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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Elfdart » 2012-10-29 07:09pm

Havok wrote:So ED, Norv, unless the Chargers make the playoffs, should be gone. So, Andy Reid, Ron Rivera (who I know you wanted previously) or an unknown?


That kinda depends on whether it's just Norv who gets sent to the Tower or if The Lord of No Rings gets the axe too. If it's just Norv and Rivera and/or Chud are available that's about a 90% slam-dunk. Zimmer and Zampese from the Bengals would be great as well. I don't think AJ or any other GM will ever have a staff where the HC does double-duty as OC again. That rules out Mariucci, Reid and Chucky.

I'm also assuming that AJ will pick coaches who will want to keep Rivers and most of the offensive scheme intact.

If it's a totally new GM, who knows? They might purge everyone age 30 and older (including Rivers) and start the entire offense and offensive staff all over again.



Havok wrote:Dude... How the fuck did the Browns hold the Chargers to two field goals? :lol:

I just can't get over that. That is like Raider quality ineptitude.


The two things Norv had going for him was his ability to coach a high-scoring offense and groom QBs. Well the offense hasn't scored a touchdown in six quarters and Rivers is starting to look like Jim Everett during the nadir of his career. Norv is toast. I only hope he can take The Lord of No Rings down with him.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-10-29 10:35pm

You know, Skelton doesn't look that bad. He is beating us pretty well when we blitz him and he stands tall in the pocket.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-10-29 10:37pm

And would someone tell Gruden there is no 'T' in Goldson.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Flagg » 2012-10-29 10:47pm

I love Chucky, but I've come to the conclusion that he's a moron. Yeah he got the Bucs to the SB, but he did it with Dungy's team, so I dunno man.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-10-29 11:15pm

He got the Raiders to the Superbowl too, don't forget that. :lol:
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-10-29 11:43pm

Man, just domination. Love it.

Crabtree went off. Moss showed he still has it. Davis made some plays, Walker looks to be all the way back, Hunter looks just as good as Gore when he spells him and Gore is still just a beast.

Most importantly, they beat a team they were supposed to beat. No let down.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Sephirius » 2012-10-31 12:11pm

Given the recent news from Disney/Lucas...

Some of the comments made me chuckle.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Tsyroc » 2012-10-31 02:50pm

Havok wrote:You know, Skelton doesn't look that bad. He is beating us pretty well when we blitz him and he stands tall in the pocket.


Neither Skelton nor Kolb are completely horrible, they are better than the QBs that some teams are stuck with. The Cards line is just terrible though. Even when they have all their starters they are pretty bad. It's why they can't really run the ball and that just makes their pass protection even worse because teams don't really have to worry about them running it.

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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-10-31 06:44pm

Elfdart wrote:I don't think AJ or any other GM will ever have a staff where the HC does double-duty as OC again. That rules out Mariucci, Reid and Chucky.

Mooch (who I think has been out of football too long) and Reid I agree with... Chucky though.

People have been speculating that this was the job he was waiting for. Also, Chucky knows how to win with veterans, not with young players. He needs guys that are smart and can understand his system. If the team is kept intact, he would be perfect for the Chargers right now. Look for him to bring in some aging wideouts like Moss if he decides to stick around and even someone like Owens (who probably will still be able to play next year). He can call plays and manage a team unlike apparently guys like Rex and Crennell who seem to literally have no input on their offense whatsoever.

He would absolutely love to coach Rivers too. I mean if he can turn Brad Johnson and Rich Gannon into Superbowl caliber QBs, think what he could do with Rivers.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Elfdart » 2012-11-01 11:51pm

So the Chargers' line finally blocks, and aside from a boneheaded pick in the end zone, Marmalard was perfect. The defense gets some turnovers and lo and behold -the team actually beats one the NFL's bottomfeeders! Extra props to receivers coach Charlie Joiner for taking two newly-signed receivers who between them have been with the team 14 days total and getting them to play like they've been with the team for years.

Punt returner is now an area of need since risking an All-Pro safety like Weddle returning punts is stupid and he's muffed/fumbled three times in two games.

