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What the fuck, Dusseldorf?
It was conceived in the 1840s as a romantic opera set in the middle ages. So its shift to 1940s Nazi Germany with depictions of mass murder in gas chambers, rape and execution at the hands of SS henchmen was at the very least jarring.

But Düsseldorf opera house's take on Wagner's Tannhäuser proved to be so traumatic for some audience members that they had to be taken to hospital. Others slammed doors and booed as they stormed out of the theatre mid-performance.

The production, by director Burkhard Kosminski has now been unceremoniously pulled, with the theatre admitting it had been too much of a "psychological and physical strain" for many opera goers. For "artistic reasons", Kosminski steadfastly refused to change the most offensive scenes after an initial barrage of complaints following the opening night on Saturday.

The director's Nazi theme – including scenes of people dying in gas chambers, being shot and raped, and of members of a family having their heads shaved ahead of their execution – had been feted as one of the highlights of celebrations for the bicentenary of Wagner's birth this month.

The director of Rheinoper, Christoph Meyer, insisted that his company had not meant to offend, and that its purpose had been to "mourn, not mock" victims of the Holocaust.

But operagoers said the production had unrelentingly bombarded the audience with shocking Holocaust imagery from the start.

The opening scene depicted singers inside glass containers dropping to the floor as they were enveloped in a white fog – a clear allusion to the gas chambers that killed millions in Nazi death camps. Another scene that caused some in the audience to gasp and cover their faces showed an entire family having their heads shaved before being shot dead by the SS.

Michael Szentei-Heise, the head of Düsseldorf's Jewish community, reported that members of the audience had "booed and banged doors" as they left the performance before the end.

James Kennaway, an Oxford University historian, said that while it was certainly unusual in modern times, Wagner operas had in the past been held responsible for causing operagoers to seek medical help. "This is not the first time that doctors have been called in," he told the Guardian. "[Wagner's] operas have often produced extreme reactions and the list of singers, conductors and patrons who have keeled over dead after attending one and suffered a 'Wagnerian delirium' is amazing."

The Düsseldorf production had taken a "rather crude approach" to Wagner, often said to be Hitler's favourite composer, and his notorious antisemitic rages.

"This production rather hit the audience over the head with its message. It recalls the scenes in Ken Russell's film Lisztomania, in which Wagner emerges from a Nazi grave at a Nuremberg-style rally and shoots everyone with a machine-gun-cum-electric guitar. While Wagner has questions to answer in relation to the Third Reich, a degree of subtlety would help," Kennaway said.

In a statement, the managers of Rheinoper said they had been aware that the production would be controversial but admitted they had underestimated the huge psychological and physical impact it would have on some of the audience. "It's with great regret that we now respond to the fact that some scenes, in particular the very realistically portrayed shooting scene, caused such strong psychological and physical reactions in some visitors that some of them had to be taken into medical care," it said.

Kominski, 51, said he had interlaced the opera with "Nazi motifs" as a way of analysing the themes of guilt and atonement to explore the question as to "how one deals with the question of perpetrators and victims, and constitute a new order out of a world of terror". From now on the production will only be performed by Rheinoper as a concert.

Szentei-Heise told German media that the production had strayed so far from Wagner's original intentions that it was implausible. "This opera has nothing to do with the Holocaust. But I think that the audience has made this very clear to the opera house and the director."
What is this I don't even....

Thanas, is Dusseldorf full of closet Nazis or something?!

Have a very nice day.
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I guess they should have pulled a gay Hitler.

Kudos for the artistic integrity, even in the face of cancelation. If he wanted to make an impact on his audience, he succeeded.

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fgalkin wrote:Thanas, is Dusseldorf full of closet Nazis or something?!
From the sound of it they're not closet Nazis, just lazy and incredibly tone deaf.
Spekio wrote:Kudos for the artistic integrity, even in the face of cancelation. If he wanted to make an impact on his audience, he succeeded.
Neither his methods nor his objective are artistically impressive. Any idiot can make an impact - all you need to do is go up on stage and bite the head off of a chicken. And to what end? To say the Nazis were bad? I think we figured that one out when they showed up on Captain Planet as villain of the week.
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Art doesn't have to be artistically impressive to be good. Screen printing soup cans isn't impressive, yet it made an impact. This has done it's job by making an impact and getting press, not to mention that even things as seemingly vulgar as this help us remember why we never want another world war.
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Jub wrote:...not to mention that even things as seemingly vulgar as this help us remember why we never want another world war.
...You have completely and utterly failed at comprehending the work.

