"You let me down ref."Vaporous wrote:Come, my friends. Drink in the sweet milk of his shame.
"Sorry, I couldn't help you cheat anymore in Manningtown".
This makes the miss by Cundiff a lot easier to acccept.
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"You let me down ref."Vaporous wrote:Come, my friends. Drink in the sweet milk of his shame.
Do you get a ring for that? The last time the Steelers swept the Ravens they ended up getting these cool rings.Thanas wrote:Sweep, baby.
You get one Reich for every championship you win, at this rate Thanas won't get to a fourth reich until he is thousands ofHavok wrote: Dude, Fanboy, Thanas is going to start a Fourth Reich just to cleanse the world of you and me if we don't stop fucking with him.
I wish that would have happened so that "Sixburgh" and "San Fransixco" could be our default response to any and all Joe Flacco comments ever.Havok wrote:After watching the Superbowl and watching the Patriots play and their gameplan, I have no doubt SF would have walked away with #6.
Oh gawd... they are so much fucking worse... so much worse.Terralthra wrote:Man, if most Steelers fans are like Darth Fanboy, it's no wonder Havok hates 'em all.
Well we are still San Fivecisco.Darth Fanboy wrote:You get one Reich for every championship you win, at this rate Thanas won't get to a fourth reich until he is thousands ofHavok wrote: Dude, Fanboy, Thanas is going to start a Fourth Reich just to cleanse the world of you and me if we don't stop fucking with him.
years old.
I wish that would have happened so that "Sixburgh" and "San Fransixco" could be our default response to any and all Joe Flacco comments ever.Havok wrote:After watching the Superbowl and watching the Patriots play and their gameplan, I have no doubt SF would have walked away with #6.
Vaporous wrote:Come, my friends. Drink in the sweet milk of his shame.
So:After a lengthy investigation conducted by the NFL's security department, the league announced Friday that 22 to 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints maintained a "pay for performance" program that included "bounty" payments administered by then-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons.
The program runs in violation of league rules, and the investigation showed that Saints players received $1,500 for a "knockout" hit and $1,000 for a "cart-off" hit with payouts doubling or tripling during the team's three playoff appearances.
A memo sent to clubs throughout the league included a statement on how Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma put up $10,000 cash as a bounty before a playoff game, a source familiar with the memo told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora.
The memo also said Mike Ornstein, a noted marketing agent who has close ties to Saints head coach Sean Payton and has worked with him on projects in the past, put up money as a bounty at least twice.
The program also entailed payments for interceptions and fumble recoveries, which also violates league rules against non-contract bonuses. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will determine the appropriate discipline based on the investigation, the league said in a statement.
"The payments here are particularly troubling because they involved not just payments for 'performance,' but also for injuring opposing players," Goodell said in a statement released by the league. "The bounty rule promotes two key elements of NFL football: player safety and competitive integrity.
"It is our responsibility to protect player safety and the integrity of our game, and this type of conduct will not be tolerated. We have made significant progress in changing the culture with respect to player safety and we are not going to relent. We have more work to do and we will do it."
Goodell said the investigation began in 2010 after allegations were made that the Saints defenders had targeted Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner and Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre during New Orleans' 2009 run to the Super Bowl.
"Our security department interviewed numerous players and other individuals," Goodell said. "At the time, those interviewed denied that any such program existed and the player that made the allegation retracted his earlier assertions. As a result, the allegations could not be proven. We recently received significant and credible new information and the investigation was re-opened during the latter part of the 2011 season."
The investigation found the program was funded primarily by players and at one time might have reached $50,000. The league also said that other defensive coaches in addition to Williams, now the St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator, were aware of the program.
"I want to express my sincere regret and apology to the NFL, (Saints owner Tom) Benson, and the New Orleans Saints fans for my participation in the 'pay for performance' program while I was with the Saints," Williams said in a statement released by the Rams. "It was a terrible mistake, and we knew it was wrong while we were doing it. Instead of getting caught up in it, I should have stopped it. I take full responsibility for my role. I am truly sorry. I have learned a hard lesson and I guarantee that I will never participate in or allow this kind of activity to happen again."
The report found that Payton was aware of the allegations but did not make any inquires and failed to stop the program. The league also said that general manager Mickey Loomis at one time was directed to end the program once Benson was made aware of the league's findings, but he did not carry out Benson's directions.
The memo released to NFL teams also found Loomis and Peyton guilty of "conduct detrimental" to the league, La Canfora reported.
"I have been made aware of the NFL's findings relative to the 'Bounty Rule' and how it relates to our club," Benson said in a statement. "I have offered and the NFL has received our full cooperation in their investigation. While the findings may be troubling, we look forward to putting this behind us and winning more championships in the future for our fans."
The NFL Players Association released a statement in which it promised to look into the NFL's allegations.
"Health and safety is a paramount issue to the NFLPA," the statement said. "The NFLPA was informed of this investigation by the NFL earlier today and will review the information contained in the league's report."
The Saints have gained a reputation in league circles as a dirty team in recent years, and Vikings running back Adrian Peterson said this past season that the Saints targeted his high left ankle sprain.
"I felt like it kind of got overboard," Peterson said at the time. "I got up and kind of got in his face. Thank God I was able to keep my composure."
and of course both are of the Bobby "bodybag" Ryan tree.Elfdart wrote:According to the Washington Post, Williams did the same thing when he was with the Redskins.
I'm not surprised he's back with his old buddy Jeff Fisher, another coach with a fondness for thug tactics (he ordered the harpooning of Shawne Merriman's knee in 2007 -an injury that ruined his career).
Buddy Ryan.Thanas wrote:and of course both are of the Bobby "bodybag" Ryan tree.Elfdart wrote:According to the Washington Post, Williams did the same thing when he was with the Redskins.
I'm not surprised he's back with his old buddy Jeff Fisher, another coach with a fondness for thug tactics (he ordered the harpooning of Shawne Merriman's knee in 2007 -an injury that ruined his career).
He also thinks Williams was responsible for the high-low hit that screwed up Manning's neck.Flagg wrote:Dungy is now claiming that the Titans had a bounty on Manning.
I hope the NFL does more than penalize the Saints. I hope they kick Williams out of the League for a while, if not permanently.Last September, Cindy Boren of the Washington Post wrote an article in which ex-Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy put the start of Peyton Manning's longstanding neck injuries and surgeries at a game between the Colts and the Redskins on October 22, 2006. On one play, Manning was given a "high-low" hit by defensive linemen Andre Carter and Phillip Daniels. Those types of hits, in which two defensive players aim for different halves of an offensive player's body, are among the most dangerous in football.
After the play, Manning lay on the ground for a brief time, got up, and as Dungy told Peter King of SI.com and NBC Sports last September, shook his right arm "as if trying to get the feeling back in it."