Supernatural Taisen (Megacrossover) (Update!)

[SAMAS]

The point was; do you deal with bad guys that aren't part of the series involved or do you deal with the guys that are part of the series invovled?

Yes.

[Kamikage]

Sorry, I forgot to put in the first.

[SAMAS]

It all depends on the game.

In W, for example, you start out fighting Space Pirates, A faction in SEED(Astray), but who use units from SEED, Detonator Orgun, Wing, and Nadesico. The first Database unit you run into doesn't appear until you fight Pasdar, about halfway through the first arc, and you don't fight them until the end of the arc.

In Alpha, on the other hand, Aerogaters show up right off the bat.

[Kamikage]

First, I know a similar thing happens in OG1. Second; I kinda meant by who do you finishing off first: the original villains or the non-original villains? Lastly, I'm aorry if I'm being a pest it's just that I had somewhat originally meant that it seams to me that the main reason that a good deal of the non-original threats are just there so your pilots and machines can get ready for the real threats (gameplay-wise).

[SAMAS]

No. The series threats are just as big as the Original ones.

[Kamikage]

Not in scope so much as what experience your team has up to that point (plus if I've interpereted TvTropes' SRW:Alpha page correctly then your group knows about the Balmarians' existance in Alpha 1 and a good deal of the time spent up to the final showdown in each game could be viewed as a "take care of "lesser" threats first then deal with bad guy"). Plus I also meant it in the Final Fantasy sense of the word. (in VI -current you spend a good part of the early game thinking that the final boss would be the dude in charge, then it turns out to be some other psychopath.)

[Kamikage]

Also, to the author are we going to see both routes or do we have to wait till yo write a New Game +?

[xie323]

No. The series threats are just as big as the Original ones.

Yes, the original villains are in there for a reason right?

First, I know a similar thing happens in OG1. Second; I kinda meant by who do you finishing off first: the original villains or the non-original villains? Lastly, I'm aorry if I'm being a pest it's just that I had somewhat originally meant that it seams to me that the main reason that a good deal of the non-original threats are just there so your pilots and machines can get ready for the real threats (gameplay-wise).

You finish off the non-original villains first. For example in Alpha and Alpha Gaiden you din't focus on the big bad for most of the time. In Alpha 1 not all unified routes with thr Aerogaters in it revolve around dealing with the Aerogaters fully but rather the antagionst groups from non-original series that ally with them--in this case the Campbellians, the Bozanians, the Zanscare Empire and Paptimus Scirocco.

In the alpha series the STMC are an unifying threat that all the groups hate. But they aren't the main antagionst.

There also tends to be in some games TWO teams of antagionsts and the player has to deal with the group that is against the Big Bads themselves before dealing with the groups that side with the big bad and then the big bad himself.

It all depends on the game.

In W, for example, you start out fighting Space Pirates, A faction in SEED(Astray), but who use units from SEED, Detonator Orgun, Wing, and Nadesico. The first Database unit you run into doesn't appear until you fight Pasdar, about halfway through the first arc, and you don't fight them until the end of the arc.

In Alpha, on the other hand, Aerogaters show up right off the bat.

Not really, while it is pretty clear that the Aerogaters are the main villains the moment they appear. You don`t start with fighting them. For Super Robot players you start fighting against Dr. Hell and for Real Robot players you start fighting against the Titans. You get to fighting them in stage 8 or 9.

Not in scope so much as what experience your team has up to that point (plus if I've interpereted TvTropes' SRW:Alpha page correctly then your group knows about the Balmarians' existance in Alpha 1 and a good deal of the time spent up to the final showdown in each game could be viewed as a "take care of "lesser" threats first then deal with bad guy"). Plus I also meant it in the Final Fantasy sense of the word. (in VI -current you spend a good part of the early game thinking that the final boss would be the dude in charge, then it turns out to be some other psychopath.)

Lesser threats? Not really they were helping the bad guy get his goals done and they needed to be stopped so their plans won`t be successful.


P.S: Kamikage, stop doubleposting.