If you said it helps us remember why we never want another Nazi Germany, this would be a valid, if trivial, observation. But World War 2 is not what made the Nazis do all the horrible things in the opera; it's what stopped them doing these things. The world would not be a better place if the rest of the world had rolled over for Hitler; the Holocaust would simply be orders of magnitude bigger.
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Grumman wrote:
Jub wrote:...not to mention that even things as seemingly vulgar as this help us remember why we never want another world war.
...You have completely and utterly failed at comprehending the work.

If you said it helps us remember why we never want another Nazi Germany, this would be a valid, if trivial, observation. But World War 2 is not what made the Nazis do all the horrible things in the opera; it's what stopped them doing these things. The world would not be a better place if the rest of the world had rolled over for Hitler; the Holocaust would simply be orders of magnitude bigger.
No I haven't, the holocaust and WWII are interrelated and one will spark memories of the other. I might have said that it helps us remember why genocidal regimes must be stopped, but either is a valid point. The idea that the US has to police any and all dictatorships also shows why just remembering parts of the event are wrong.
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The point he is making and which you are missing is that WWII was a good thing in retrospect because it stopped the Nazis.

If you have to have a WW to stop Nazi2.0 it would be worth it.
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Grumman wrote:
Spekio wrote:Kudos for the artistic integrity, even in the face of cancelation. If he wanted to make an impact on his audience, he succeeded.
Neither his methods nor his objective are artistically impressive. Any idiot can make an impact - all you need to do is go up on stage and bite the head off of a chicken. And to what end? To say the Nazis were bad? I think we figured that one out when they showed up on Captain Planet as villain of the week.
What? So no one is allowed to make anything about Nazis? Artistic expression should just be stifled because most people know Nazi=Evil. Was Speilberg just a hack for making Schindler's List. "Yeah we know Steve, Nazis were dicks and a couple guys helped some Jews, thanks for the update. :roll:"

The only thing for me is do the play somewhere else. I mean, the one place that isn't going to forget the impact of the Nazi party and what they did is Germany. There are places that know what happened, but to see the imagery that this guy wanted to get out and the visceral feelings he wanted people to feel, would have a better impact and make people remember that it did actually happen and it wasn't just the History Channel.
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Havok wrote:
Grumman wrote:Neither his methods nor his objective are artistically impressive. Any idiot can make an impact - all you need to do is go up on stage and bite the head off of a chicken. And to what end? To say the Nazis were bad? I think we figured that one out when they showed up on Captain Planet as villain of the week.
What? So no one is allowed to make anything about Nazis? Artistic expression should just be stifled because most people know Nazi=Evil. Was Speilberg just a hack for making Schindler's List. "Yeah we know Steve, Nazis were dicks and a couple guys helped some Jews, thanks for the update. :roll:"
A lot of people didn't know "a couple guys helped some Jews", so a film about Oscar Schindler's efforts to thwart the Nazis has a more important message than one that is just about how much the Nazis were dicks.
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What message is that? There are nice people in the world? People that risk their lives to do what is right? Pfffft. Already knew that dude, total waste of time to try to get that message out. Captain Planet. Been there done that.
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People should not be made to suffer through bad art and be made to pay for that "privilege" just because the author wants to make a point about Nazis.

Oh and if anybody thinks this was pulled because Dusseldorf is full of closet Nazis or something like that he can just go screw himself, and the guardian did a pretty good hatchet job here making the head rabbi quote look like he somehow supported it. This is what he really said:
There had been no public demands to stop the production, but the theater decided to do so anyway. The leader of the Düsseldorf Jewish community, Michael Szentei-Heise described the production as "tasteless," but said he did not see the need to stop it, according to German news agency DPA. Wagner may have been a "fervent anti-Semite," but he didn't have anything to do with the Holocaust, he said.
(Spiegel online) http://www.spiegel.de/international/zei ... 98937.html

In the Jüdische Allgemeine, the Jewish community in Dusseldorf (http://www.juedische-allgemeine.de/arti ... w/id/15940) supported the decision to not show the opera and said that "anti-semitism is not reflected in Wagners music or libretto".
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