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Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Four Up

Posted: 2010-05-01 06:26pm
by Ritterin Sophia
Darth Ruinus wrote:Image
Is that supposed to be Abigor? I'd always imagined him and the other Archdukes as having much broader shoulders and pronounced chest. Sorta like this.

Still, it's awesome and it certainly fits what I think the average demon soldier would look.

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Posted: 2010-05-01 11:46pm
by Nematocyst
I wonder how will all the Christians go when they learn we killed Jesus (again)
General Schatten wrote:Is that supposed to be Abigor? I'd always imagined him and the other Archdukes as having much broader shoulders and pronounced chest. Sorta like this.

Still, it's awesome and it certainly fits what I think the average demon soldier would look.
That's a bit too cartoony, IMO. But I agree: that's how the normal infantry demon would look like.
About the other Archdukes, I wonder if they looked like their usual depictions. For example, Beelzebub is a big insect, Dagon is a merman, etc.

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Posted: 2010-05-02 02:07am
by Darth Ruinus
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I did this one today and I'm planning on doing one of that tank that kills the first angel in a bit. Thanks for the comments.

(Though I don't feel quite right cluttering up this thread with pictures. Though I guess it's ok since there is going to be a cleaned up version later on?)

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Four Up

Posted: 2010-05-02 06:11am
by Darth Yan
Not till book 3 at the very least. still, the endgames a foot

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Posted: 2010-05-02 10:50am
by RowanE
Nematocyst wrote: About the other Archdukes, I wonder if they looked like their usual depictions. For example, Beelzebub is a big insect, Dagon is a merman, etc.
Well, they're supposed to be gengineered/selectively bred humans, so i don't think Beelzebub would be an insect. As for Dagon, he's seen walking around in Dis when it's under siege, in the later parts of the curbstomp war, so he can't be a merman. Unless he like, has a merman tail as well as legs, which might be cool...

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Four Up

Posted: 2010-05-02 11:05am
by tricksterson
Just a SWAG (Scientific Wild-Ass Guess) on my part but to take to two examples I would think Belzebub would probably look like the typical demon with maybe an insectoid cast (mandibles, maybe compound eyes although that's unlikely since it wasn't mentioned and it's the sort of thing that would be because it would affect his perceptions) to his features, likewise Dagon and ichthyioid features (scales, maybe gills).

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Four Up

Posted: 2010-05-02 11:05am
by PaperJack
What's going to be in book 3 aniways ? Who are we going against ? The purgatory ?

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Four Up

Posted: 2010-05-02 11:09am
by tricksterson
PaperJack wrote:What's going to be in book 3 aniways ? Who are we going against ? The purgatory ?
I believe Book 3, from what Stuart has droped is best summed up as "We've conquered Heaven and Hell, now what do we do with them? Oh shit." possibly also we might meet the devils mentioned here and there and members of other pantheons. I'd also like to see something doe with the "orcs" who apparently were the original inhabitants of Hell. For that matter why haven't we seen anything involving integrating them into our armed forces. Equal Rights For Orcs Now!

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Posted: 2010-05-02 11:26am
by Night_stalker
Hey, maybe we can do a LOTR remake, with Tolkien supervising and with actual orcs! Incidentally, how would JRR react to Peter Jackson's interpatation of the novels? He always thought that the books were unfilmable.

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Posted: 2010-05-02 12:06pm
by Spekio
Nematocyst wrote:I wonder how will all the Christians go when they learn we killed Jesus (again.)

Have we learned what Jesus is?
If he is an angel, because then we couldn't have *really* killed him. If Human/Nephilim, then he wouldn't be able to stay in earth for too long(since he would be dead, had we killed him or not,due to old age).
Perhaps he could be a young version of what Yaweh/Satan is.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Four Up

Posted: 2010-05-02 12:55pm
by Night_stalker
Well, after the ME is done we'll know for sure. Of course, that assumes we leave enough to even examine.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Four Up

Posted: 2010-05-02 01:49pm
by kosst amojan
Hello, new guy here.

I asked Stuart this but hopefully he's too busy writing, anyway a friend of mine recommended that I check out these stories and after reading the first chapter of Armageddon I realized how awesome it is...then I found Stravo's compilation and realized it was practically as long as a book. No problem I thought, I'll just read it in my ereader.

However after cutting and pasting the first 3 or 4 chapters from the first story from thread into a word document, that got kind of old quick. So I was wondering if any of you had the story compiled somewhere and you could send it to me? If you do, please PM me so I can send you my e-mail Thanks.