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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-11-02 04:35am

Man, you just are never going to be rid of him. :lol:
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Elfdart » 2012-11-03 06:55pm

Best moment from Thursday night:

The entire O-line for the Chiefs absolutely whiffs while backed up near their own end zone. Jarret Johnson gets an easy sack, forces a fumble that a teammate recovers for an easy TD, then walks over to the sidelines to be congratulated by his teammates...

Then headbutts one of the guys who is not wearing a helmet -right in the face!

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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-11-04 07:08pm

Fucking 18 for 244 and 3TDs... WHY THE FUCK DO YOU TAKE HIM OUT OF THE GAME?!?!?! FUMBLE!!! That's what you get dumb fuck!
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-11-04 07:33pm

Fucking Carson Palmer. Man.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-11-04 07:35pm

The Buccs look really solid though. 4-4 and the way their offense is playing, no one is going to want to play your team Flagg.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Elfdart » 2012-11-04 07:39pm

Havok wrote:Fucking Carson Palmer. Man.


He threw it 61 times -inevitably some were going to go to the other team.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-11-04 07:45pm

Honestly, it still looks like communication problems. There was no run game at all, and I'm surprised the Buccs didn't just drop into Zone and pic off 6 more throws. I mean, going man to man with the Raiders is fucking retarded especially when their fucking fullback can out run your corners. :lol: The shouldn't even have got back in this game. I like Schiano, but he needs to learn this isn't college anymore.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Flagg » 2012-11-04 07:59pm

So far the Bucs have beaten the shit out of two teams that suck, no offense I like the Raiders. I'm liking what I'm seeing, though.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Havok » 2012-11-04 08:25pm

Gawd I hate that stupid Sunday Night Football theme song, but holy shit Faith Hill has some amazing legs.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Terralthra » 2012-11-04 09:12pm

Man, fucking refs. Steelers actually play fairly clean, get penalized for non-existent "hits to the head." Won anyway, but still stupid. Oh, and the free touchdown the refs gave the Giants too, off a "fumble" that was actually an incomplete pass caused by what should have been a penalty for clipping. Brilliant!

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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Elfdart » 2012-11-05 08:03am

So Sean Payton's contract has been voided by the NFL, making him available at season's end. Payton lives in DFW, has many connections with the Cowboys, is probably eager to jump off the sinking ship in New Orleans and...







I think Jerry Jones just came in his pants.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby houser2112 » 2012-11-05 09:37am

Terralthra wrote:Man, fucking refs. Steelers actually play fairly clean, get penalized for non-existent "hits to the head." Won anyway, but still stupid. Oh, and the free touchdown the refs gave the Giants too, off a "fumble" that was actually an incomplete pass caused by what should have been a penalty for clipping. Brilliant!
Yeah, that series was embarrassing for me, and would have marred a Giants victory if that came to pass. As it turned out, the Giants embarrassed themselves by managing very little offense the rest of the game.

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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Col. Crackpot » 2012-11-05 02:33pm

Elfdart wrote:So Sean Payton's contract has been voided by the NFL, making him available at season's end. Payton lives in DFW, has many connections with the Cowboys, is probably eager to jump off the sinking ship in New Orleans and...







I think Jerry Jones just came in his pants.


This toolbag will never give Payton the kind of control he would want. Bill Parcells was the only coach who had any sort of real power in Dallas since Jerry made himself GM for life. And only because, well... Bill fucking Parcells.
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Re: NFL 2012

Postby Elfdart » 2012-11-05 07:34pm

Col. Crackpot wrote: This toolbag will never give Payton the kind of control he would want. Bill Parcells was the only coach who had any sort of real power in Dallas since Jerry made himself GM for life. And only because, well... Bill fucking Parcells.


Jerry runs in cycles. When the team sucks he'll bring in a real coach and allow him to coach the team. That is, until the team becomes good again -at which point he'll get rid of the coach and bring in a stooge who obeys Jerry's orders, no matter how idiotic.
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