The Open Door (megacrossover)

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Umm Holyknight, even over at SB that's getting annoying. Here....

They'll castrate you.

[Gulping Again]

Let's change the subject to something that won't lead down horrible horrible roads. Something uplifting, like Bokurano. The mechs in that thing seem like they'd be an excellent military asset for NeoChaos to try and pilfer.

Granted, actually trying to get one would be nightmarish. They're most likely more than capable of punching through any defense NC has, and the actual production of them is handled by beings capable of destroying entire universes. Probably be better off hopping over to Zone of the Enders and stealing some Orbital Frame tech. Something like the Vector Cannon would be a most useful asset to have around.

[MichaelAwesome]

Let's change the subject to something that won't lead down horrible horrible roads. Something uplifting, like Bokurano. The mechs in that thing seem like they'd be an excellent military asset for NeoChaos to try and pilfer.

Yeah, any non-Eva mecha would be great for small infantry support and logistics, requiring far less maintenance that the Evangelion units, so it'd be a matter of quantity over quality: Gundam (any), Macross, Robotech, Tekkaman, Escaflowne, etc.

Other possibilities:
Convenant tech from “Halo,” like the Banshee and Phantom Dropship.

‘Low-tech’ manipulation of matter, gravity, and dark energy from “Mass Effect.” Also, there's also a mysterious group known as Collectors that could be retconned as bounty hunters for neoChaos but without knowledge of who they're really working for.

Control metal augmentation from “Guyver: BioBoosted Armor” (they make a movie with Mark Hamill, a.k.a. Luke Skywalker)

Talyn from “Farscape.” The sentient gunship opened a kamikaze dimensional rift to destroy his enemies, but neoChaos could save the biomechanical Peacekeeper/Leviathan hybrid. Also, leviathan physiology might be more compatible with Chaotic tech than current Angelic components, so imagine an Angelic/Leviathan hybrid with Chaotic tech implanted into its body. How badass would that be?

The Praksis Pragma from “Vandread,” a semi-sentient energy source.
Dita: “Hello, Ms.Alien! Can I get an autograph?”
CaptRong: “Ummm, sure, anything for a fan.”
Dita: "WOOT!"

[Mutant Headcrab]

Speaking of exotic energies, what if neoChaos gained access to Getter Rays? Incredibly powerful source of energy and jump starts evolution. Of course, the real benefit is the tendency for Getter Rays to "evolve" exposed machinery. In one of the earlier Super Robot Wars, you had Mazinger Z and Getter Robo getting transformed into Mazinkaiser and Shin Getter from exposure. In the Getter Robo manga, you've got Getter Rays causing one of the many Getter variants to combine with Mars and transform into the solar system sized Getter Emperor.

Just think what a burst of good ol' Getter Rays could do to something like the Stiletto.

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I believe Getter Rays were flat out banned in that NewChaos didn't want to go anywhere NEAR that universe. Getterverse is up there at around TTGL's episode 12 or so for sheer batshit craziness and firepower. Its not TTGL itself (meaning the galaxy tall ubermensch-mech) powerful, but its up there once the hotblood starts flowing, pilots start screaming, and black speed lines/shaking camera angles show up EVERYWHERE.

Guyver might be nice, if we're talking about the movies (btw, David Hayter (aka: Solid Snake) was the main lead in the 2nd one). IIRC even in the 2 live-action movies a person with the unit can take a hell of a lot of damage, as long as the unit isn't damaged, and just keep coming. Askuhon & Tzintchi would likely really like them. The anime(s)...not so much. The Super Guyver/Guyver Lord that shows up near the end of it is pretty much a 10x taller then normal Guyver and a walking Macross Cannon. I'd hesitant to even put a Primarch against one even with an EVA backing him up.