[Majin Gojira]

“So, who did you bump into?” Harry asked as they made their way to their assigned table.

“Her,” Murphy said as they approached their seats. She and Harry were placed next to Jack and Reika on one side, and woman he had not seen before.

She sat at the table, leaning back in her chair with an assured grin on her face. She had an athletic build and vivid red hair, swapped in a diaphanous, but still slinky, emerald dress.

“So,” She said, “Are you really a wizard named Harry?”

Dresden was tired and had been through a lot in a very short period of time, so his response was less than diplomatic: he just grumbled under his breath.

That was when he noted her chair. It was made of a metallic substance that clashed heavily with the room.

“Harry,” Murphy said, “This is--”

“I go by many names,” The woman in green interrupted, standing up to her full height. Though she was shorter than Harry—she still stood an impressive 6ft, “I have been called: Tifa Lockheart, Lina the Pink, The Fifth Fire Shadow—and just yesterday, someone called me Susan. That was kinda weird. But, for today, I’m just Eiko.”

She extended a hand to Harry, who took it. He shook it, but notices that her hand barely closed around his, he guided the vigorousness of the shake—which was pretty limp with his condition.

“I’d say more, but the movie’s gonna start soon,” Eiko said.

“Movie?” Harry asked as he plopped down, with Murphy between him and Eiko. On the other side of him sat Jack—acting as a thankful buffer to him and Reika. Beyond Reika were others—a Blonde woman in silver, a nerd with a mild military build and a large, bald black man with a golden symbol on his forehead. Harry thought it was a tattoo until he sat down and saw it was three dimensional.

Murphy turned to explain what she meant when the lights dimmed, leaving only a single bright spotlight, which grabbed everyone’s attention.

At its center was the President of the United States, David Xanatos. He still maintained a youthful appearance, but stood with pure confidence.

Harry guessed it was the beard.

Flanking him from behind were two secret service agents. One was a blonde Amazon whose hair was tied back in a knob; the other was a dark haired man with broad shoulders and an athletic, military build. They both appeared quite young—maybe late twenties like Eiko—and the woman had on large metal bracers over her forearms.

Next to the President stood a woman in a military uniform Harry had never seen before. It was similar to a blue naval uniform, but the arrangement of various icons on it was off—way off.

The fact that the woman in question had light blue hair and a strange third eye tattoo in the center of her forehead raised further alarm bells.

“Ladies and Gentlemen,” Xanatos calmly began, “I have called you all here today to discuss grave matters. I’m sure it has not escaped your attention, but the previous century has been fraught with strife, conflict and near apocalypse, only getting worse as the millennium encroached.”

Harry could think of 3 events offhand that nearly brought about an apocalyptic upheaval in the nature of the world that he had been personally involved in within his lifetime alone. He was pretty sure that was far to frequent to be normal for a long time.

It’s nice to have someone agree with you.

“Thanks to contact with the Time Space Administration Bureau and other organizations already within the Earth’s government perveau, we have come to a grim conclusion that earth is entering what the TSAB refers to as..."

{{Mission 10}}
{{Dark History}}

The room filled with screens that floated in mid air—each one displaying an image of destruction, death and horror. Some were medieval battles in the darkest depths of the Fairy-realms or “Nevernever”, others were battles beyond the furthest stars, still others featured rampages of monsters and demons unopposed.

Harry recognized a few of the monsters. Godzilla. King Ghidorah. Rodan. Some of the clips, he realized, were film from earth. Recent news broadcast no less. One of them was of Godzilla’s battle against Ghidorah in New York. Others were clips of just the monsters on their own—Ghidorah leveling Paris, Godzilla attacking on Tokyo, Varan marauding across the gulf of Mexico.

But those were only the monsters Harry could identify, in places Harry knew. There were hundreds more Harry had never seen before in places ranging from the ancient to the alien. The monsters themselves ranged from gigantic insects to things Harry wished he never saw, and one really ugly mother--

“A period in time when high technology, magic and primordial forces reach a level of activity that threatens all sapient life forms at one or more points in their history. Hundreds of species never make it past this barrier—obliterating themselves before they took their first strong steps beyond their home sphere, or being obliterated by energies they could not control or foes they could not overcome.”

