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Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 09:12am
by aerius
Link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... treet.html
She's just a girl who can't say Nein: The Munich nymphomaniac claims a second victim after 36-hour sex ordeal
By Allan Hall
PUBLISHED: 11:51 GMT, 30 April 2012 | UPDATED: 06:20 GMT, 1 May 2012
German nymphomaniac who was arrested after forcing a man to make love to her eight times has struck again.
Her latest victim, an African, was found weeping in the street outside her apartment by police after a 36-hour ordeal.
He fought back his tears to tell them what had happened.
'I met her on a bus,' said the man. 'She invited me back here. Oh God, it was hell. I can't walk. Please help me.'
Munich police confirmed his ordeal in a press statement.
The woman, believed to be 47, has now been taken into a hospital for psychiatric observation.
The man only escaped from her apartment when she fell asleep.
Her first victim Dieter Schulz, 43, met her in a bar in the centre of his home city.
She took him back to her apartment and they had sex several times.
But when the woman demanded more, the exhausted man said no.
A police spokesman said: 'He complied with the woman's wishes another few times so he could finally leave the apartment.
'But when she continued to refuse and demanded even more sex from him, he fled to the balcony.'
Mr Schulz phoned police and pleaded for assistance.
'You have got to help me,' he told them. 'She is trying to kill me with sex. I cannot get out - and I cannot go on!'
When police arrived to question the woman and free Schulz she invited two officers to join her in bed for a 'quickie.'
They declined.
I'm not sure if there's anything else I can add, but yeah, you don't see this every day.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 09:52am
by Zaune
Calling BS right now, purely on account of it being a Daily Mail article.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 09:58am
by LaCroix
No, it's the real thing. This is the second time it hit the newspapers - first the guy on the balcony, now the african guy.
German tabloid, with link to the first occurance
German Magazine, same story
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 11:16am
by Aaron MkII
So this is what, rape, kidnapping and attempted murder?
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 11:52am
by fgalkin
Mike is asking on Facebook if the source explains why they couldn't simply leave? Was she holding them by force, or threatening them with a weapon?
Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 12:01pm
by Rabid
Clearly, men cannot be rapped by women. So this is indubitably bullshit, yeah.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 12:06pm
by LaCroix
With the first one, she locked the doors, but he managed to call the police and locked himself out on the balcony when she briefly fell asleep.
For the second guy, she was better prepared - she not only locked ALL the doors, but managed to hide all the phones (I guess she nicked his phone during a post coital nap or something) and let him only go after he wasn't of any use to her, anymore.
I don't know about her appearance, but both victims at first accompanied her 'eagerly', so she probably was of "normal" size. I have no idea how she could have forced them to go on - the articles don't explain it. I guess she completely exhausted them and then threatened with bodily harm if they didn't comply, as the charge was sexual assault, which implies coercion of some kind...
Or simply a case of 'stupid male pride'...
Neither the men, nor the police gave details.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 03:20pm
by Simon_Jester
How would this be attempted murder?
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 03:55pm
by Aaron MkII
Was just going by the title.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 04:20pm
by LaCroix
Simon_Jester wrote:How would this be attempted murder?
Forced dehydration?
I now seriously wonder how she made that guy fuck her for almost two days when he didn't want to. That man was reduced to tears by the traumatic experience, and I doubt she could have overpowered him. They would have reported it if she'd chained him to a bed...
Maybe "applied psychology"??
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-02 05:19pm
by Aaron MkII
Spike his water with viagra/cialas?
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-04 03:35am
by Skgoa
LaCroix wrote:
I now seriously wonder how she made that guy fuck her for almost two days when he didn't want to. That man was reduced to tears by the traumatic experience, and I doubt she could have overpowered him. They would have reported it if she'd chained him to a bed...
Most people aren't used to being brutalized. Since she is obviously sufficiently crazy, I wouldn't doubt that most men would rather comply than risk having to figth her. And obviously these men are suckers/idiots, since there would be plenty of ways to incapacitate/overpower her when she was asleep. I would bet a sizable sum of money that she had other victims before... they just got away without involving the police.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-04 08:25am
by Losonti Tokash
Skgoa wrote:And obviously these men are suckers/idiots, since there would be plenty of ways to incapacitate/overpower her when she was asleep.
Well, at least blaming/ridiculing the victim isn't just limited to female rape victims.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-04 08:31am
by LaCroix
Actually, I wonder if they weren't afraid (or told) that she'd use the chafing of multiple intercourses as evidence and blame them as rapist - who would have believed them?