Covenant tech + UNSC tech (MJNOLIR & SPI armors) would be nice. That and if they can get their hands on a Sentinel, or even a Sentinel Prime. I know Askuhon would dearly love some of the Brute's weapons (she'd probably orgasm over a Spiker), while Reigle might just give the Gravemind a run for its money and try to incorporate some of its biological 'enhancements' into her own daemons. *winces at that thought* One -nice- thing about it though is that Halo 1-3, Recon/OSDT, and Wars all had come out prior to the events in Thousand Shinji/Open Door. So they know very well that the Elites are going to be shafted and that it was the Prophets (and Brutes, to a lesser (dumber) extent) that were truly at fault. So it might be quite easy to not only pick up the UNSC as allies, but also drag the Sanghelli/Elites along too. On that note: I seriously want to see a Hunter take on a Space Marine. Not to kill him, but just in a good-old "we're gonna westle" match. Full contact. Would be an awesome fight. Also the MJNOLIR & SPI armors, more the SPI armor, would be dearly loved by the non-Space Marine ground forces.

I'd actually rather see the Stiletto show up next to the UNSC Von Braun & UNS Rickenbacker immediately after a certain cyborg's awakening. To say the two hostile antagonists on board both ships would have an Out of Context moment would be an understatement.

[Valorie]

Tzintchi is all about plans within plans, so just in case the upcoming clusterfuck (W40K/SW/BtvS) goes REALLY bad for neoChaos, they might want to send a few ships beyond the Great Warding so that some of their people will survive if the neoChaos Empire gets destroyed. The Stargate universe is too close to the Hubs and Nanoha's reality for it to be safe, so somewhere near the Doldrums would make a better place to hide for several generations until their social infrastructure and technology can be rebuilt.

You need +5,000 individuals for long-term survival while maintaining genetic diversity. In a pinch, they could vat grow babies using harvested ovaries and sperm.

How many people does the Stiletto crew? What about all those Scouts that that exploring the larger multiverse? I know that Eldar craftsworlds are the size of small moons and can contain a dozen mini-ecosystems with plants and animals taken from their now-destroyed home planet.

[Gulping Again]

I believe Getter Rays were flat out banned in that NewChaos didn't want to go anywhere NEAR that universe. Getterverse is up there at around TTGL's episode 12 or so for sheer batshit craziness and firepower. Its not TTGL itself (meaning the galaxy tall ubermensch-mech) powerful, but its up there once the hotblood starts flowing, pilots start screaming, and black speed lines/shaking camera angles show up EVERYWHERE.

What, no mention of Getter Emperor, which was the biggest mecha of all before TTGL showed up? That bastard was the size of a solar system and disrupted planetary orbits just by being there. And even without that, Shin Getter at full power is supposed to be capable of destroying and remaking the entire universe.

In general, any Super Robot is to be avoided at all costs. They're almost all powerful enough to punch through the shielding, and once that happens good night Gracie. The SRW Multiverse is right out, since it's made of swiss cheese anyway and a forceful intrusion may be enough to bring down those veils separating one game from another and then you'd have to deal with MULTIPLE EVERYTHING.

As for Halo, the big prize in weaponry would be the Spartan Laser, which was shown to have enough power to crack 343 Guilty Spark's casing, something nothing else was capable of. The personal shielding would also be an asset, and the Mjolnir could be adapted and used as standard armor for non-SM infantry.

Mass Effect is interesting because all of the infantry weapons (except the Geth Pulse Rifle) are more or less gauss railguns. Also, the mass effect fields could be used to create nigh-bottomless magazines containing thousands of rounds of bolter ammo, which would be a huge advantage all on its own.

Someone mentioned the Shivans from Freespace earlier. Freespace has some real potential from the ATVF fighter weaponry. NC could more than likely miniaturize those weapons for Terminator use, and adapt them for the Evas and Bolos. It'd be a pretty safe universe to raid; the only things that could possibly pose a threat would be the Lucifer and Sathanas, which both have extremely dangerous weapons, like the Big Fucking Red Beam and the Lucifer's Mega Laser.

Another good idea: Full Metal Panic! has the Lambda Driver, which is like a more offensive version of an AT Field by the end of the series. That'd be a hell of a thing to have around.

[Alien-Carrot]

I just want to see what neoChaos would do with LEXX.
While most of the tech on lexx is substandard shit, the ability to blow up AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE is nothing to sneeze at.

[D1398342003]

Unreal Tournament 3's respawners allow dead troops to come back to life, and Shock Rifles and Bio Rifles could be quite interesting. Shock Rifles hit the target instantly. The impact occurs before the beam has reached the target at times.

