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I just got a phone call. Some creep attacked him with a knife outside his office building. He survived, getting away with only a minor wound to the neck and is filling out a police report as we speak, but this situation could have gone horribly worse.

I hope the Winnipeg Police Service arrests the asshole who tried that stunt soon.

Zor

I'm sorry to hear this, I hope your dad gets better quickly.

well that's shit.

What the fuck kind of mugging was that for him to end up cut? Did he value his wallet over his blood or was the guy just an aggro moron?

Could've been a meth head or something related. Twitchy, unpredictable, and all around nasty.

Best of luck to the cops in catching this guy.

weemadando wrote:What the fuck kind of mugging was that for him to end up cut? Did he value his wallet over his blood or was the guy just an aggro moron?

No. It was three kids off the reserves with a beer bottle who just wanted some money (they took some cash but left his wallet and cell phones).

Zor

I'm sorry to hear that Zor and I'm glad that the wound to his neck was minor. A few inches elsewhere, and, well...

To me it sounds like a bunch of self-entitled little shits. At least a meth head has an excuse of his brain being fucked over (though, all things considering, it may be better for your father that this wasn't the case). To me, this sounds like the fuckers just wanted some extra beer-money.

Zixinus wrote:I'm sorry to hear that Zor and I'm glad that the wound to his neck was minor. A few inches elsewhere, and, well...

To me it sounds like a bunch of self-entitled little shits. At least a meth head has an excuse of his brain being fucked over (though, all things considering, it may be better for your father that this wasn't the case). To me, this sounds like the fuckers just wanted some extra beer-money.

By my account they were drunk. This sort of bullshit is the result of the reserve system. A horrible relic of the 19th century and a shame to the otherwise great nation of Canada. It creates two legally defined classes of people based on race and begets bigotry, poverty and criminality.

Zor

Zixinus wrote:I'm sorry to hear that Zor and I'm glad that the wound to his neck was minor. A few inches elsewhere, and, well...

To me it sounds like a bunch of self-entitled little shits. At least a meth head has an excuse of his brain being fucked over (though, all things considering, it may be better for your father that this wasn't the case). To me, this sounds like the fuckers just wanted some extra beer-money.

Take it easy with the armchair psychology, doc.

That's shitty, Zor. Does Winnipeg have a lot of problems with First Nations youth? I understand you have a higher proportion of FN than any other city in the country.

Phantasee wrote:That's shitty, Zor. Does Winnipeg have a lot of problems with First Nations youth? I understand you have a higher proportion of FN than any other city in the country.

We do. Long story short the crap that goes on because of the reserve system spills over into Winnipeg.

Zor

Sorry about your dad Zor. Glad he's doing ok.

I'm assuming that the reserve system means the Indian reserves? If so, I didn't know it was a real issue with Canadians. I know here in the states, many Indian nations are considered impoverished, hence why they're building casinos as a draw for money. I know it's a shock that an American doesn't know what's going on outside his own country, but then again I guess I'm still fairly new to all this.

I think the biggest tragedy might be that it isn't a real issue with Canadians. We have third world shit holes in our own country, and people are oblivious to it.

Could you perhaps explain what you are talking about?

He is talking about how (for a variety of reasons) some reserves lack the basic necessities of a first world country. This is often the result of poor funding or mismanagement (The reserves system gives tribes a fair amount of autonomy in how they spend their money, and sometimes it is miss-used). Though I think most people overestimate the level of corruption on reserves, and underestimate how much more expensive it is to provide basic utilities and infrastructure in the remote regions of Canada.

Zor wrote: By my account they were drunk. This sort of bullshit is the result of the reserve system. A horrible relic of the 19th century and a shame to the otherwise great nation of Canada. It creates two legally defined classes of people based on race and begets bigotry, poverty and criminality.

Zor

What is this reserve system?

EDIT: I read other comments, and it is similar to the reservation system in the United States, where tribes have some autonomy over their borders, i.e., immunity from certain state laws and privileges under federal law. Perhaps it is similar in Canada, where the tribes have some level of autonomy from the provincial governments and privileges from the Canadian Parliament.

I do not know how this is related to the mugging in the opening post.

It's related because racists prefer to blame the victims of the system rather than the system itself (since they're a part of it).

Losonti Tokash wrote:It's related because racists prefer to blame the victims of the system rather than the system itself (since they're a part of it).

From what I read of the posts, the muggers simply wanted beer money. There was no indication from those posts that it was a racially motivated hate crime.

I can understand how a reserve system could create a sense of entitlement among First Nations youth, since their tribes have special privileges under Canadian Parliamentarian law, while people of Chinese or Greek descent, for example, can not have their own reserves and take advantage of those parliamentarian privileges.

They're not tribes, they're nations. That's why we call them First Nations.

You also took my statement completely backwards. :/

The racism discussion and related stuff about First Nations has been split here.

[moved into the other thread]

Thank you for the split.

Even though he was a bit shaken by it by his own admission mentally, he has gotten back to his own self.

Zor