Heroes

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2006-09-26 02:50am

Anyone else catch this show tonight?

Personally I liked it. It has alot of potential and the cast made it believable.

I guess we'll see how it pans out, but so far I'm a fan.

rhoenix · Post by **rhoenix** » 2006-09-26 03:23am

I saw it, and I thought it was an interesting take on the superhero genre. I'll reserve my judgement until I see more, though.

EDIT: clarified "things."

Caius · Post by **Caius** » 2006-09-26 08:07am

Yeah I really think it is going to be a show where you need to get into the plot a bit more and see how they develop the characters.

Although after watching the first episode and the preview for the up coming episodes, I have to say I'm interested and hoping it actually turns out to be a good series.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2006-09-26 10:34am

I liked it, and the imagery of the eclipse as they started the show.

I wonder what's up with the woman's reflection.
Does the brother have powers too, or was he just there to trigger the would-be politico's?
How many others are out there?

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2006-09-26 10:47am

Brother- Wonder Twin Powers Activate!
Woman- pyscho kill everybody reflection
Cheerleader- flipping wolvierine level regen.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-09-26 11:23am

LadyTevar wrote:Does the brother have powers too, or was he just there to trigger the would-be politico's?
How many others are out there?

I think that both brothers can fly, though its pretty badass that one of the emerging heroes is a congressman.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2006-09-26 11:38am

It has potential up the ass, but the writing and the acting badly needs improvement. I hope a lot of what I saw was pilot-itits and not an indication of what to expect in the future. I was contemplating changing the channel through most of the middle half-hour.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2006-09-26 04:15pm

I actually liked how it took its time introducing the main characters, myself.

Oh... shouldnt' this be in OtherSCIFI?

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2006-09-26 04:38pm

I liked it better when I saw it 2 years ago and they called it the 4400.

It was pretty good. The stuff with the cheerleader was pretty cool, though by the time she stuck her hand in the garbage disposal I was like "Ok, we get the point".
From what I read at AICN the next few episodes are as good as or better than the pilot, so I'll keep watching until it starts to suck or they cancel it.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-09-26 07:14pm

LadyTevar wrote:I actually liked how it took its time introducing the main characters, myself.

Oh... shouldnt' this be in OtherSCIFI?

I dunno, superhero stuff is generally in Fantasy, isn't it?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2006-09-26 07:56pm

The writing needs some serious work. The opening crawl was fucking awful and borderline insulting and the Indian guy's speech was too heavy-handed, too soon. A little less exposition would have fixed most of the problems I had with the pilot. I really like the characters so far, though - I even like the jailbait chick. Giving Wolverine's powers to a high school cheerleader is a clever twist. The last fifteen minutes I thought were great. I really do hope the problems are fixed because the groundwork for it to be the next Lost is there. I did think the X-Men #143 reference, as much as I enjoyed it, was a pretty blatant attempt to suck up to comics fans.

And clearly, Lost DVDs have been watched multiple times by the creators. They started laying the interconnectedness of the characters on pretty thick pretty early.

The blond woman's power, I guess, was a doppelganger.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2006-09-27 12:52am

Joe wrote:I did think the X-Men #143 reference, as much as I enjoyed it, was a pretty blatant attempt to suck up to comics fans.

I thought it was just to show how nerdy he was.

The blond woman's power, I guess, was a doppelganger.

Blond smash!

Seriously, though, didn't you see her computer? She fights crime with the awesome power of Linux! (or some other OS that can run KDE.)

Damaramu · Post by **Damaramu** » 2006-09-27 02:40am

Did I hear that "agent" drop a Matrix reference "Smith...Anderson" to Suresh?

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2006-09-27 08:23pm

Damaramu wrote:Did I hear that "agent" drop a Matrix reference "Smith...Anderson" to Suresh?

Ayup.

Battlehymn Republic · Post by **Battlehymn Republic** » 2006-10-11 01:39am

No comment on last night's episode?