Supreme Commander has huge armies and giant tanks and walkers that are capable of being constructed very quickly. And everything except the player's Command Mech is roboticly driven. In two hours a single commander without backup can build a line of twenty HUGE assault mechs or tanks. They wouldn't match up to a Bolo in any way, but the construction style could be adapted for use in the EVAs and the Bolos.

[MichaelAwesome]

Academia Nut might've said that Think's spidery children and descendants are going to be like the Shivan, so introducing Freespace might be redundant in plot progression, but I'm not sure.

I just want to see what neoChaos would do with LEXX.
While most of the tech on lexx is substandard shit, the ability to blow up AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE is nothing to sneeze at.

Umm, blowing up an entire universe is too reckless, even for neoChaos’ philosophies, but you can get similar results using the Genesis Device from “Star Trek 2: the Wrath of Khan.”

Not only do you blow up a planet/star/galaxy, a new one will form in a few weeks, which is far more stylish than a mere Death Star imitation.

Shatner: “KHAN!!!”

While intended to be used on lifeless worlds, the indiscriminate nature of Project Genesis also makes it a terrible weapon: if used on a life-bearing planet, Genesis would wipe out all life on the planet to create life in its design.

[Crayz9000]

For a mere shooter game, Unreal actually has a very diverse universe. I'd write about it here, but there's just so much information that it would probably wind up becoming its own article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal_(series)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal
http://www.geocities.com/unreal_palace/unrealweaps.html
http://liandri.beyondunreal.com/Unreal_Tournament

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Someone mentioned the Shivans from Freespace earlier. Freespace has some real potential from the ATVF fighter weaponry. NC could more than likely miniaturize those weapons for Terminator use, and adapt them for the Evas and Bolos. It'd be a pretty safe universe to raid; the only things that could possibly pose a threat would be the Lucifer and Sathanas, which both have extremely dangerous weapons, like the Big Fucking Red Beam and the Lucifer's Mega Laser.

I cry BS on that.
In the range that FS warships have they are easily on par with 40k firepower. Do remember that anti-warship BOMBS capable of being carried between 3 and 6 at a time on a bomber smaller then an F-111 are 30+ gigatons each! And even then it takes 4 or more to take out the really big ships. Yet those same huge warships have beams that can kill other ships of the same size in under 5 seconds (Sathanas w/ all four beams going up against damn near anything except the Colossus. And even the Colossus is screwed even -if- you un-nerf it's tables during the 'Their Finest Hour' mission). And while the Shivans have the 'big stick' beams, the GTVA's weapons aren't that far behind the Shivans either. Only the BFRed has no equal, while in fact the GTVA's raking beams are actually better/more powerful then the Shivans (and can do a wonderful job of truly ****ing up a ship's turrets).

The only true advantage NewChaos would have over the three FS powers (four if you count the Ancients) is the sheer range on some of their weapons. With the sole possible exception of whatever the hell all those Sathanas did to the Capella star.

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Umm, blowing up an entire universe is too reckless, even for neoChaos’ philosophies, but you can get similar results using the Genesis Device from “Star Trek 2: the Wrath of Khan.”

Wait until they run across the Deus Machina Demonbane universe. To use those wonderful internet idioms, Bricks will be shat, and minds will melt. Especially once they connect the dots between the Demonbane universe and the possibilities of what Haruhi and Kyon are in the Haruhiverse. Then it's all downhill from there.

[Gulping Again]

Someone mentioned the Shivans from Freespace earlier. Freespace has some real potential from the ATVF fighter weaponry. NC could more than likely miniaturize those weapons for Terminator use, and adapt them for the Evas and Bolos. It'd be a pretty safe universe to raid; the only things that could possibly pose a threat would be the Lucifer and Sathanas, which both have extremely dangerous weapons, like the Big Fucking Red Beam and the Lucifer's Mega Laser.

I cry BS on that.
In the range that FS warships have they are easily on par with 40k firepower. Do remember that anti-warship BOMBS capable of being carried between 3 and 6 at a time on a bomber smaller then an F-111 are 30+ gigatons each! And even then it takes 4 or more to take out the really big ships. Yet those same huge warships have beams that can kill other ships of the same size in under 5 seconds (Sathanas w/ all four beams going up against damn near anything except the Colossus. And even the Colossus is screwed even -if- you un-nerf it's tables during the 'Their Finest Hour' mission). And while the Shivans have the 'big stick' beams, the GTVA's weapons aren't that far behind the Shivans either. Only the BFRed has no equal, while in fact the GTVA's raking beams are actually better/more powerful then the Shivans (and can do a wonderful job of truly ****ing up a ship's turrets).