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Posted: 2010-05-02 01:58pm
by Ritterin Sophia
Nematocyst wrote:That's a bit too cartoony, IMO. But I agree: that's how the normal infantry demon would look like.
I was simply talking about the basic anatomy sans the head. It's not to include the firebreathing, flaming whip, and vorpal sword.

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Posted: 2010-05-02 01:59pm
by Pendrake
hey, first time poster, but been following the story since the start, great read so far..though... i do agree with what someone said a bit back about it being a little Americocentric. I'm Canadian ;) and our special forces DO hold the current long distance sniping record. give the Canucks a lil screen time. :D

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Posted: 2010-05-02 02:01pm
by Darth Wong
kosst amojan wrote:Hello, new guy here.

I asked Stuart this but hopefully he's too busy writing, anyway a friend of mine recommended that I check out these stories and after reading the first chapter of Armageddon I realized how awesome it is...then I found Stravo's compilation and realized it was practically as long as a book. No problem I thought, I'll just read it in my ereader.

However after cutting and pasting the first 3 or 4 chapters from the first story from thread into a word document, that got kind of old quick. So I was wondering if any of you had the story compiled somewhere and you could send it to me? If you do, please PM me so I can send you my e-mail Thanks.
Actually, Stuart intends to publish this story someday, so the assembly and printing of a Word document would be considered a copyright violation. Please try to content yourself with reading it on-line, until such time as the dead-tree version becomes available.

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Posted: 2010-05-02 02:11pm
by JN1
Stu does accept contributions from other authors, so if you are so inclined add a Canadian scene. Some of the non-US scenes in Armageddon were written by others, as were some of the earlier parts of Pantheocide.
I've been a bit too busy with my own work to contribute much this time around.

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Four Up

Posted: 2010-05-02 03:06pm
by kosst amojan
Darth Wong wrote: Actually, Stuart intends to publish this story someday, so the assembly and printing of a Word document would be considered a copyright violation. Please try to content yourself with reading it on-line, until such time as the dead-tree version becomes available.
Didn't know that, I guess it kinda makes sense. Though I don't know of a publisher that would be happy that the story he's trying to sell is posted for free online.

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Posted: 2010-05-02 04:31pm
by Nematocyst
Spekio wrote: Have we learned what Jesus is?
If he is an angel, because then we couldn't have *really* killed him. If Human/Nephilim, then he wouldn't be able to stay in earth for too long(since he would be dead, had we killed him or not,due to old age).
Perhaps he could be a young version of what Yaweh/Satan is.
We don't exactly know what it is, but we do know for sure he was never on Earth.
At least, not personally. The 'Jesus' the Romans killed was a human possessed by actual Jesus. It was his Avatar, if you will.

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Posted: 2010-05-02 04:36pm
by Spekio
Nematocyst wrote:
Spekio wrote: Have we learned what Jesus is?
If he is an angel, because then we couldn't have *really* killed him. If Human/Nephilim, then he wouldn't be able to stay in earth for too long(since he would be dead, had we killed him or not,due to old age).
Perhaps he could be a young version of what Yaweh/Satan is.
We don't exactly know what it is, but we do know for sure he was never on Earth.
At least, not personally. The 'Jesus' the Romans killed was a human possessed by actual Jesus. It was his Avatar, if you will.
Could you please point me to the part that says that Jesus was nerver phisically on earth?

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Posted: 2010-05-02 04:54pm
by RowanE
Nematocyst wrote:
Spekio wrote: Have we learned what Jesus is?
If he is an angel, because then we couldn't have *really* killed him. If Human/Nephilim, then he wouldn't be able to stay in earth for too long(since he would be dead, had we killed him or not,due to old age).
Perhaps he could be a young version of what Yaweh/Satan is.
We don't exactly know what it is, but we do know for sure he was never on Earth.
At least, not personally. The 'Jesus' the Romans killed was a human possessed by actual Jesus. It was his Avatar, if you will.
Jesus possesses people. That's probably easy for him to do, but if the Jesus of mythology being some random guy being possessed ends up as canon (is that what you meant?) then this story will enter a whole new level of subverting religion. Which, as an atheist, i consider awesome. Also, as someone who likes messing with the agreed dogma. Because posessing a dude is like mind rape.

So i guess when he was resurrected, that would be...
actual jesus using mind powers to look like random-possessed-guy-jesus?
some other random guy who looks pretty similar, given stigmata and possessed?

