NFL 2011

[Thanas]

Thanks Texans #94 for committing two personal fouls back to back at the tex 1 yd line.

[Elfdart]

So what, the NFL cracks down on players getting into scuffles and now the coaches do it?

01:30 – A postgame handshake between an exuberant Jim Harbaugh and disappointed Jim Schwartz ended in a scuffle between the two sides after the 49ers beat the Lions 25-19.

[Thanas]

That's on Harbaugh.

[Thanas]

Man, the texans are regretting not giving leach his worth right about now. He destroyed their MLB.

[Thanas]

Ravens win.

Gotta give credit to the Texans though - tough guys, great pass rush. Nice hug between Mason and Harbaugh at the end.

Good luck to the Texans.

[Havok]

That's on Harbaugh.

No it's not. That's on Scwartz for being butthurt.

[Elfdart]

I'm somewhat impressed with Christian Ponder right now. Granted it's garbage time, but he avoided the rush without going into panic mode and made some nice throws. The Vikings should be thankful for the Dolphins, otherwise they'd be the worst team in pro football.

[Havok]

As for the reason Schwartz was so butthurt.

A 9 game win streak snapped. The first time this season Detroit was held under 20 points. No TDs for Johnson. No running game. No domination from your defensive line, while that vaunted defensive line got ran over and your china doll QB was sacked 5 times. Most importantly, the tie breaker for playoff seeding. Why is that so important? Because the Lions still have to play the Packers twice, and the Bears again at Soldier Field in their division. While the Niners still have the Rams and Cardinals twice in theirs. The Lions are also now behind those Packers in the standings going into those games.

As to why Harbaugh was so pumped after the game.

5-1. 3 Cross country road wins. Sitting on a 3 game lead in the division, the #2 seed in the conference, the next 4 games against the Browns, Redskins, Giants and Cardinals with a bye before that. A team that can now overcome mistakes instead of succumbing to them, a team that has limited the majority of those mistakes, a team that can finish, a team that can run, pass and play defense.

That Baltimore game in 6 weeks is looking SOOOO good. I am also no longer chalking that game up as an automatic loss.

[Thanas]

That's on Harbaugh.

No it's not. That's on Scwartz for being butthurt.

You know I like the guy, but what Harbaugh did was classless.

[The Spartan]

I would describe our loss as "Kubiakesque".

I doubt Johnson will be back that quickly. Our guys who had similar injuries are taking longer than two weeks to heal....

You may be right. I'm only repeating what I hear on the radio where they've been saying that he'd probably be back in about three weeks from when he got hurt.

Which, looking at my calendar, would put him back in the lineup the weekend after next. Whoops. Got the dates mixed up.

[Havok]

That's on Harbaugh.

No it's not. That's on Scwartz for being butthurt.

You know I like the guy, but what Harbaugh did was classless.

So. Even if that is true, it doesn't excuse Schwartz for going to look for a fight. He overreacted and he knows it. And his excuses hold no water as he is notorious for being an obnoxious douche on the sideline.

[Thanas]

Harbaugh started it. Yeah, Schwartz was sore as well, but Harbaugh started it. That is not how a coach is supposed to behave, it is unprofessional and classless. Harbaugh breached etiquette and he should know better.

[Thanas]

Wow. Revis gets away with so much PI and holding it is not funny.

[Elfdart]

So. Even if that is true, it doesn't excuse Schwartz for going to look for a fight. He overreacted and he knows it. And his excuses hold no water as he is notorious for being an obnoxious douche on the sideline.

Why am I not surprised? There's quite a history of douchebaggery from current and former Oilers/Titans coaches.

I remember Chuck Cecil from last year, too. Schwartz should have just filed that one away for future reference next time the Lions play the 49ers. Now he looks like a WATB.

[Elfdart]

Wow. Revis gets away with so much PI and holding it is not funny.

If you're talking about the pick, that's on Marshall for instigating contact and running right into Revis. Oh, and the INT is on Marshall too for running a pass pattern with his head down and not looking back for the ball. If nothing else he should have grappled with Revis to make sure he didn't get the ball.

