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Even Einy has patrolled Wikipedia outside of VFDs. I don't care if they call this vote garnering. What they are doing is like holding a special election to remove someone from office and if I can't warn my friends whats going on, thats a problem.
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We just might have the victory we wanted. Our old friend Tanizaki started this mess with creating the VFD in the first place.
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Alyeska wrote:We just might have the victory we wanted.
Really? It looks like the Delete voters just keep calling VfDs until enough Keepers forget to show up or get fed up.

Given prep time, anyone could do this to some other article. And I know even they'd agree multiple VfDs on something like USS Kitty Hawk would be excessive.

Regardless of the fact he appears to have screwed up his nomination, there's too many "Delete" voters and they'll just renominate it correctly for #4. Unless of course it gets protected status, in which case it'll be a few months before they can start #4.
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You would think that the last 2 VFD were made my banded users would mean something.
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Glimmervoid wrote:You would think that the last 2 VFD were made my banded users would mean something.
3, if I'm correct in my assumption that (I would bet a moderate sum of money on this) there's a large amount of sockpuppeting going on, if only because I seriously doubt people without a vendetta against SDN would really care enough to muck about with such a non-notable page.

Do they have patrolled cruising around recently updated and created pages looking for irrelevance, or something? It sounds ludicrous.
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Is there some thing you can do if a user starts making racist comment?
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Glimmervoid wrote:Is there some thing you can do if a user starts making racist comment?
File a complaint with the wiki-admin.
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You know what? I'm starting to side with Tevar on this. I really don't care anymore.
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Fuck 'em. Let the kids declare victory over us in the "Great Wiki War" so they can jerk off to it for the next seven months.
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You know how Tanizaki went and VFD TrekBBS and said
Article does not comport with WP:WEB
Well i have just proved what a lying asshat he is. The website dose meet WP:WEB (even though it not policy).

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Oh yay, that fucktard Castaldo is back...
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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Oh yay, that fucktard Castaldo is back...
Strong Delete. for various reasons, including those listed above and those posted before. Mike_Castaldo 09:46, 26 August 2005 (EST)
30 of this user's 31 edits are voting on Stardestroyer.net-related VfDs. His 1 article space edit was restoring a VfD notice on to an article. --Nandesuka 14:14, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Oh yay, that fucktard Castaldo is back...
Did he troll this site or is he from one of the other VFD?
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Glimmervoid wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Oh yay, that fucktard Castaldo is back...
Did he troll this site or is he from one of the other VFD?
Other VFD. As for his trolling here, only the Mods know.
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I managed to show some of the Pro-deletion's sides bad behiavor and got one of the pro-deleters to expose another pro-deleter as incredibly biassed. Progress of sorts.
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Alyeska wrote:I managed to show some of the Pro-deletion's sides bad behiavor and got one of the pro-deleters to expose another pro-deleter as incredibly biassed. Progress of sorts.
Wait ... I don't see that. Was the contradiction deleted?
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what is the purpose of the Wub and Radiant posting how many contributions have been made, etc.? To make them think we are sock puppets? Why should it matter that some people signed up for wikipedia to prevent a groundless deletion?
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Chardok wrote:what is the purpose of the Wub and Radiant posting how many contributions have been made, etc.? To make them think we are sock puppets? Why should it matter that some people signed up for wikipedia to prevent a groundless deletion?
My guess is they have an interest in seeing the article deleted, so they're trying to discredit the 'Keep' side with the posts about contributions.

Alyeska called them on their obvious bias, so they went back and made a few concessions to the 'Keep' crowd by posting contribs of only a few of the 'Delete' Faction.
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Well, I see that meat-puppetry is kind of against the rules, per se. But I've made contributions outside the VFD (including vandalising revprez, much as he deserved it) so...what?
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Chardok wrote:Well, I see that meat-puppetry is kind of against the rules, per se. But I've made contributions outside the VFD (including vandalising revprez, much as he deserved it) so...what?
Vandalizing Revprez's user page is actualy a strike against allowing your vote.
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I've made contributions in the past, I just didn't join until the last VfD because I didn't realize one COULD register there.
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Alyeska wrote:
Chardok wrote:Well, I see that meat-puppetry is kind of against the rules, per se. But I've made contributions outside the VFD (including vandalising revprez, much as he deserved it) so...what?
Vandalizing Revprez's user page is actualy a strike against allowing your vote.
It's actually a strike against all of us.
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I noticed that Mike deleted the annotations on his voting record. Apparently everyone should see how we vote, but not how he votes.
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Restored.
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I hope the admin looks deeper then the surface and considers more then the votes. I see a concentrated effort by people to remove the article and they are using mud slinging and other nasty means to do it. Some random IP character walked in and deleted almost every single keep vote from the VFD. The level if immaturity and trollish behiavor from the delete crowd has me strongly suspecting this is a real organized effort by some people to try and remove the page.
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