And I'm sure she did this to many more, with most simply forcing their way out if she tried to hold them back.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-04 05:01pm
by PeZook
Threatening to accuse them of rape was the obvious idea that appeared to me, too. I mean, physical violence is well and good but risky as hell: how can you know the man you're threatening isn't actually accustomed to violence?
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-04 05:21pm
by Skgoa
Losonti Tokash wrote:Skgoa wrote:And obviously these men are suckers/idiots, since there would be plenty of ways to incapacitate/overpower her when she was asleep.
Well, at least blaming/ridiculing the victim isn't just limited to female rape victims.
Because "he is an idiot since he didn't think to tie her up (or do anything productive) while she was asleep" is exactly the same as "she probalby wanted it or she wouldn't have worn such a short skirt."
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-04 05:31pm
by Losonti Tokash
While your masterful analysis of the situation from the safety of your computer is no doubt flawless, you did basically say it's the victim's fault he found himself in this predicament.. No need to get defensive about it.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-05 01:28am
by PeZook
Skgoa wrote:
Because "he is an idiot since he didn't think to tie her up (or do anything productive) while she was asleep" is exactly the same as "she probalby wanted it or she wouldn't have worn such a short skirt."
If she threatened to accuse him of rape, how would tying her up in any way help?
And yes, it
is the same as blaming the victim. Do you think the only way women are raped is by use of physical force?
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-05 05:55pm
by Skgoa
Losonti Tokash wrote:While your masterful analysis of the situation from the safety of your computer is no doubt flawless, you did basically say it's the victim's fault he found himself in this predicament.. No need to get defensive about it.
You are right... other than I never said that, of course. But go on, listen to the voices in your head. There is much straw that still needs to be attacked...
And just to stop you from moving the goalposts, as you undoubtedly would, here is the important part of my post:
"I would bet a sizable sum of money
that she had other victims before... they just got away without involving the police."
Note how there is nothing blaming the victims in there.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-05 06:20pm
by Losonti Tokash
Quit being such a prick about it. You said he should have done something and that he's clearly an idiot for not taking any available action to escape. There's plenty of actions available to female rape victims to incapacitate their attackers but we don't see people going around saying they're idiots for not jamming their thumbs in their attackers' eyes, because that's blaming the victim and doesn't take anything other than brute physical force into account. You're removed enough from the situation that you can say "well he should have done this," which is all fine and dandy, but assuming some kind of moral or intellectual superiority over the victim just makes you an ass. Particularly considering your near total ignorance of the circumstances.
The best part, though, is you saying "well he should have tied her up or done something while she was asleep," when making a break for it while she slept is literally what happened.
Edit: You have apparently edited your post to point out something else you said that I didn't take any issue with. Congratulations, I guess?
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-06 09:53am
by Akhlut
PeZook wrote:If she threatened to accuse him of rape, how would tying her up in any way help?
Nothing like leaving a person tied up after sex to convince people that, in fact, you were the one being raped!
Plus, what if she died from dehydration after being tied up and couldn't get anyone's attention? Escape attempt turns into murder, then.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-06 07:32pm
by Vashon
No, I think the current myth now is that only men can be rapist, not that men cant be victims.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-07 08:45am
by Lord of the Abyss
Rabid wrote:Clearly, men cannot be rapped by women.
Sure they can (and on occasion have). Tie the man up or otherwise keep him from escaping or resisting (have him held down, put a gun to his face, etc). Then force an erection; if threats or stimulation doesn't work, wrap a cord around his neck and strangle him (preferably nonlethally). Strangulation has long been known to cause erections as a side effect; hangings were well known for producing one last erection.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-07 11:19am
by Zaune
Vashon wrote:No, I think the current myth now is that only men can be rapist, not that men cant be victims.
Actually, that's technically true under the British legal definition of rape, or at least it was until fairly recently. Women can still be charged with indecent assault, however, as well as
accessory to rape.
Re: Attempted death by snoo-snoo in Germany
Posted: 2012-05-07 05:27pm
by Rabid
Lord of the Abyss wrote:Rabid wrote:Clearly, men cannot be rapped by women.
Sure they can (and on occasion have). Tie the man up or otherwise keep him from escaping or resisting (have him held down, put a gun to his face, etc). Then force an erection; if threats or stimulation doesn't work, wrap a cord around his neck and strangle him (preferably nonlethally). Strangulation has long been known to cause erections as a side effect; hangings were well known for producing one last erection.
Thanks for the instructive details, though I should maybe precise I was being sarcastic.