Harry looked on at the images and saw Armies of summer fairy soldiers together with humans in medieval armament running into a massive battle against twisting creatures resembling hobs, but larger, armed and armored with what looked like materials made of wrought iron.

But that was impossible—iron burned fairies—winter or summer.

Behind them stood nearly a dozen or so fiery demonic beings seemingly made of semi-solid magma and built like classic devils—some 20ft in height. Armed with flaming whips, they lead their lesser beings into battle and cut a bloody swatch through the coalition.

“I’m sad to say, but earth has already failed the test once before. Our species survived, but it took us over twenty thousand years to even approach the level of technology needed for such a confluence to occur again.”

The image of a flying machine reminiscent of a police issue robot or Patlabor blasted at swarms of Gyaos over an ocean turned red with blood passed by Harry’s table. As they tore at it, it fell apart like broken pottery.

Eiko pointed and quietly said “It’s a Gundam!” and added a choked off cry from the pit of her stomach.

Harry gave her a look, initially of disgust, but he realized she was joking to hide her fear.

Harry wished he could muster up a snide remark at that moment. But seeing people torn apart by Gyaos, crushed under giant machines, liquefied by sound waves…

It made him glad he didn’t eat beforehand.

The next image even more so—it was a mass of red tentacles and ropey organisms coalesced over several buildings, forming a cyclopean figure reminiscent of a pagan idol. Its face contained a single mask-like eye with two large fins on either side of its head. From its base, several other horrors budded off from the individual ropes which lost cohesion as the creature’s mass traveled from its top to its base. They resembled half-formed torsos, living cloaks, jellyfish and hydras, Humanoid figures with too many faces for its head—so some appear in random places on its torso and masses of tentacles that congeal into a singular mouth. All of these creatures shifted in coloration from a sickly red to a lifeless gray.

Harry wondered if this was a Walker of some sort. Though with the hook-like scythes that were attached to many of the creature’s sides, it probably had a moniker like “He Who Reaps Life” or perhaps “Those Which Reap Life” as it did seem to be continually budding off new forms of itself.

“Our current Dark History has been actively running for over thirty years now, with inklings of its occurrence going back to the First World War. It could go on for another hundred years at this pace—or we could all die tomorrow. Dark History’s don’t end until we move beyond what divides us for the sake of all sapient life on the planet.”

The image of several spaceships with odd pyramidal designs raining gold energy bolts down on a planet’s surface, leveling all structures on the surface, passed Harry by.

“I’m rather certain that none of us here want to see this history repeat itself. So I am asking you for your cooperation in the long term. Some of you are nervous, afraid that we will turn your organizations into supernatural lapdogs of the government. To be blunt, we have those already. What we—the United Nations, The Time Space Administration Bureau and myself—want is cooperation and friendship for the survival of sentient life on the planet. The more of us that work together on this—the greater our chance of survival.”

“So how do we fight this thing?” A voice called out, Harry turned to see the Hellboy as its source, scowling at the images as they passed him by.

“For that, I’ll turn this over to Captain Lindy Harlaown of the Time Space Administration Bureau: one of Earths many allies in space.” Xanatos said, and motioned for the woman with the third eye tattoo to take the podium. The images of war and horror disappeared.

“Fellow Sentients,” She smiled as she spoke, “I am Captain Lindy Harlaown of the Time Space Administration Bureau…I believe that it is somewhat analogous to the Federation on Star Trek. Though, we are a society of mages as well as space travelers.”

A low murmur went through the crowd. Harry had figured right, but still did not want to believe what he was hearing.

“We are an alliance of worlds which have all greatly suffered through various Black Histories. My own home world, Mid-Childa, went through two such incidents leaving many artifacts of those wars behind.”

New images filled the screen. These were simple three dimensional images of items or snapshots of locations.

Most of the items were books of one sort or another. However, a few were quite different — medieval weapons, stone tablets, even an odd shaped revolver appeared in the lineup.