The only true advantage NewChaos would have over the three FS powers (four if you count the Ancients) is the sheer range on some of their weapons. With the sole possible exception of whatever the hell all those Sathanas did to the Capella star.

Ah, you're right. I DID forget about all that. Still, in a one-on-one confrontation (which is the only way NeoChaos should engage ANYTHING worth attacking) the Stiletto should be able to take out most anything in Freespace, including the Sathanas. (The rear of the ship is completely blind save for anti fighter weaponry. If you're persistent and insane, you can sink the Sathanas the first time you encounter it). Regarding the range of the weapons, the BFRed has a range of 7.4 km, while the Lucifer's Super Laser has a range of 30 km.

Besides, that means that it's all the more appealing as a target. Helios torpedoes, Tornado swarm missiles, Trebuchet heavy missiles, Maxim Cannons, UD-8 Kayser and Mekhu HL-7D blasters would be excellent additions to any arsenal, and the Erinyes, Pegasus, and Dragoon designs would be excellent starting points for NeoChaos fighter development. It's not like Ac's said anything about Evas being space-capable, right?

[D1398342003]

Someone mentioned the Shivans from Freespace earlier. Freespace has some real potential from the ATVF fighter weaponry. NC could more than likely miniaturize those weapons for Terminator use, and adapt them for the Evas and Bolos. It'd be a pretty safe universe to raid; the only things that could possibly pose a threat would be the Lucifer and Sathanas, which both have extremely dangerous weapons, like the Big Fucking Red Beam and the Lucifer's Mega Laser.

I cry BS on that.
In the range that FS warships have they are easily on par with 40k firepower. Do remember that anti-warship BOMBS capable of being carried between 3 and 6 at a time on a bomber smaller then an F-111 are 30+ gigatons each! And even then it takes 4 or more to take out the really big ships. Yet those same huge warships have beams that can kill other ships of the same size in under 5 seconds (Sathanas w/ all four beams going up against damn near anything except the Colossus. And even the Colossus is screwed even -if- you un-nerf it's tables during the 'Their Finest Hour' mission). And while the Shivans have the 'big stick' beams, the GTVA's weapons aren't that far behind the Shivans either. Only the BFRed has no equal, while in fact the GTVA's raking beams are actually better/more powerful then the Shivans (and can do a wonderful job of truly ****ing up a ship's turrets).

The only true advantage NewChaos would have over the three FS powers (four if you count the Ancients) is the sheer range on some of their weapons. With the sole possible exception of whatever the hell all those Sathanas did to the Capella star.

Ah, you're right. I DID forget about all that. Still, in a one-on-one confrontation (which is the only way NeoChaos should engage ANYTHING worth attacking) the Stiletto should be able to take out most anything in Freespace, including the Sathanas. (The rear of the ship is completely blind save for anti fighter weaponry. If you're persistent and insane, you can sink the Sathanas the first time you encounter it). Regarding the range of the weapons, the BFRed has a range of 7.4 km, while the Lucifer's Super Laser has a range of 30 km.

Besides, that means that it's all the more appealing as a target. Helios torpedoes, Tornado swarm missiles, Trebuchet heavy missiles, Maxim Cannons, UD-8 Kayser and Mekhu HL-7D blasters would be excellent additions to any arsenal, and the Erinyes, Pegasus, and Dragoon designs would be excellent starting points for NeoChaos fighter development. It's not like Ac's said anything about Evas being space-capable, right?

Just remember that all FS ships are slow and unmanouverable. Even a Federation ship could run circles around them. They'd be easy prey for NC ships.

[FLCNPNCH]

NewChaos needs to visit the SRW:OG universe, if only to nab some of the fucking insanely powerful tech they have.