[Havok]

Harbaugh started it. Yeah, Schwartz was sore as well, but Harbaugh started it. That is not how a coach is supposed to behave, it is unprofessional and classless. Harbaugh breached etiquette and he should know better.

No, Harbaugh did not start it. If Harbaugh breached the etiquette or protocol, that Schwartz seemed to be well aware of, then he should not have acted like an ass in response. Harbaugh was overly excited about a great win. Schwartz was overly butthurt about a bad loss, but Schwartz started the altercation.

[Thanas]

Harbaugh started it. Yeah, Schwartz was sore as well, but Harbaugh started it. That is not how a coach is supposed to behave, it is unprofessional and classless. Harbaugh breached etiquette and he should know better.

No, Harbaugh did not start it. If Harbaugh breached the etiquette or protocol, that Schwartz seemed to be well aware of, then he should not have acted like an ass in response. Harbaugh was overly excited about a great win. Schwartz was overly butthurt about a bad loss, but Schwartz started the altercation.

Oh, so Schwartz slapped Harbaugh condescendingly on the back and cursed at him then?

[Havok]

Ever play football? That is not a condescending slap. That is a good fucking job slap. He also didn't curse at him. He supposedly said "Fuck yeah", but it was after the shake and back slap as he was already moving away from Schwartz. And as I said, if Schwartz new this was such a breach of protocol and gets so insulted when that happens, he should have been the professional and just let it go, instead, HE started the altercation between the two teams and coaches by going up and doing a half asses pussy shoulder shove that he immediately found refuge from behind his players and coaches.

And again, this is a guy that was swearing at an opposing player during a game earlier in the season, not to mention yelling at Harbaugh in a decidedly condescending way, earlier in the game.

This is all Schwartz being a butthurt whiney sore loser at worst, and at best, just not liking his own medicine.

[Havok]

Man, if the Dolphins get the first or second pick, or if they even hint they are trading up to the top spot... Luck is gonna stay in fucking school.

[Flagg]

Ever play football? That is not a condescending slap. That is a good fucking job slap. He also didn't curse at him. He supposedly said "Fuck yeah", but it was after the shake and back slap as he was already moving away from Schwartz. And as I said, if Schwartz new this was such a breach of protocol and gets so insulted when that happens, he should have been the professional and just let it go, instead, HE started the altercation between the two teams and coaches by going up and doing a half asses pussy shoulder shove that he immediately found refuge from behind his players and coaches.

And again, this is a guy that was swearing at an opposing player during a game earlier in the season, not to mention yelling at Harbaugh in a decidedly condescending way, earlier in the game.

This is all Schwartz being a butthurt whiney sore loser at worst, and at best, just not liking his own medicine.

Schwartz definitely came off as a pussaholic to me. Oh noes, I got slapped on the back too hard!

[Master of Ossus]

Oh, so Schwartz slapped Harbaugh condescendingly on the back and cursed at him then?

I don't think that was a condescending slap at all. It's an exuberant one, but he's clearly celebrating and not demeaning his opponent.

As for Schwartz, I know what he said happened, but if you actually watch the replay, Schwartz is the one who swears after what happened. Nolan said something, but Schwartz was the one who yelled the obscenity.

[Havok]

Harbaugh, not Nolan.

[Master of Ossus]

Harbaugh, not Nolan.

D'OH! Yes, obviously.

[Elfdart]

The incident this most reminds me of is when Jerry Glanville and Chuck Noll started bickering after a game because Noll thought Glanville's team was playing dirty with a bunch of late hits. Noll wasn't one for throwing fits in public so he ran up the score against Houston and had his guys give the Oilers a taste of their own medicine next time they played. Sam Wyche of the Bengals did the same thing, running up the score 61-7 -including calling a time out with seconds left in the game to score one last time against "Jerry's Kids".

[Havok]

Harbaugh, not Nolan.

D'OH! Yes, obviously.

It's OK. Smith had his first Nolan Era performance this year. Understandable.