“We’ve come to call these highly destructive and dangerous artifacts Lost Logia. Our original mission on this planet was to secure a Lost Logia from our planet which made its way here. Earth was already well known to us as a planet with an extremely large number of unaccounted for lost logia.

“It is standard First Contact procedure within the TSAB to aid a planet in the location and containment Lost Logia and related locations. Many of you have done so already and for that we are greatful. Still, there are many that, if they fall into the wrong hands or are left on their own, will ensure that this Dark History will repeat itself once again.”

The images changed again, showing what Harry assumed were members of the TSAB in action on various planets. Mages in flight, battling machines, fallen mages and monsters alike.

“The final phase of this project is to eventually bring earth up to the technology standard of the Bureau. We will be sharing standard humanitarian aid where applicable. Earth is a good deal away from our dimensional hub, so I cannot promise much immediate action beyond my own ships’ capabilities. Still, by the slow, monitored introduction of our Magical systems to earth, we can eventually bring humanity out of the chthonic masquerade the planet has around it—but the shortest time frame for that is still a hundred years off, so there’s little need to worry.”

The lights went back up as Lindy continued, “Of course, there are a lot more details in the actual treaty documentation—but we’ll address any questions or concerns you have as an initial reaction to the proposal.”

From across the room, the first to stand was a member of the Catholic Church, Enrico Maxwell. He was a slim with his gray hair tied back in a pony tail, but still looked rather young.

“This is a joke,” He stood rigidly, lowering a condescending eye at Lindy, “Surely, this is a joke. You expect us to believe that aliens want us all to cooperate? How absurd. I expect you have Antennae hidden inside your hair too.”

“Most humanoid life forms in the galaxy descend from the ancient Mu, so we do tend to look ‘Human.’” Lindy answered calmly, “As for being an alien, we can take select groups on tour of either my ship, or the two inter-stellar cruisers earth has already built.”

A murmur went through the hall as that bombshell was dropped as casually as a pebble. Harry himself nearly did a double take. If aliens were indeed real and looked like humans, it should not be that surprising to find at least one or more Ancient Astronaut theories turning out to be true too.

“I’m sure that will be most informative,” Maxwell nodded his head slightly, “But you cannot expect organizations who have centuries of animosity to work together easily?”

“Of course not,” Lindy smiled, “I expect the process to be a long, drawn out one. However, we feel the threat is certainly worth a little paperwork, don’t you agree?”

Enrico Maxwell scowled as he sat down.

A small blonde woman stood up to speak, her seating name read as ‘Buffy Summers.’ Harry expected her to be taller for all the crap she pulled.

“I don’t have quite the objections that Father Gray Ponytail, though I’ll be trying to get on that spaceship tour later on.” Buffy paused to get a look at Father Maxwell, who scowled back at her, “And I really hope you’re not eating hamsters while our backs are turned. My main concern is with the women under my care. I’m sure a lot of people here who are not too eager to become tools of any government. We don’t want to be drawn into something like the 39th Central Asiatic Conflict.”

“Until the masquerade is broken,” Xanatos answered, “magical and mundane affairs will be kept separated in terms of resource allocation.”

“And afterwards?” Buffy’s face darkened slightly.

“Magic will be a part of everyday society,” Lindy answered, “Given the—Slayer, right?”

Buffy nodded as an answer.

“Given a Slayers known predispositions towards violence and their power,” Lindy answered, “Simple registration and training in how to responsibly use their abilities. I believe you are attempting to do something similar, correct?”

Buffy looked as though she had a rebuttal at the tip of her tongue, but it died as she answered Lindy: “Uh, yeah.”

“We would work out the details of such registration and training as we worked out the treaties—but I believe it would be something analogous to a drivers license here on earth,” Lindy smiled.

Buffy sat down, mumbling something Harry could not pick up.

“Any other immediate concerns?” Lindy asked.

“What about those of us who want the Dark History to continue?” A new voice with a slight German accent filled the room, and the lights flickered.