By that I mean that most individual Banpresto Originals are powerful enough to go toe-to-toe with some of the most powerful Super Robots in existence and WIN. And here you've got an entire planet full of them. And they'd be relatively easy to infiltrate in order to grab the tech, and with enough meddling around with history NewChaos might be able to grab Aces such as Sanger Zonvolt and the ATX team for their own use.

And really, once they get Sanger on side there's not much that can stop them.

[Gulping Again]

NewChaos needs to visit the SRW:OG universe, if only to nab some of the fucking insanely powerful tech they have.

By that I mean that most individual Banpresto Originals are powerful enough to go toe-to-toe with some of the most powerful Super Robots in existence and WIN. And here you've got an entire planet full of them. And they'd be relatively easy to infiltrate in order to grab the tech, and with enough meddling around with history NewChaos might be able to grab Aces such as Sanger Zonvolt and the ATX team for their own use.

And really, once they get Sanger on side there's not much that can stop them.

Such an action would be nothing less than suicide. NeoChaos's big weakness is that they do NOT make allies easily. The only people who will go for them willingly are almost always deranged, and any normal people that do ally themselves with NC don't trust them at all(Kyon, SG-1, Galactica). The OG team have been attacked by like five different flavors of weird space crap. NC would be about as welcome as herpes.

It's not like God-Emperor Shinji is among their ranks, you know. He could probably have the entire EFA under his command in under a month. That's going to be the edge he has over NC, I think. NC has to operate at the fringes, sneaking and stealing. Emperor Shinji can waltz through the front door and ask for an alliance.

Why yes, I do think that this is probably going to go for a Emperor Shinji VS NeoChaos endgame. It's just too perfect.

[Richardson]

Except for the whole 'Implode the universe through unlawful and catastrophic levels of AWESOME! BADASSERY! part'. That would be problematic.

But, yes, I could see Emperor Shinji versus Tzeenchi, in an allout chessmatch to the death, for the fate of the multiverse.

And for some reason, I think I'd rather have Emperor Shinji than the alternative.

No offense, but NC is just plain-out wrongfeeling, in an awesome, but disconcerting way. I couldn't live there...

[bobnik]

And for some reason, I think I'd rather have Emperor Shinji than the alternative.

No offense, but NC is just plain-out wrongfeeling, in an awesome, but disconcerting way. I couldn't live there...

I disagree most wholeheartedly. Sign me up for NewChaos baby! It's leaders enjoy what they do, and aren't conflicted about their destiny. There's also the fact that Tzinchi has got three equals (or at least near equals) to share the load - heck the guy even has kids. Nothing like a family for keeping you stable.

[Jaeger]

I disagree most wholeheartedly. Sign me up for NewChaos baby! It's leaders enjoy what they do, and aren't conflicted about their destiny. There's also the fact that Tzinchi has got three equals (or at least near equals) to share the load - heck the guy even has kids. Nothing like a family for keeping you stable.

Speaking of family values, when are the neoChaos gods going to make their polygamous relationship official and get Married? It’d help “domesticate” Tzintchi (*snicker*) and give the citizens of Chaos Undivided an excuse to throw a planet-wide Mardi Gras festival of epic proportions.

IDEA: A while back, a shockwave cut off Vita from the Nanoha rescue crew and allowed Lars to make brief contact with Tzintchi, but the origin of the shockwave was never explained.

Now time in the Warp isn’t always linear and future events could have a retroactive affect on the past or present, so the energy released during the marriage of four newChaos gods (and subsequent honeymoon clusterfuck) might create a shockwave that’ll travel backwards through time, similar to a self-fulfilling paradox.

Depending on how much energy is released, the marriage of the four newChaos gods could create an overlap between real space and the immaterium of the Warp, similar to the Eye of Terror but “tamer” (if such a word could apply) and much, much smaller, which would make a wonderful place to raise the greater Daemon children of the gods, as well as serving as a last line of defense in case neoChaos’ enemies make it all the way to Earth Prime.

[Singular Quartet]

IDEA: A while back, a shockwave cut off Vita from the Nanoha rescue crew and allowed Lars to make brief contact with Tzintchi, but the origin of the shockwave was never explained.

Two different things, there. The shockwave that cut off Vita from the Nanoha crew was caused by Tzintichi, because he wanted them cut off. The connection between Tzintchi and Lars was caused by the four gods being drunk at a concert, Haruhi getting laid, and Iron Maiden playing "Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner" all at the same time.