I hadn't thought about it before, but if he's actually the son of yahweh, which seems to be the case, then he should be huge, like yahweh and the higher-ranked angels, so he couldn't have been the jesus that walked among humanity on earth, unless angels grow really slowly, and don't grow wings until adolescence or later. It should be surprising for the army when they see a gigantic angel leading the angelic host, because that's not what Jesus is meant to look like, to them.
Not that that'll help him in the slightest, he'll still be singled out on the basis of "big guy in angelic/demonic armies = commander" and pulverised by HE.

Also, how would yahweh have a son? He doesn't seem to have a wife/concubine/harem, and i'm not sure how much bigger than any of the females he might be. Let alone a human female like in the mythology... squick.

What Jesus is, then, is a good question.

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Posted: 2010-05-02 05:20pm
by Nematocyst
Spekio wrote:Could you please point me to the part that says that Jesus was nerver phisically on earth?
Stuart said so himself, off-story.
RowanE wrote:Jesus possesses people. That's probably easy for him to do, but if the Jesus of mythology being some random guy being possessed ends up as canon (is that what you meant?) then this story will enter a whole new level of subverting religion.
Indeed it is what I meant.
So i guess when he was resurrected, that would be...
actual jesus using mind powers to look like random-possessed-guy-jesus?
some other random guy who looks pretty similar, given stigmata and possessed?
Even better: it was the reanimated corpse of Christ
Possession works on EM impulses, subverting them to the possessor's will, doesn't it? Jesus kept possessing Christ even after he died by feeding him impulses, keeping his body alive. Think super possession.

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Posted: 2010-05-02 06:14pm
by RowanE
Nematocyst wrote:Possession works on EM impulses, subverting them to the possessor's will, doesn't it? Jesus kept possessing Christ even after he died by feeding him impulses, keeping his body alive. Think super possession.
Oh hell yes. So Zombie Jesus actually was Zombie Jesus? win.

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Posted: 2010-05-03 01:48am
by Seggybop
kosst amojan wrote:Hello, new guy here.

I asked Stuart this but hopefully he's too busy writing, anyway a friend of mine recommended that I check out these stories and after reading the first chapter of Armageddon I realized how awesome it is...then I found Stravo's compilation and realized it was practically as long as a book. No problem I thought, I'll just read it in my ereader.

However after cutting and pasting the first 3 or 4 chapters from the first story from thread into a word document, that got kind of old quick. So I was wondering if any of you had the story compiled somewhere and you could send it to me? If you do, please PM me so I can send you my e-mail Thanks.
Try hitting "print view"
you'll have a much easier time with that

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Four Up

Posted: 2010-05-03 04:41am
by GrayAnderson
tricksterson wrote:
PaperJack wrote:What's going to be in book 3 aniways ? Who are we going against ? The purgatory ?
I believe Book 3, from what Stuart has droped is best summed up as "We've conquered Heaven and Hell, now what do we do with them? Oh shit." possibly also we might meet the devils mentioned here and there and members of other pantheons. I'd also like to see something doe with the "orcs" who apparently were the original inhabitants of Hell. For that matter why haven't we seen anything involving integrating them into our armed forces. Equal Rights For Orcs Now!
JN1 wrote:Stu does accept contributions from other authors, so if you are so inclined add a Canadian scene. Some of the non-US scenes in Armageddon were written by others, as were some of the earlier parts of Pantheocide.
I've been a bit too busy with my own work to contribute much this time around.
I might try my hand at something for book three in spite of vehement denials of any plans to do anything...don't know if it'll even be passable writing, but I'll at least try to make the attempt.
RowanE wrote:
Nematocyst wrote:Possession works on EM impulses, subverting them to the possessor's will, doesn't it? Jesus kept possessing Christ even after he died by feeding him impulses, keeping his body alive. Think super possession.
Oh hell yes. So Zombie Jesus actually was Zombie Jesus? win.
Nah. The bank just showed up. He was re-possessed.[/bad pun]

Re: The Salvation War: Pantheocide. Part Sixty Four Up

Posted: 2010-05-03 11:48am
by kosst amojan
Seggybop wrote:Try hitting "print view"
you'll have a much easier time with that
Did that and with extensive use of formatting and find/replace, ended up with a halfway decent html.

BTW: ignore my previous post, I looked around and Stuart sells his books on Lulu, always a good choice. I'd buy them if they weren't in dead tree format.