Two figures appeared in the center of the room. One was a short, round man, in a white suit with glasses, his blond hair neatly combed so that only half of his bangs dangled over his forehead. The other was far larger, both in terms of height and musculature, with long dark hair and holding a long, curved blade sheathed over his shoulders. Guns and staves from the agents and Secret Service pointed at the new arrivals, and several of the guests stood up, ready for battle at their entrance.

“Hold on,” Xanatos interrupted, “It’s a hologram.”

They lowered their weapons slightly, but remained on edge.

“I have a different proposal for you,” The shorter of the two continued, “It is far simpler and more satisfying than paperwork and treaties could ever be.”

He clenched his fist in a tight ball in front of him and said only one word: “War.”

After letting that sit in the air for a moment, “War without end, a war to engulf this planet, this galaxy and beyond—to the very gates of Valhalla! War as pleasure, War as pain, War as a catalyst to bring about the best and the worst in mankind.”

The Major turned grin continued to grow as he spoke, “A merciless, bloody war. A war built on iron, lightning and fire. A war whose very existence is needed for mankind to survive in any way, shape or form. A Massive war—a War of Worlds! A war beyond any that man’s history has ever known!

“Stand and fight us—the Last Battalion—or lie down and die as we press our jackboots into your throats. Or, if you choose to stand and watch, we will do so to those you hold most dear. Maybe that will get the urge for war to burn in you, as it does me. Precious people. Family, friends…”

The Speech-making madman mouthed two words towards Harry’s table. Harry wasn’t the best at lip reading, but he could barely make out the words—and they weren’t English.

These two words elicited a gasp from the God Machine and caused her to pale significantly.

Harry believed the words to be a name—but not from a language he was familiar with—and that wasn’t very many. Cam-E-Nah Eye-Yacht-Oh? He had no idea as to its significance—but they caused the God Machine to quake in fear.

Their images flickered into nothing before the ground shook and a white light filled the room. Harry braced himself for the shockwave.

[Vehrec]

Stupid razing frazzing cliffhangers...

[Kamikage]

Lovely chapter and a usic choice that I can only descirbe as Deliciously Haunting or Scrumptiously Haunting. Also, I find myself believing that Malign Hyper-Cognitive Disorder is somewhat related to the Dark History. Question 1: what's the name of the think that Harry called Those Who Reap Life really and where is he from (I think it's an Invader from Getter Robo: Armeggedon but I only know about them from assorted Youtube vids)? And question 2: Was that really a Gunda fight Gyaos? And as a final word I will attempt to stop dobleposting.

[Majin Gojira]

Answer 1: Spoiler

The D-Reaper

Answer 2: Spoiler

A Gundam-Like Dolem, really.

[Kamikage]

That makes a lot of sense now that you say it. I just didn;t consider it due to the lack of non-giant robot content. Also, I think an interesting side-story would be what happened during the Earth;s previous dark history. Also, I was going through your Heroes of the Millenium thread and I was wondereing: are you going to have a fic featuring what happened during the Crisis, also are you going to have the Heartless appear (I can just imagine everyone's reaction to Sora and the Keyblade). P.S. What is the name of our group of uber-badassness?

[Majin Gojira]

Answers 1:

Maybe from past events within the last 100 years of Proto-Dark History. But not until the main story is completed will any Gaiden chapters be even discussed.

Answer 2:
Spoiler

Not immediately.

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Answer 3:

The group has yet to really form in a true united function. For the past 10 missions, it has been UN over-sighted cooperation between various groups.

But a name should pop up...soon.

Feel free to make suggestions, cuz I don't like the names I've got in my head.

Hell, I haven't been able to decide on which JAM Project song to use. It's not really a proper homage to SRW without Jam Project, con sarnit!

[Kamikage]

I can't really help you there except for calling them the Supernatural Numbers or the Extranormal Situations Taskforce (maybe Dark Warriors), but for the JAM Project song I would suggest GONG or maybe Brother in Faith. Also, I have blasphemed against Harry Drsden by merely calling him the John McClane of wizardry. I chould have called him the John McClane and Macguyver fusion of Wizardry.