[WillowBee]

Speaking of family values, when are the neoChaos gods going to make their polygamous relationship official and get Married? It’d help “domesticate” Tzintchi (*snicker*) and give the citizens of Chaos Undivided an excuse to throw a planet-wide Mardi Gras festival of epic proportions.

Awww, I love weddings!

The three mothers bound inside the original Evas could give away the brides (Yui Ikari, Kyoko Zeppelin Soryu, and Naoko Akagi); Hikari as the maid of honor; little Kali as the flower girl; Toji, Kensuke, and Pen-Pen as either best men or ushers; and Khemnu the First Daemon Prince as the priest to perform the ceremony.

Depending on how much energy is released, the marriage of the four newChaos gods could create an overlap between real space and the immaterium of the Warp, similar to the Eye of Terror but “tamer” (if such a word could apply) and much, much smaller, which would make a wonderful place to raise the greater Daemon children of the gods, as well as serving as a last line of defense in case neoChaos’ enemies make it all the way to Earth Prime.

They might want to hold the actual wedding in another reality away from their base of operations; otherwise an energy backlash could destroy all they’ve worked for, much like how Slaanesh obliterated the Eldar Empire when he was spawned.

The Battlestar universe is a great place to trash and might destroy most of the remaining Cyclons in an orgy of chaotic bliss.

[EarthScorpion]

Speaking of family values, when are the neoChaos gods going to make their polygamous relationship official and get Married?

I'm sorry, but this has to be said.

Are you complaining about the Goddess of Lust, Sex, Drugs and Rock 'n' Roll living in Sin?

[Jaeger]

I'm sorry, but this has to be said.

Are you complaining about the Goddess of Lust, Sex, Drugs and Rock 'n' Roll living in Sin?

No, I was thinking more like an ironic juxtaposition of character growth.

We’re so caught up in the pleasures of the flesh that we forget about the pleasures of the heart, soul, and mind. Mislaato is the goddess of lust and LOVE, so she’s entitled to bouts of romanticism and the desire to take her relationship with the other neoChaos gods to the next level.

And yes, it does set a good example for the children of the gods.

[FLCNPNCH]

NewChaos needs to visit the SRW:OG universe, if only to nab some of the fucking insanely powerful tech they have.

By that I mean that most individual Banpresto Originals are powerful enough to go toe-to-toe with some of the most powerful Super Robots in existence and WIN. And here you've got an entire planet full of them. And they'd be relatively easy to infiltrate in order to grab the tech, and with enough meddling around with history NewChaos might be able to grab Aces such as Sanger Zonvolt and the ATX team for their own use.

And really, once they get Sanger on side there's not much that can stop them.

Such an action would be nothing less than suicide. NeoChaos's big weakness is that they do NOT make allies easily. The only people who will go for them willingly are almost always deranged, and any normal people that do ally themselves with NC don't trust them at all(Kyon, SG-1, Galactica). The OG team have been attacked by like five different flavors of weird space crap. NC would be about as welcome as herpes.

The trick is not to let them know that newChaos actually exist, see. Just get some cultists into the upper echelons of the mech developers and voila...And I do believe I cited f-ing around with history to be a possible method.

Anyway, they could always try to grab Shadow-Mirror. I'm pretty sure they'd be perfectly fine with newChaos, and they're fairly nice people (Considering they were the good guys back home). Wodan Ymir's almost as good as the real thing.

BTW, near-instant alliance for most Super Robot universes - inform them of the Necrons and they'd hopefully be crawling over each other to help.

And for some reason, I think I'd rather have Emperor Shinji than the alternative.

No offense, but NC is just plain-out wrongfeeling, in an awesome, but disconcerting way. I couldn't live there...

In practice, you probably wouldn't mind living in their society. Because of, you know, the innate mental corruption of Chaos and stuff. You'd change over time. Sure, its repulsive to any sane person, but anyone who has anything to do with Chaos of any sort is most definitely NOT sane. At least, by our definition...



Finally, GUNxSWORD. Because Van would be easy to recruit (Grab the Claw, tie him up and give him to Van) and he's f-ing awesome. Dann of Thursday FTW.