I like it how this may very well be the first Japanese character in any media who is obsessively into American "manga."

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-10-11 02:04am

Battlehymn Republic wrote:No comment on last night's episode?

I like it how this may very well be the first Japanese character in any media who is obsessively into American "manga."

The last two minutes from last night are easily the most jarring thing I've ever seen on television.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2006-10-11 03:04am

Well, we know that even if it turns out to be impossible to kill the cheerleader permanently, she can be kept dead indefinitely if the foreign object which killed her remains lodged in place. This is consistent with her ribs not healing until she pushed them back in place after jumping off the crane in the pilot. Also, just in case the garbage disposal scene didn't make this clear (Emerson is suing NBC for that, by the way, on the grounds that it makes it appear dangerous to stick one's hand in one of their garbage disposals; I'm not making this up), she apparently doesn't feel pain.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-10-11 03:13am

RedImperator wrote:Well, we know that even if it turns out to be impossible to kill the cheerleader permanently, she can be kept dead indefinitely if the foreign object which killed her remains lodged in place. This is consistent with her ribs not healing until she pushed them back in place after jumping off the crane in the pilot. Also, just in case the garbage disposal scene didn't make this clear (Emerson is suing NBC for that, by the way, on the grounds that it makes it appear dangerous to stick one's hand in one of their garbage disposals; I'm not making this up), she apparently doesn't feel pain.

Is it NOT dangerous to stick your hand into a rotating bladed object?

And yeah, its like she has CIPA along with her regeneration, which is creepy if she's walking around with a dislocated arm and doesn't notice.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2006-10-11 07:32am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
RedImperator wrote:Well, we know that even if it turns out to be impossible to kill the cheerleader permanently, she can be kept dead indefinitely if the foreign object which killed her remains lodged in place. This is consistent with her ribs not healing until she pushed them back in place after jumping off the crane in the pilot. Also, just in case the garbage disposal scene didn't make this clear (Emerson is suing NBC for that, by the way, on the grounds that it makes it appear dangerous to stick one's hand in one of their garbage disposals; I'm not making this up), she apparently doesn't feel pain.
Is it NOT dangerous to stick your hand into a rotating bladed object?

And yeah, its like she has CIPA along with her regeneration, which is creepy if she's walking around with a dislocated arm and doesn't notice.

CIPA?

Incidentally, I think the politician-brother has got to be the biggest schmuck on the show. Yes, more evil than Siler.

(And when Siler took three or four bullets and then got up in the last episode, my mom screamed loud enough to deafen me in one ear...and yet she scoffs at comics. Go figure.)

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2006-10-11 10:49am

Hiro and Ando (hehe) are probably the best characters on the show.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-10-11 03:21pm

Molyneux wrote:CIPA?

Incidentally, I think the politician-brother has got to be the biggest schmuck on the show. Yes, more evil than Siler.

(And when Siler took three or four bullets and then got up in the last episode, my mom screamed loud enough to deafen me in one ear...and yet she scoffs at comics. Go figure.)

CIPA: Congenital Immunity to Pain with Anhydosity. You don't feel pain or sweat to regulate yourself. Its very bad, because pain teaches you not to do stuff like chew on your fingers.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2006-10-11 06:02pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Molyneux wrote:CIPA?

Incidentally, I think the politician-brother has got to be the biggest schmuck on the show. Yes, more evil than Siler.

(And when Siler took three or four bullets and then got up in the last episode, my mom screamed loud enough to deafen me in one ear...and yet she scoffs at comics. Go figure.)
CIPA: Congenital Immunity to Pain with Anhydosity. You don't feel pain or sweat to regulate yourself. Its very bad, because pain teaches you not to do stuff like chew on your fingers.

Ahh...I've heard of it, but not by that name. On the plus side, *she* doesn't have the associated problems...

Although, didn't she grimace when her hand was in the disposer? Then again, pain or no pain, it must not be pleasant to feel your bones being mangled...