabar » 2018-05-03 10:43am

TAS isn't canon?

Probably, they were too fragile to be used for EVA/hostile environment work, and went back to using spacesuits, or knowing Treknology, spacesuits with forcefield backup.
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Re: He Who Fights Monsters (Star Trek)

Post by Tribble » 2018-05-03 10:48am

U.P. Cinnabar wrote:
2018-05-03 10:43am
TAS isn't canon?

Probably, they were too fragile to be used for EVA/hostile environment work, and went back to using spacesuits, or knowing Treknology, spacesuits with forcefield backup.
Yes I know TAS isn't canon, I'm just surprised they didn't use the idea as it could have been a practical solution which also happens to look sciene-fictioney.

Federation space suits don't seem to have force fields as they continue to leak after being punctured.
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Re: He Who Fights Monsters (Star Trek)

Post by U.P. Cinnabar » 2018-05-03 12:07pm

True. Forgot about STFC.
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Re: He Who Fights Monsters (Star Trek)

Post by Burak Gazan » 2018-05-03 12:14pm

FaxModem1 wrote:
2018-05-03 04:15am
Burak Gazan wrote:
2018-05-02 08:32pm
Funny how The Expanse manages with way less money, and the story never suffers. In fact, it ENHANCES AND REQUIRES IT in some bits
But, hey, Tweknology....
And I'm sure 20 years in special effects advancement making special effects cheaper has nothing to do with it, nosiree Bob.
Sure it did; but they can do it cheaper in the bigshot studios now too, but that doesn't help them break from drowning in bullshit and lens flare replacing writing
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Re: He Who Fights Monsters (Star Trek)

Post by Swindle1984 » 2018-05-03 09:38pm

Tribble wrote:
2018-05-03 12:24am
IIRC in the TNG tech manual the bridge was on top of the hull and detachable so that it could be easily swapped out during an upgrade.

Also the main bridge of the E-D wasn't supposed to be used during battle situations as it was intended that they saucer-separate first, but that didn't happen very often (outside universe this was largely due to the timing of scenes and budget contraints).
Correct on both counts. That modularity is mentioned in-story as a reason why the early production Galaxy-class starships were chosen for the Project Galaxy upgrade, rather than the newer Dominion War-era Galaxy-class starships.

In universe, I think the reason they didn't separate the saucer in battle very often is because the saucer that's full of civilians doesn't have a warp drive and thus cannot flee while the drive section is engaged in battle, and the ship actually has more power for weapons/shields when it's not split in half.
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