[HolyDragoon]

If I may suggest a song, I'd say "Asu he no Houkou" or whatever that song is called. Never saw the anime, but checked the lyrics and they seem to get along with the story.

[Kamikage]

When/if SEELE shows up can you have a scene (packed with High Octane Nightmare Fuel Unleaded) with Alucard eliminating a meber of SEELE (02-12) to the tune of the Godsmack song Vampires (with Integra/Sereas speaking the words). It can't be Kihl because I have a plan for him. Plans involving G-Stone powered chainglaves.

[SAMAS]

I don't think we'll have to worry about that. If Eva had been involved, we'd have had Second Impact already.

[Kamikage]

Shame though, I just that it would be really cool if that happened. A person of mass destruction can dream. Still I just think that we need something to happen that will show off how deadly Alucard is while scaring the crap out of everyone watching, espeacially the Buffy crew (I got the feeling from Alliances that they honestly thought they could take him down, and yet not really viewing him as the threat that he really is). Also, if you have Hellsing in the mix you have to have High Octane Nightmare Fuel Unleaded. Also, Second Impact in this case could have been the end of the previous Dark History. And finally, it could still happen just to someone else who deserves it. (Not me though, I have Anti-Vampire and Anti-Alucard spray in my possesion).

[HolyDragoon]

I guess that would qualify better as the First Impact. And the very nature of crossover implies some raping of canon, so if Evas entered the story they would try to avoid the Second Impact. Still, I can't help but see Angels here as a bit of overkill. I'd risk guessing only RahXephon would be able to face the Angels without someone else nullifying the AT Field.

[Kamikage]

Stop it, your forcing me to consider logic. Though you do have a point I just want a mecha show that I have seen in this, is that too much to ask? (I haven't really seen much outside of the few that I've seen on TV and the stuff I've been able to hunt down online) Also, a good skill to have for the Jack/RaXephon (the Jackephon?) fusion should involve some of the weapons and devices he's used over the course of his life (for example a weaponized Stargate or an attack that works on the same principle) just to really give the feeling that Jack has merged with the RahXephon instead of just the RahXephon physically mering with him. (Anubis, Ba'al and the Ori are doomed, horribly, utterly DOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!1!111!!!!!!!!!)

[HolyDragoon]

Well, my knowledge about mechas only gets Evangelion and the SRW: Original Generation universe, with the other mecha ringing bells in my head, but I still miss most of the stuff behind them, so you're pretty much in the same place as me.
Still, the end of the world could be caused by Lilith/Gendo with some freaky mutations, so i guess having Evangelion would get us the perfect final boss.

[SAMAS]

If your mecha knowledge is that limited, I would suggest gaining some more when you get the chance. At the very least, you should find a Mazinger series and check it out. Mazinkaiser is out on DVD, and you can find Shin Mazinger for download.

And most rules tend to get relaxed in an SRW game. In Alpha, Alberto the Shockwave from Giant Robo was able to fight an Angel to a standstill. without a mecha.

[Kamikage]

I've been trying to watch Shin Mazinger but all of the videos that I've found aren't playig for some reason. (update: have come to coculsion that site was under maintenance). Also I now have the picture of Alucard and Harry Dresden going to town on an Angel [though I know who the perfect Bonus Boss is for this. it is (no offense) THE AUTHOR OF THE FIC ITSELF (depending on if the "Majin" is as in Majin Buu or Majinger)].

[HolyDragoon]

If your mecha knowledge is that limited, I would suggest gaining some more when you get the chance. At the very least, you should find a Mazinger series and check it out. Mazinkaiser is out on DVD, and you can find Shin Mazinger for download.

And most rules tend to get relaxed in an SRW game. In Alpha, Alberto the Shockwave from Giant Robo was able to fight an Angel to a standstill. without a mecha.

Yeah, but Bright Noah needed someone to disable the AT Field first. Still, thinking about it again, the Mazingers and the Getter... since Alpha 3 showed us that hotblood averted Tangification... yeah, Nekketsu engine could be able to pierce AT Fields. The trope wins again.